Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #6

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LeeJay55 said:
Or walked outside there are usually a lot of
Pizza huts abd restaurants just out the door

maybe she was out of money?
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I was thinking the same thing about not having money.

I’m curious what she did the entire time BL was back home in Florida. She’s not comfortable driving the van, so did she just stay in the hotel all day? Did he take the van to the airport and leave it there while he was gone?

The sighting on the 25/26 proves that nothing bad happened to her while he was away. He wasn’t back for very long before something did happen to her though.
 
LeeJay55 said:
They worked at Publix in North Port
I think they self diagnosed themselves!
Jmo
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Well, that would be a weird, and unwarranted "confession" to make to police, that they were both bipolar but unmedicated, if they'd never been diagnosed. If your theory is true, it could mean that when police asked BL if he was on meds, saying he was acting "hyper", he may have made up the "bipolar" story to explain his (at that moment) "hyper" state. But he seems to have calmed down pretty quickly, and changed his demanor entirely, to being kind of chummy and jovial with police.

Strange.
 
prblythe said:
Anyone remember the runaway bride?
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Oh yes! Granted there have been many cases of that but specifically the 2005 case that made national news…..that happened in my hometown(small world). I was in high school at the time but I remember it well. The boyfriend/groom owned a local MD practice and it took years for him to retain the reputation of his name back.

Anyways I don’t think that’s whats going on with this case….Gabby being a runway bride…..BUT anything is possible.
 
mlhenn said:
Brian Laundrie's sister downplays fighting with Gabby Petito

Brian Laundrie’s sister says it was “typical” for her brother and his girlfriend Gabby Petito to fight and then take a break from each other.


Asked about the police bodycam footage of officers speaking to a sobbing Petito and Laundrie after they got into a fight in Utah on Aug. 12, Cassie said: “It looked typical of both of them. Whenever they’d fight they’d take a break and be fine.”

Cassie admitted she hadn’t yet spoken to her brother after he returned to Florida in the couple’s van without Petito on Sept 1.
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GP's family can't discuss their relationship, but BL's sister can on GMA?
 
Retired FBI special agent gives insight on disappearance of Gabby Petito - East Idaho News

He has investigated missing people before and says law enforcement has to keep an open mind in their search for Petito.

“Did she walk away? Is she somewhere out there and just doesn’t want to be found or did something bad happen to her?” Montoya tells EastIdahoNews.com. “It seems like there’s a lot of information that they can sift through that may lead to the declaration that her boyfriend (BL) is a suspect or can be charged with a crime.”

Montoya believes police will go through Petito’s 2012 Ford Transit van “with a fine-toothed comb” and scour her social media accounts for any clues as to where she could be. They may also be looking for any connection to a double-homicide that occurred in Moab during the time Petito and Laundrie were in the area.
 
PommyMommy said:
SEP 17, 2021
‘You never know what you’ve got in a photo’: Witnesses sought in Gabby Petito disappearance case | WFLA
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SB said she spotted the couple’s van on Aug. 25 and contacted police.

“It had the black ladder on the back and the two black rooftops on top—the two bars—and we made the comment that would be the perfect little camper van to go around in,” Baker said.

Investigators are hoping more people come forward with information regarding the case.

“You never know what you’ve got in a photo,” said Teton County Sheriff’s Office Sgt. Clayton Platt. “Low and behold there was a van that matches the description of this van in this case. All those little pieces can be pieces in the puzzle to help us figure out where Gabby is.”

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@JudgeJoe, @oviedo - timeline
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2020
MAR 17: IG Post- 1 yr anniversary
JUL 2: GP announced her engagement to BL

2021

JUL 2: Van Life Road Trip Began for Gabby Petito and BL - GP is the owner of the van
JUL 5: The couple stopped at Kansas' Monument Rocks
JUL 8: Their next stop was Colorado Springs
JUL 10: Petito updated her Instagram with photos of her walking at Grand Sand Dunes National Park
JUL 16: Petito’s smiling in a photo from the couple’s next stop at Zion National Park
JUL 20: Petito informed her Instagram followers that they were at Cedar Breaks
JUL 21: The next stop was Bryce Canyon National Park
JUL 26: Petito posted a photo relaxing in hot tub at Mystic Hot Springs
JUL 30: The couple stopped at Canyonlands National Park Mesa Arch
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AUG 10: JF met Gabby and BL near Moab, Utah where they chatted about 40 min. JF and his gf then set off on a hike to the Delicate Arch. When they got back to the parking lot, Gabby and Laundrie were gone.
AUG 12: The couple was at the organic store (Moonflower) from 9am to 3pm according to the police video - they were going to get water and showers - police report incident is at 4pm and the video is over an hour long of this incident. BL is taken to a hotel -Where does Gabby go for the night?

AUG 12: The couple took a hike at Arches National Park - Knowing what we know now about the police incident - was there really a hike on the 12th? if so, when?
AUG 12 Moab, UT PD police incident report - no criminal charges,respond to an incident involving BL and Gabrielle Petito
AUG 12 Arches National Park - reservation only campsite (per PE) - Is this where Gabby stayed in her van/tent?

AUG 13: BF posted an Instagram photo from their next destination in Moab
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AUG 17: BL returns to Florida via airplane to move their things out of storage returns Aug 23

AUG 19: YouTube travel video posted
AUG 21: Gabbys dad orders Uber eats
AUG 21: Gabby told her Dad on FaceTime that they had lost power during a stop in Salt Lake City.
AUG 23: BL returns from Florida trip via airplane (Where was the van parked?)
AUG 24: The couple were seen checking out of a hotel in Salt Lake City, Utah
AUG 25: Petito’s family spoke to her for the last time over the phone and she said she was in Grand Teton National Park
Last phone call between Gabby & her mom, Nicole Schmidt. Last Instagram post from Monarch Wall in Ogden, Utah.
AUG 25 - Couple spots van at 5pm at Jenny Lake - alerts LE 9/17 they saw it (this is new information for the timeline)
AUG 27 - Gabby's uncle posts there was a snapchat Gabby sent a friend -heading to Yellowstone (in Dailymail article)
AUG 27 & 30: text messages from Gabby’s phone sent to mom
After August 30th, Gabby’s parents weren’t able to get in contact with Gabby or her fiance. Her fiance’s mother also was not responding to any phone calls.”
AUG 30: Text from Gabby to Mom - No service in Yosemite
August 31: A new list titled “Self-Consumption” appeared on the couple’s Spotify
SEP 1: BL returns home to FL alone, retains an attorney & is uncooperative with the investigation
SEP 10:: Gabby’s mother texted Brian and his mother, Roberta, trying to get in touch with Gabby, but neither replied The family alerted the National Park Service.
SEP 11: Gabby’s family report her missing 7 PM
Sep 11: Van seized at the home of BL parents in NorthPort FL - FBI
Sep 14: BL family lawyer issues statement
Sept 15: NorthPort police names BL as Person of Interest
Sept 15: Gabby's family issues another statement
Sep 15- Northport police chief asks BL lawyer to assist in finding Gabby
Sep 17 - FBI takes over search in WY (GTNP =Grand Teton National Park)

Note:
September 1: POI BL is in Florida (we don't yet know when he left with her van to drive home to his parents house where he remains)

4 songs were added to the playlist "Mtn tops," on an account Gabby Petito appears to share with her boyfriend Brian Laundrie: Many of the songs, collected on an account she appeared to share with her fiancé, Brian Laundrie, focus on love and heartache.
"Your woman is your angel, is your left side, is your whole life; easily the most beautiful thing in the world," one song, Matt Berry’s "Woman," begins. "She'll soothe you; she'll accuse you; she'll confuse you; she'll lose you but always be the best friend you have in the world."

Another song, "Take My Hand," is about picking up a stranger at a bar. "The Badger’s Wake" is about a badger decomposing underground.

Mother of missing Gabby Petito says boyfriend and his family IGNORED her desperate texts | Daily Mail Online

Missing woman's haunting songs on Spotify account may provide answers

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE No discussion*
 
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NuttMegg said:
Some of the criminal offenses BL could have been charged with, had he not somehow been allowed to deflect most blame to the owner of the vehicle, the non-driver:

Grand theft auto "grand theft auto is to take someone else’s car, without permission and with the intent permanently or significantly to deprive the owner of it. The offense is a type of auto theft. In many states, it can be charged as a felony offense that carries more than a year in prison." Grand Theft Auto - What is The Legal Definition?

"Robbery: 76-6-301. Robbery.
(1) A person commits robbery if:
(a) the person unlawfully and intentionally takes or attempts to take personal property in the possession of another from his person, or immediate presence, against his will, by means of force or fear, and with a purpose or intent to deprive the person permanently or temporarily of the personal property; or..." https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter6/76-6-S301.html

Excessive velocity Utah: "Traffic violations will cost you": "21 to 30 mph over the speed limit for a first offense carries a fine of $90 to $300 plus the surcharge and six points." Penalties For Traffic Violations - Trbovich Law Firm

Penalties for Evading the Police (not specific to Utah)
"A criminal charge of fleeing or evading the police may be either a misdemeanor or felony charge, depending on the circumstances. Generally fleeing the police in a vehicle is a felony charge,"......"Standard felony penalties include:
  • Up to years in state prison;
  • A fine of $10,000;
  • One-year driver’s license suspension; and
  • Impoundment of your car. Evading Police - FindLaw

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    Yet, a woman is threatened with arrest because she physically tried to stop the thief. So, in carjackings is the victim, the owner of the car, usually threatened with prosecution for trying to keep their own vehicle?
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    Note: I could not find the penalties for grabbing a woman's face hard enough to leave marks on her, and to cause her pain an hour or more later. Battery? Assault? both?
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But didn’t Petito herself admit on the bodycam footage that the reason she was hitting him (while driving) was because “he wouldn’t stop telling her to calm down”? Not because he was taking the car or worried he would steal it/abandon her.

And she also admitted that she “may have” touched the steering wheel and tried to get him to pull over because there was cops behind them and she called him an idiot. That would explain the sharp swerve made when they pulled over. Petito caused that too. Maybe.

And Isn’t it possible that he was in a situation where he was in a fight with a manic woman AND trying to drive and you don’t always react to everything happening quickly enough (like cops being behind you).

- I am still very open minded to this case. He could have killed her purposely, by accident, he could have just plainly went home and left her, she could have left him and then disappeared, she could have been kidnapped by the lesbian couple’s murderer, and then there’s aliens. There’s always aliens. I say that half jokingly (see Skywalker Ranch and other NP missing persons reports). -

As always, IMO
 
MsBetsy said:
I think this is the main reason Gabby's parents don't want people focusing on this one incident. It portrays Gabby as the abuser instead of the victim in this case.

She is the one who is missing and Brian is the one who refuses to help LE find her or search for her himself. That alone makes him look guilty.

Portraying her as the abuser is just a distraction and makes him look like the victim.
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Exactly. To blame a victim is to silence the victim. Blame shifting empowers the abuser, who then bullies his way into control, creating sympathy for himself. Brian is attempting to lessen his guilt by putting Gabby on public trial. Just how far will Brian go to lessen the guilt he feels? Is he feeling a need to justify his actions?
 
Cloudydiamond said:
To those that are unaware of the term "Reactive Abuse", cited from the website www.breakthesilencedv.org. below.

I think all law enforcement, courts, attorneys, etc. need a complete overhaul with education and training on DV. Coercive control, emotional abuse, etc. Seems there are way too many cases lately that involve some sort of abuse and not enough education.

"Reactive abuse occurs when the victim reacts to the abuse they are experiencing. The victim may scream, toss out insults, or even lash out physically at the abuser. The abuser then retaliates by telling the victim that they are, in fact, the abuser".
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Gabby Petito showed behavior of victim in Utah bodycam video, domestic violence counselor says
Gabby Petito showed behavior of victim in Utah bodycam video, domestic violence counselor says
 
Alkali13 said:
GP's family can't discuss their relationship, but BL's sister can on GMA?
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FBI can't make GP's family not discuss the relationship - but has asked them not to. FBI may not have made the same request to BL's sister or she may just not be complying.

I wonder about the reason. Are they worried about BL's mental state?
 
Blanche said:
cannot read this as I am in Europe and it is blocked to me.
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"(NBC News) — Witnesses are beginning to provide pieces of the puzzle as investigators search for clues in the disappearance of North Port woman Gabby Petito.

Petito, 22, left New York to embark on a cross-country trip with her fiancé, Brian Laundrie, 23. She last contacted her family around the end of August, when the couple was visiting Wyoming’s Grand Teton National Park.

Cops ‘not ruling out’ potential link between Gabby Petito’s disappearance, Utah couple’s murder

On Thursday, police in Moab, Utah, released body camera video showing officers pull over their van at Arches National Park after a witness reported seeing them arguing and hitting each other. The video shows Petito trying to explain what sparked the argument and Laundrie talk to police. The couple agreed to give each other space and spend the night apart. No arrests were made.

Laundrie returned to their North Port, Florida home without Petito on Sept. 1. He is considered a person of interest in the case, according to police.

Now authorities in Wyoming are searching Grand Teton National Park, the last place she was seen.

Shannon Baker said she spotted the couple’s van on Aug. 25 and contacted police.

“It had the black ladder on the back and the two black rooftops on top—the two bars—and we made the comment that would be the perfect little camper van to go around in,” Baker said.

Polk County teens arrested after taking part in ‘devious lick’ TikTok challenge, sheriff says
Investigators are hoping more people come forward with information regarding the case.

“You never know what you’ve got in a photo,” said Teton County Sheriff’s Office Sgt. Clayton Platt. “Low and behold there was a van that matches the description of this van in this case. All those little pieces can be pieces in the puzzle to help us figure out where Gabby is.”

Multiple agencies, including the FBI, local police and the National Park Service are working together to aid in the investigation."
 
NuttMegg said:
Some of the criminal offenses BL could have been charged with, had he not somehow been allowed to deflect most blame to the owner of the vehicle, the non-driver:

Grand theft auto "grand theft auto is to take someone else’s car, without permission and with the intent permanently or significantly to deprive the owner of it. The offense is a type of auto theft. In many states, it can be charged as a felony offense that carries more than a year in prison." Grand Theft Auto - What is The Legal Definition?
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RSBM
Also, I am using Utah Statutes for controlling law, as we are not sure where GP lost possession of the van.

The above-quoted definition is the standard definition of larceny specifically tailored to auto theft.
Utah Criminal Code § 76-6-412 refers to all forms of larceny as theft; the definition therein states: "A person commits theft if he obtains or exercises unauthorized control over the property of another with a purpose to deprive him thereof." (See: https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter6/76-6-S404.html?v=C76-6-S404_1800010118000101)

The reason, IMO, that BL can't be charged with theft is twofold. First, notice the term "unauthorized" in the definition of theft. LE cannot determine whether BL was given permission to "exercise...control over the property" of GP, namely the van and the contents therein. Thus, element one of theft isn't met. Second, notice the language "...with a purpose to deprive him thereof." This is the equivalent of the standard laid out in the definition you have quoted as "permanently or significantly to deprive the owner of it." And therein lies the problem; LE has no indication that BL wanted to do so. Thus, element two is not met.

IMO, if LE were able to charge BL with such, they certainly would have by now, as they would love any reason to be able to detain and question him.
 
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