Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #60

[Caring4Many]

I agree. ADK would be totally alien territory.

The only thing that might be in that neck of the woods, though a bit further north...Remember that Dannemora prison escape a few years ago in upstate NY? One or both of the fugitives holed up in a vacant cabin. While the hunt for the fugitives was on, it made for dramatic TV coverage. There was the book and the movie...
BL is a copycat and a narcissist. And he fancies himself doing things he could only do in his dreams. I'll bet that fugitive hunt tickled his wannabe fantasies. Perhaps this is what is playing out?

While I do agree, one thing to note-the National Park camp grounds just closed here in 10/10/2021. Sorry, by here I mean in NY. I live about 3-4 hr from ADK, depending location. My husband and I recently went for a hike up there and the amount of people still in the area was crazy. Although I know we have a cabin nearby the NP we visit and they rent it out all through the winter. So it isn’t like it’s closed. But to your point, he would really need to know what is what there, there’s a ton of places, trails, etc but you could easily get lost and end up without supplies if you’re unfamiliar.

 

[housewife]

Whatever...my opinions are being limited at this point by members who find my thoughts on the court of public opinion unsuitable for this venue.

I want to understand your point of view. Previously you asked "what could the parents do (short of shooting him in the leg?) to prevent their adult son from leaving".
Personally, I would call the police on my own kid. Absolutely. Especially if I thought they were in a highly emotional state. People can call the police and request a Crisis Intervention Team for anyone with a mental health crisis. The Laundries could have done this and not admit guilt at the same time.

 

[NCWatcher]

Florida requires proof of residence such as a lease, utility bill, mortgage payment in order to get a Driver's License. I doubt GP paid the Laundries' utility bills and she didn't share their last name.

What to Bring

True. But your link also says things like mail from a financial institution or a W-2 will work. Plus, if GP's father moved to Florida after she did to "keep an eye on her" as another WS post stated, he probably didn't be even live there when she got her license. Finally, I think with the Real ID stuff they probably are pickier about addresses being the place a person lives. That's just JMO, of course.

 

[x_files]

Florida requires proof of residence such as a lease, utility bill, mortgage payment in order to get a Driver's License. I doubt GP paid the Laundries' utility bills and she didn't share their last name.

What to Bring

If you look she could bring mail from her bank account, and car registration, otherwise anyone renting a room in a house would never be allowed to obtain an ID, or Driver's License.

• Florida vehicle registration or title (print a duplicate registration at www.GoRenew.com);
• W-2 form or 1099 form
• Mail from financial institutions including checking, savings or investment account statements;

 

[x_files]

I know that discussion of it having a cryptic meaning was halted. Thankfully. jmo

I think I was the one, that accidentally started it. I feel bad. I was thinking out loud.

 

[cady]

I have gone over and over this in my head the L's must have known the truth, there is no other excuse for them to ignore and avoid GP parents texts and calls unless he blocked the numbers on both parents phones but that is a huge reach and why didn't Cassie answer? If my son came home and had admitted this he would be told you hand yourself in or I will, he would always be my son but I could not hide him.

All I could think of (broken record, here) is that BL gave them a heads-up while traveling east, that he and Gabby broke up and that she flew home to NY and he is driving the van back to FL AND please do not contact her or her family, or answer any calls from her or her family because I want nothing to do with any of them ever again. And tell Cassie the same thing. I'll tell you what happened when I get home. That would keep them quiet, for a while then he could say he didn't want to discuss it or he could tell them some story about what a horrible thing Gabby had done to him. So they would believe him and honor his wishes, and consider G and family former almost daughter-in-law, and her family no longer their friends. That's all I've got, lol. JMO

 

[CharlestonGal]

The internet is going to implode if tomorrow's statement from the coroner changes the manner of death from homicide to something else.

 

[Sachi]

When did he really leave? I know the parents backtracked and said September 13 - but if there are no sightings after the 6th at the campground - as others may have suggested - was that the day he took off? That's one week earlier than the 13th - however, lying to the FBI is a pretty big deal so is the new date because other evidence contrary has now surfaced? And I wonder about the alleged CCTV from the neighbor saying he was seen on the 17th?
Laundrie 'seen running out of his backyard the day parents reported him missing'

Brian Laundrie's Parents Waited Longer To Report Him Missing Than Previously Thought

What about this "September 10th weekend: Karyn Aberts, a neighbor of the Laundries, said the last time she saw Brian at the family home was sometime on the weekend of September 10. Gabby Petito's family reported her missing on Saturday, September 11"

 

[whirrledpeas]

Gabby Petito autopsy: Wyoming coroner to give update Tuesday

“The final autopsy report will likely include Petito's time and cause of death, which may help investigators determine who killed her.”

IMO, toxicology and any other contributing factors will be released and the manner of death will remain homicide.

 

[SandSage]

At your service :
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/off-topic-side-chat.594359/

You're GOOOOOOD!

 

[MyBelle]

True. But your link also says things like mail from a financial institution or a W-2 will work. Plus, if GP's father moved to Florida after she did to "keep an eye on her" as another WS post stated, he probably didn't be even live there when she got her license. Finally, I think with the Real ID stuff they probably are pickier about addresses being the place a person lives. That's just JMO, of course.

We don't know where GP received her mail. We don't know when she got her license. We don't know the addresses listed on the credit/debit accounts that BL is accused of stealing. But I do know her father has made it very clear the van belonged to GP and I'm betting he helped her buy it, insure it, register it. JMO

 

[MyBelle]

If you look she could bring mail from her bank account, and car registration, otherwise anyone renting a room in a house would never be allowed to obtain an ID, or Driver's License.

• Florida vehicle registration or title (print a duplicate registration at www.GoRenew.com);
• W-2 form or 1099 form
• Mail from financial institutions including checking, savings or investment account statements;

A lease would suffice for ID but I've seen no evidence that Gabby rented a room at the Laundrie home.

 

[Keyedin]

Something to keep in mind, despite there being a missing person's report and the month-long search that has produced no evidence (at least released publicly), the FBI still considers BL a fugitive. We've discussed the fact that he's never been treated as a missing person, but I guess it just clicked tonight that the FBI doesn't think he's missing. They think he's running. I know that seems like a "duh" statement, but sometimes you just need a little reminder.

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1447546214883500034?t=7dsV6ihRmKWY69QmBJGOnw&s=19

Edited to fix my spelling errors. You can always tell when I move from a computer to a phone based on number of spelling and grammatical errors made in my posts.

 

[wnk]

Seems weird they didn't visit Ogden on the way to the Tetons, but we know the day Gabby was there was the 23rd, not only from sightings, but also the shops/market are only open on the weekends. The questions have been burning a hole in my brain.

Do you have a source for this? I haven't heard about any other sightings in Ogden, and as a local, I don't know of any shops there that are only open on the weekends, especially during the summer.

 

[rosesfromangels]

The Adirondacks are a very, very different area from Blue Point, Long Island. They’re over 300 miles apart; that’s like comparing Long Beach, CA to Redwoods Nat’l Forest. It would not be familiar territory unless you know of some evidence that BL and his family spent time there.
MOO.

I’m sticking to this amateur opinion and speculation. Time will tell. : )

 

[Jurisprudence]

That makes sense to me.

I do wonder why Brian all of a sudden asked the hitchhikers to stop the van though so he could get out.

I think I can answer this in a MOO fashion.

According to Miranda Baker's account which included maps, it appears that MB and her boyfriend were taking the scenic route to Grand Teton. Once they turned off 191 and headed toward Jackson Dam, BL immediately realized this and knew he needed to get out of the car. MOO.

BL needed to get back to Spread Creek - not Grand Teton. And, for this, he needed them to continue on 191. As a side note, MB and BF could have gotten to their destination by staying on 191, and I believe this is probably what BL expected, but they chose not to. Realizing this, he panicked, got out and told them he was going across the street to the parking lot to hitch another ride. It appears he did just this.

As for why he refused to allow the second hitch hiking witness to take him into the campground and to his van, MOO is that GP was already gone. For nearly 2 days is what I think but not fact (I have felt she was gone on the 27th, after Merry Piglets and that the 29th was an alibi, a shower, discarding evidence, or maybe all of the above MOO). He couldn't have this witness see him return to an empty van and/or risk her parking the car and stepping out. IMOO, BL was always thinking ahead. He was calculated in his moves.

If you look at the attached map, you'll see that once you reach Jackson Lake Dam, you are already on your way to the scenic road. This road would be traveled at a much slower speed and would have placed him very far away from Spread Creek. IMOO, he couldn't have this because he was planning that evening to get out of there and on the road back to Florida. This is and has always been MOO. This is not fact.

Edited to include correct map

Google Maps

 

[Cinna]

Sorry, I get confused on this issue, probably because I’ve spent more time focusing and reading regarding other aspects of the case:

Does this indicate that the Laundries were calling 911 because the Petitos were demanding answers, or did Brian threaten suicide or similar due to that, and that’s the reason 911 was called?

That is a great question. Only LE knows.

 

[SouthAussie]

The internet is going to implode if tomorrow's statement from the coroner changes the manner of death from homicide to something else.

Could be that they will release the details to try to influence/pressure anyone who might be harboring BL.
If someone knew how bad things might have been in a homicide (as opposed to what BL may have told them), they may decide to call in a tip to the FBI "Psst ... BL is here".

 

[meatandcookies]

Just because Gabby currently "lived" with the Laundries doesn't mean it was her legal residence on her driver's license and the van's registration.

The van had to be registered and insured in order to be licensed by the State of Florida. I believe her father added Gabby and the vehicle to HIS insurance. I also believe it likely her driver's license listed her dad's address. She may also have been on his employer health insurance. It would be cheaper than getting vehicle insurance only in her name. We did the same thing for all of our kids because it was less expensive.

BL didn't have to pay for insurance on her vehicle. The van's insurance would cover any licensed driver.

jmo

We know Gabby’s license was issued prior to 3/19/20 because it indicates she was under 21. Do we know when JP moved to Vero Beach?
MOO

 

[lizzied]

Brian Laundrie search: What is a 'person of interest'?

"A person of interest is somebody who may have information pertinent to a crime," Pallegar told Fox News. "They may not rise to the level as a suspect yet, whereas a suspect is a person who…authorities believe committed a crime."
"It's really hard to tell, in this case, why they labeled Laundrie as a person of interest rather than a suspect," Pallegar said. "There could still be … internal evidence that could establish him to be a suspect. However, for public relations reasons, law enforcement don't want to make that public."