Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #68

[Newsjunkiejen]

It's a volatile situation and LE needs to clear the protestors out of there. Can you imagine living in that neighborhood? I'd be livid that LE hasn't hustled them out of there by now. Ridiculous. We have one tragedy already, we don't need another one.

Amateur opinion and speculation

I completely agree.

It seems in some people's eyes, two wrongs DO make a right!

MOO

 

[NCWatcher]

Since NPPD didn't enter the Laundries home to look for GP do you think her parents have grounds for a civil lawsuit against them?

I am very sympathetic to GP's family. And I'm not an attorney. But when the NPPD "failed" to search for her in the Laundries' home, GP had been dead for at least 10 days, and dead 2500 or so miles away. Why should the NPPD be liable? What damage did they cause?

JMO

 

[ce4au]

Random question: was the search warrant for the Laundrie house ever made public?

All I know is it was a federal warrant. & I don’t believe we’ve seen the documents for that. We saw one set of documents but I believe that was for the charge itself. I don’t think we’ve seen the search warrant documents. Which I’m very interested in.

ETA: fixed typo.

 

[Sassafrass]

Since NPPD didn't enter the Laundries home to look for GP do you think her parents have grounds for a civil lawsuit against them?

For what, exactly? She was already dead.

 

[YohanApple]

I have pondered this alot in the past. However, she launched her Nomadic Static site on Aug 19, while BL had already returned to FL. I don't think she would have continued to pursue the blog channel if they were breaking up just MMO.
Gabby Petito case: Timeline of travel blogger's disappearance

I also think she would have told her parents if they were breaking up and he left. IMO

 

[RANCH]

I am very sympathetic to GP's family. And I'm not an attorney. But when the NPPD "failed" to search for her in the Laundries' home, GP had been dead for at least 10 days, and dead 2500 or so miles away. Why should the NPPD be liable? What damage did they cause?

JMO

I'm not sure if there is grounds for GP parents to sue. Looking at it from the other side if NPPD had broken down the Laundries door to look for GP and she wasn't there could they file a civil lawsuit for illegal search and seizure?

 

[RickshawFan]

I actually gave a traveling Circus a thought…disguised as a clown. I have no idea if they are still a thing.

BL doesn't appear to have any talents, though. If you want to join a circus, presumably you've gotta be great at the trapeze, lion tamer, or clown.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Could you imagine paying somebody who acted like that to guide you?

I'd want my money back.

I would too!!
But he is representing the 3 Laundries. So they're in charge of telling him everything he knows and what they want to say. Ultimately, we are all hearing exactly what the family wants us to hear. If they felt he were misrepresenting their position ~ they could easily fire him and get another attorney. He is basically taking his cues from them; saying what they want to say. I can only conclude that they are as cold, heartless, and indecent as he is.

 

[PommyMommy]

Gabby Petito case: A timeline of her disappearance and homicide (winknews.com)
September 11, 2021: Gabby reported missing
Gabby’s mother files a missing person’s report with the Suffolk County, New York, Police Department after not hearing from her since late August.

'Circumstances are odd' police say, after boyfriend of missing woman returns home, hires attorney
The North Port Police Department said they “are actively assisting in this case in conjunction with the Suffolk County Police Department where she was reported missing.

[...]

The Suffolk County Police Department, where her family lives in New York, confirmed they are investigating the disappearance of Petito, who went missing while traveling.

 

[NCWatcher]

I'm not sure if there is grounds for GP parents to sue. Looking at it from the other side if NPPD had broken down the Laundries door to look for GP and she wasn't there could they file a civil lawsuit for illegal search and seizure?

Since I'm not an attorney I won't try to give an answer based on law (but will answer since you quoted me for your question!) I don't see how the police would have had reason to strongly suspect GP was in the house. The presence of the van? Meh, we aren't tied to our motor vehicles. But IF they thought she was there, they also thought she was in imminent danger if they didn't break down the door? Highly unlikely.

JMO

 

[SMK777]

I'm not sure if there is grounds for GP parents to sue. Looking at it from the other side if NPPD had broken down the Laundries door to look for GP and she wasn't there could they file a civil lawsuit for illegal search and seizure?

BBM Yes, they most likely could. Gabby and Brian were not minors, and it wasn’t clear at that point that anything had happened. It all looks different in hindsight, but at the time he may have told his parents she went off with other people, which she would have had the legal right to do. JMO

 

[putnam6]

BL doesn't appear to have any talents, though. If you want to join a circus, presumably you've gotta be great at the trapeze, lion tamer, or clown.

Not sure of a circus but a traveling carnival type thing he might easily get employment from time to time, lots of Fall carnivals here in the southeast

 

[RickshawFan]

I have visions of the FBI, the US Marshalls, DTBH and JW and his crew...surrounding some shack/cabin in the hills. Bellies on the ground, turtle shelled vests securely in place, with Mission Impossible Themed Music playing softly in their ear buds. Waiting patiently, for the anticipated door dash delivery to commence.. A girl can dream, right?

This has been done. Dannemora in upstate NY, and the years long AT adventures trying to locate the Atlanta bomber. The FBI agents' idea of what a thru hiker looks like—standard issue FBI buzz cut, lmao, preppy LLBean get up (creases in the shorts), and lack of ability to consume a whole pizza at one sitting—gave them away. They are legend!

 

[Caring4Many]

bbm
Agreed with your entire post, thanks for clarifying !
Just my opinion : At this time, many people esp. BL's friends and acquaintances must know what we know about this case.
A friend from school days or later will know BL better than any of us will.
Again this is me thinking out loud ... we know so little about BL's past that I wonder if he had issues with other girls/women and they overlooked it or thought he'd grow out of it ?

The main question about BL's past is if there was ever a pattern of being assisted via "damage control", out of difficult situations ?
Not murder, of course.
Imo Gabby's death was not preceded by others.
But domestic violence or threats to anyone ?
And BL was helped and thus the actions were overlooked and no one the wiser ?

So here we are now with a wanted fugitive and no answers.
There are other ideas worth considering but I'd like to hear a bit more from LE.
MOO.

ABSOLUTELY-this is something I’d like to hear more about-but I’m sure that unless there’s a trial, we won’t ever hear about. But much like you, I wouldn’t be shocked to hear that BL had issues with other women-whether gfs, CaL or other women he was exposed to that didn’t act as he wanted. Which IMO would result in CYA by either covering up or making excuses for his behavior, to BL and others as to why he didn’t do anything wrong.

EDited to remove quote that didn’t disappear after previous posting.

 

[CLGM]

All I know is it was a federal warrant. & I don’t believe we’ve seen the documents for that. We saw one set of documents but I believe that was for the charge itself. I don’t think we’ve seen the search warrant documents. Which I’m very interested in.

ETA: fixed typo.

The search warrant for the hard drive found in the van was public, also.

 

[PayrollNerd]

I have wondered if BL told his parents a filtered version of the truth right before he left to go hiking/hiding. But then threatened them with bodily harm if they breathed a word to anyone. It would explain why the sister has been mostly left in the dark. It could explain why they were already prepared with their real estate attorney acting on their behalf. They likely know their son will have a public defender. No need to exhaust funds on another separate attorney.

Truly I think they’re protecting themselves, their business interests and properties first and foremost. Maybe BL did threaten them, that’s why they’re not making a public plea to him. Maybe they’re afraid. Maybe they’ve always known his volatility and are worried he will come out swinging so to speak. JMO

 

[RickshawFan]

I've watched every season of Alone and I've thought a lot about BL in that context. I don't think he has either the mental fortitude or the physical survival skills to last more than 2-3 weeks in a total "Alone" situation. The participants on Alone have families, friends, entire towns cheering them on and supporting them. They prepared for months, sometimes years, just for this experience. They have thought about exactly what tools and supplies to bring with them. They have a medical team that checks on them periodically, providing some level of human contact. They also know there is an end point. They just have to last longer than everyone else. And they still struggle mightily.

BL has none of that. He's a guy who drives around in a van from one place to another and hikes on marked trails. Has a steady supply of water and food he does not have to procure for himself. He uses $ for that. He doesn't have to build a shelter that withstands the worst of the weather. He just crawls into a cozy van. He has no experience whatsoever surviving alone in the wilderness.

Great show. If you like a side of drama with your survival show binge, Naked and Afraid is pretty good, too. imo

Alone guys have camera crews, medical teams..... All smoke and mirrors.
BL runs home to momma. He likes restaurant meals while camping, even though money is tight. I'll bet he watched episodes of the Dannemora escape and got some wannabe ideas from there.

 

[dacjess]

There's protest and then there's trespass, intimidation and breach of the peace. Should the neighbours of the Laundries be subjected to that?

I’m sure that LE can determine the difference and if it crosses that line, they will act. Beyond that, I can’t comment on it. It’s also a situation that the Laundries have the ability to control in a way and have chosen not to so I don’t know why we’re advocating for them. They’ve shown their lawyer is capable of releasing statements. If they have something to say about the people outside their house, I’m sure they could do so.
JMO.

 

[LietKynes]

I will always support the right to peacefully protest on public streets. I do not support trespassing on someone's private property to leave things with the sole purpose of intimidation or harassment, something I believe is happening at the Laundrie home today. IMO, those trespassing simply want attention and have become part of the problem, not the solution. And I have marched and protested in my time, including outside the home of someone ultimately found guilty of very serious crimes.

MOO.

ETA: I have faith that local LE will act accordingly.

I appreciate your thoughtful and balanced viewpoint ! ^^^
Re. the bolded : Thank you for adding that you've protested peacefully and without harassing anyone.

This case has drawn out some local 'activists' as well as some media ; but there are far better ways of finding Brian and procuring justice -- if he is the killer of Gabby.
At this time he's being charged with theft, but I'm thinking LE have their eyes on him and aren't looking for a fellow camper or a random passerby in that area, as their suspect ?
Trespassing and leaving items aren't wise decisions.
Speaking one's mind peacefully from the sidewalk is allowed.
That might not be what was going on today, though ?

The Laundries' can bring legal action against the locals if they wish for trespassing and littering, but as the days pass one would think they'll (protesters) tire of this and leave.
Let LE do their job !

It's understandable that people are emotionally invested and angry about what happened to Gabby and like another wise poster put it, (paraphrased) "...left her to rot out in the elements ...".
And not even the decency to answer her parent's calls.

Then you have people who want their five minutes and that's unnecessary and tacky.


What about proactive efforts ?
Everyone is looking for Brian.

Increase the reward.
Plaster flyers with his face and various hair or weight differences added -- everywhere.
And not just flyers posted in FL, but also in NY where he used to reside, in case he has headed back there ?
Where else might he feel comfortable hiding out ?
Publicize his face in the media and on billboards.
If this case drags on, maybe add an age progression ?
Hopefully it won't grow cold as Gabby's family deserve answers.
Imo.

 

[dacjess]

I would too!!
But he is representing the 3 Laundries. So they're in charge of telling him everything he knows and what they want to say. Ultimately, we are all hearing exactly what the family wants us to hear. If they felt he were misrepresenting their position ~ they could easily fire him and get another attorney. He is basically taking his cues from them; saying what they want to say. I can only conclude that they are as cold, heartless, and indecent as he is.

Took the reply right out of my mouth! Well said