Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #3

[LeeJay55]

I would assume the hotel wifi was out while power was out. Not sure why she couldn't have used her cell phone data connection to order the food (in my experience cell towers have a decent battery backup so they can stay on for at least a few hours when the electric grid is down, although I don't recall how long this outage lasted)

MOO

Usually there are a lot of. Restaurants around these hotels to walk.out and get.food yourself!

Was she outnof.$$$$$

 

[Deleted member 121463]

Ok - another thought. If he were able to fly back to FL to move her things, why drive the van back at all? Why not leave the van in Utah or wherever and just fly back to FL again? The driving back to FL is so bizarre to me. (Just my opinion and speculation)

You may be onto something here.

 

[Seattle1]

Is this why North Port Police are taking the lead along with FBI?
https://twitter.com/NPPDPoliceChief/status/1438242034775732236?s=20

The NPPD announced today that since both the victim and POI reside in Florida, they were now taking the lead-- together with the FBI and Suffolk County, NY assisting them as needed. I believe their announcement confirms that they do not believe that Gabby is missing voluntarily.

 

[Breezie]

I guess some of us are not the only ones wondering about the UT double homicide possible connection. In my mind. BL harmed GP. So really just wondering if BL is also the creeper. The overlap of time & place sure does raise one’s eyebrows.

LE has not ruled out a connection.
Utah investigators 'not ruling anything out' in double homicide near missing Gabby Petito incident

If there is a connection, it is more likely that the creeper came upon Gabby, when she was alone, then BL being the creeper. The domestic incident report could work for or against him. It raised the possibility that BL might try and avoid conflict by driving away from Gabby for awhile.

 

[esayer]

Responding to an older post from thread #2, and still playing catch-up, so there could be news now that completely shatters any hypothetical here:





Very valid points, and I am not at all trying to defend the hypothetical actions of BL here, but if she by chance was having a full-blown mental health episode (per the LE report, she was at minimum sobbing uncontrollably, unable to compose herself, and admitted to mental health issues prior), she was in no appropriate state to be in control of the car.



That is not to say she should be the one talking a walk, amidst a potential crisis no less, especially when the van is very much hers. Absolutely not right either. But it would seem to me in that scenario that BL could see her as less risk to herself and others not trying to operate a vehicle in an extremely agitated state. We know from the conclusion of the LE incident report that, in the end, Brian ended up in a hotel room and Gabby did retain her van. To me, I don't think dominance has something to do with it as much as a complex situation we can't fully grasp without video or more details.



I find it interesting that this LE incident happened on 8/12 and none of Gabby's Instagram posts thereafter were in her voice or style. Whether this is an attempt by BL to cover up a crime? Who knows. This has been speculated time and time again but there's no way to know. Very possible. I will say my loved one is an artistic type too who had a social media presence at the time of her battle, and I had to step in and revise several posts she made during a manic state that would have led to chaos in the form of an outpour of concern and a risk to future job prospects and friendships. Whether GP was making those posts in a different state of mind, whether she made posts that were later revised and “sanitzed” so to speak by BL, it could be any of those and more. Furthermore, in addition to the questionable voice in the captions, none of the photos on Gabby’s personal IG page after the LE incident look fresh or in any way remarkable. They look like rehashed, low effort photos that could have been taken any time (and in the case of the Halloween one, almost certainly was taken at a far earlier time.) They look like something you’d pick just to say you posted something and wanted to look active. The second to last photo that shows skin and looks like just them lazing out in the van, looks like a screw-around photo that was never originally intended to be posted but “made due.” I have seen these type of shortcuts taken by friends active on social media who felt the need to post to simply maintain their activity on the platform, protect what they were trying to build on it, and look happy, while privately battling heavy emotional situations that zapped their desire to create fresh or exciting material.



And on Brian’s page, unless I’m mistaken here, she never appears in a photo after that 8/12 incident date, and it’s questionable whether she even participated in taking all those photos that featured just Brian.



As for the video posted to YouTube on 8/19, that could all be older footage that was edited and simply released into the world on that date, right?



If all the contact GP was able to make with family was a phone call (or Facetime?) on 8/25, I don’t feel that is enough to properly gauge someones true emotional (or physical) state. Any flowery and overly excited language could be chalked up to a kid having the time of their life, and any downer tone could be chalked up to an exhausted and well-traveled person who needs their rest. Expectations of contacting family are already low in these circumstances, and it’s not hard to put on a facade for a few minute phone call. Throw in some convenient “power outages,” lack of service, etc, and these would no doubt be excuses I would fall back on if I was trying to avoid family contact in the case I was in any way dejected, exhausted, or otherwise in an altered mental state. Though, to be clear, I am not at all dismissing the legitimacy of those things. I just don’t think that all is revealing enough, for those reasons.



I really wonder more about the Uber eats delivery sequence - the chain of events, what a driver may have seen, etc. Not to say there is anything there, but it makes me scratch my head.



It's tough and frustrating because everything could go 900 different ways. Everybody has their own take influenced by their experiences, and this one is merely mine.

The Monarch post though was the 25th and she was seen in SLC the 24th. I agree, seems the 12th was the actual end and everything is fishy after.

 

[Trebor5591]

If he drove the van that was registered to her (hence she was the owner) back to Florida alone, would that not appear to be theft of a vehicle? That part is really sticking with me. What gives him the right to take her mode of transport? Even is she was acting violent (big if here), I still can’t square him taking her property and then taking it thousands of miles away from where she was last seen. Curious what others think specific to him taking possession of the truck. (all just my opinion and speculation)

Agree 100%. However because there is no arrest relate to the purported theft of her vehicle, there has to be data the police have that the public does not have, that indicated it was not theft.

 

[RIPRM]

Family's statement says: "Brian left Gabby in the wilderness with grizzly bears and wolves..."

Did I miss something? If they don't know where she is how can say so? Or does that indicate they know more than they are saying?

source:
Where Is Gabby? Fla. Cops Say Fiancé of Missing NY Woman Refuses to Talk, Is Person Of Interest

 

[Deleted member 121463]

This reported behavior by GP is actually normal for a person who is being continually mistreated in a dysfunctional relationship. MOO
LE report says GP couldn't stop crying and not completing sentences all during his interview with her wipe her face and he thought she might be her mental issues.

very true.

 

[wary]

Agree 100%. However because there is no arrest relate to the purported theft of her vehicle, there has to be data the police have that the public does not have, that indicated it was not theft.

More likely, LE just isn’t bothering. They have something more important they’re going after.

 

[Trebor5591]

Why can't LE search Gabby's room in FL. That is her place of residence. She was traveling, but that was her residence at the time she went missing. A warrant should not be difficult? Or, am I missing something?

We are all missing a lot I believe. I wish LE would hold a press conference regarding this matter.

 

[LauraAnne]

Ok - another thought. If he were able to fly back to FL to move her things, why drive the van back at all? Why not leave the van in Utah or wherever and just fly back to FL again? The driving back to FL is so bizarre to me. (Just my opinion and speculation)

That's an interesting question, but the weirdest thing to me about all this is he arrived back in Florida with no apparent story to tell about what happened to Gabby. That's the weirdest thing. Did he think he wouldn't have to account to anyone for why she wasn't with him?

 

[oviedo]

The Monarch post though was the 25th and she was seen in SLC the 24th. I agree, seems the 12th was the actual end and everything is fishy after.

The hotel should have video of the check out - if it wasn’t recorded over by the time she finally was reported missing - maybe that was part of the plan?
JMO
Somehow I feel the 24th and 25th are important

 

[Timfaxwithin]

I hope BL is put in custody quickly.
I fear he might harm himself.

I heard mention if another couples deaths in Moab around the same time could there be a connection?

They reported seeing a creepy guys sculking around before being shot.

 

[Speculaytor]

OK, I keep seeing the talk that GP and BL stayed in a hotel, or Gabby stayed in a hotel one night. Was that in Moab when officers told them to separate for the night, or was there another last sighting of BL AND GP coming out of a hotel together? And if so, what hotel, and where? Thank you if anyone knows!

 

[iamnotagolem]

I can't imagine why anyone would do that - out there in Utah/Wyoming, the possibilities are virtually limitless for where to bury a body, where no one would even come upon you while you're doing it.

I don’t disagree. I just don’t think it was a planned murder. So if they fought and he killed her. Or they fought and she tried to stop him and he hit her with the van he may have panicked and put her inside or called his parents and they told him to bring the body there.

Personally, I’d leave the body in WY or UT because it’s less risky. But he’s also not familiar with WY or UT so maybe he took her elsewhere.

 

[Elhe]

I think a lot of us here are surprised with the outcome of that interaction with police? By obtaining a hotel room for Brian, the officer was leaving her alone in a van at the entrance of the park? Did he ascertain that she had a campsite she was going to? Considering what he said about the state she was in, I'm surprised he took Brian away and left her there alone.

The van was under her name, Brian was considered the victim, and she was scared he'd leave her in Moab, it seems like they did the right thing for both parties. It didn't state whether they made sure she had a campsite but I would hope so.

 

[Seattle1]

Moab has a population a little above 5000, for the record. That definitely makes it strange to have a double murder, AND a very perplexing mystery happen so close together.

It's a very sad story for these women and their families and friends. For some reason, LE fell behind here and a private party located the women.

WY - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #3

 

[Speculaytor]

The NPPD announced today that since both the victim and POI reside in Florida, they were now taking the lead-- together with the FBI and Suffolk County, NY assisting them as needed. I believe their announcement confirms that they do not believe that Gabby is missing voluntarily.

Total no-brainer. Thankful NOT to hear "there is no evidence of foul play at this time"

 

[Alkali13]

The original post about this showed the plane's tail # as N23NW. Flight Aware history shows a similar flight pattern back on Sept 4th which is before GP was reported missing. I doubt it has anything to do with her.


History ✈ N23NW - FlightAware

Meanwhile, unless I am mistaken, the other plane only started S&R looking patterns in that area after GP went missing?

History ✈ N59906 - FlightAware

 

[carbuff]

reply to WY - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #2 in the previous thread

"There is one road off Rockefeller Pky by which they could leave GTNP heading to YNP and not show up in Yellowstone: Grassy Lake Rd aka Flagg -Ashton Road. It runs from Headwaters/Flagg Ranch to Ashton, ID. It is only open in summer.
Any other routes they would have to go all the way around to get to YNP, either the east way which would be up and over the Togwotee Pass through Dubois to either Cody or Silver Gate/Cooke City or up the west way over the Teton Pass to Idaho to West Yellowstone."

Well, where they were, they'd just have to go up US191 into Yellowstone. They'd reach the main circle route at West Thumb on Yellowstone Lake. No need to go around.

I suppose Flagg Ranch road is a possibility, but while it brushes what is officially Yellowstone National Park land along the southern border, it doesn't connect to any roads that take you to any of the main parts of the park. It would be possible if they were planning on back country hiking. Here's a photo from where Google stopped doing street view: Google Maps Pretty good shape for a Montana/Idaho/Wyoming dirt road, but if you're not used to driving on that kind of terrain, it can be difficult, especially in a low-clearance vehicle like the Transit.

On the other hand, it would be a great place to dispose of a body or evidence, if that was your inclination.