2008.09.18 Tracy M Interview Audio #1

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I hope that Tracy has managed to reflect and to eliminate her stupid-azzed giggle. If so, specifically if she has managed to find her brain to reflect, she will likely become a strong witness for the prosecution. I sincerely hope that the rumors that she has contributed to KC's comm. account are untrue. If not, then I think Tracey is as stupid as stupid does.

MOO
 
I totally understand Tricia's POV. She has worked very hard to build a reputation and when someone makes a derogatory comment, it feels very personal. We have all heard about the WS threads that were printed out by someone in the A household. We all know that the site has been "staked out" by people on BOTH sides of this case, and we all know that posters on this site are bright and talented. While I would take offense to Tracy's comments if this were my site, I also recognize that WS was likely a "topic of conversation" in the A home and that Tracy may have overheard comments made. While WS is reputable and the posters legitimate, I think we can all agree that there have been some people who have posted here with ulterior motives. There are a number of sites that have active threads regarding KCA. Most of those other sites don't moderate to the extent this one does. If Tracy didn't visit this site, how would she really know that WS is different. It seems that while she was very focused during her interview and made every effort to stay neutral she may have rubbed people the wrong way. In listening to her interview, I got the feeling that she wasnted to do her best to state facts, give opinion when asked, and not "pick sides". A good witness appeals to both sides, thus not appearing biased. She is the only person that KC "opened up" to and while we are all disgusted by KC's actions and attitude, she formed a bond with Tracy. It may do the case some good down the road to have someone that KC feels close to. It may make no difference. I respect WS and what Tricia has worked so hard to create. I won't allow Tracy's comments to bother me because I have to believe that she wasn't entirely familiar with our protocol. If she "kept in touch" with KC, I can only assume that down the road, it may make a difference. KC shut everyone out. She however chose to bond with Tracy. Perhaps one day she may actually "spill it" to someone she trusts. I always remember the saying, "Keep your friends close, and enemies closer." Food for thought.
 
Okay, I have my possible theory....

Just spent a few minutes going back to the beginning when the only "player" of this foursome actually joined WS and participated. ( I LOVE the search engine!).

Interesting enough, Tony joined and made his first post on Aug 17th last year BEFORE any of the four even boarded a plane to try to bail KC out (his words...states they have not left for Orlando yet). He continually stated that LP was contacted to get involved and that they did NOT notify the media that they were coming to bail KC out, but a poster clipped a news article with a copy of the email they sent out to the media, saying "What about this?" He never replied. (tie in audio from Tracy about why they got involved in the first place)
On this same early morning, he posted at 1:52 am that he did NOT want any media attention "with the exception of the two tv interviews with Fox News." Just 15 minutes later (2:07 am) he stated he "had not been on TV (about this case) WHATSOEVER" He also complained about how terrible he was treated by the interviewer.

Tricia, sorry to say this, but even back on the first day of his postings, he was voicing his displeasure at this forum and the "BS and lies" and "opinions" of some of those on this forum. For the record, it is because of YOU and the MODERATORS here that I choose to only participate on this forum online! (And I will be happy to buy a t-shirt...size medium, please?)

Back to my theory....not going to keep typing "he said..." "he said..." anyone can pull it up and read for themselves, but what I think is going on is that for whatever reason (plan) that these four got involved in the first place, they have altered the "plan" along the way to keep whatever "gain" they are seeking active.

I think perhaps that LP, TP, and Tracy (have seen nothing about Rob so can't include him) are working in conjunction with Baez and Co to gauge public opinion (for possible change of venue motion?). I think that LP is good in front of the camera, but from what I read, Tony is not a very self confident person, especially in front of a camera with an interviewer and finds it much easier to pose questions and solicit thoughts/ideas/etc through a computer keyboard where he has some time to think about how he is going to reply, and edit it if necessary. We certainly have made it easy for him, even giving him his own "questions for..." forum.
I think this has been going on from almost the beginning of their arrival in Orlando and that Baez has gotten quite a lot of "jury consultation" information in which to try to create a defense from nothing.

I think Tracy is garnering information for Baez about the thoughts and feelings of the Anthonys (KC included) which explains her letters to KC and $$ and emails to Cindy.

(I think) TP is using the internet to gather "public opinion" as well as our thoughts of possible defenses and why they won't work, and then passing it on to.......

(I think) LP is the direct contact (on a daily basis remember?) to Baez and his team directly.

I think Rob may have jumped ship when the poop got too deep. Even his interview with LE seemed very short compared to Tracy's, and he *seemed* like the only genuine "nice guy" of the bunch. But who knows?

There...finally got it out. Hope it didn't sound snippy as that is not how it is intended!Now to try to speculate what they will gain for this involvement??? HMMMM......
Kent I really think you are on to something here. What the final outcome of all this will be I have no idea, but it's for sure some things have changed. While I still appreciate the info that was obtained from the interviews those interviews took place a while back. Since then the tables have turned.
 
Tracy says her signature wasn't notarized. But when JB turned the contracts into the court, her sig was notarized.

That is the main point that I noticed also in Tracy's interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understood Tracy to say that Baez had the "agreement" at the Anthony's home and that is where Tracy said she signed "just a piece of paper ... it was NOT notarized".

Sooooo, how did Baez present a copy of a document with Tracy's signature with a very clear NOTARY seal under Tracy's signature?????

And .... does anyone know why there is not a Tony Padilla interview audio released, along with the Leonard, Rob, and Tracy interviews?


http://www.wftv.com/video/20726607/index.html
clip from Tracy's interview
(5:28) Was there any sort of contractual agreement between you and Jose Baez?
Well, he had me sign something that I couldn’t take recordings or do
anything, which I hadn’t, but he had me sign something, then he changed all
the rules, so it kinda made the little contract null and void, it didn’t ....
Do you have a copy of that contract? No, it was not notar---- it was a
piece of paper.
What else was some of the conditions?
I think the recording was the only thing I remember ... video or recording.
And he did ask me, he said OK if your’re gonna be around her, if she starts
to tell you anything, will you please call me? And I said OK (but I wouldn’t...)
 
I'm sorry but I still see no reason why any of these people need to testify. I believe there will be enough evidence just from KC and her family ( other then flapping their own lips that everyone has seen ) to convict KC. I tend to think these people are as nutty as the Anthony's.

There was never any reason for them to be there in the first place, at least not for Caylee. IMO
 
It is weird, especially after hearing their police interviews laying it out about Casey, her family and Jose. Now we hear Leonard's talking to Jose everyday, Tracy communicates, sends money to Casey in jail..? Tony comes on and doesn't seem to have a clue that any of this is going on although they are close enough to work together and even spent yesterday listening to the recently released interviews together...Tracy hates WS and the people on it...quite a bold statement and very specific to THIS forum and these members.

And it isn't really all about Tracy not liking WS...to me it's more about her continued connect with Casey and Leonards connect to Jose. The other thing is where does Tony fit into all of this with his appearances on WS ? I hate to jump to conclusions, but there was alot of pro Anthony talk by Tony and this is a forum where his views have been put out there...are there any time connections with his appearances and the doc dumps in the case ? Just wondering...

I gave you a "thanks" but that just couldn't express how I TOTALLY AGREE with you ... everything you said is EXACTLY what I have been thinking. You just expressed it better than I could.
 
There was never any reason for them to be there in the first place, at least not for Caylee. IMO

And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? Wasn't LP telling the media she was a bounty hunter? Maybe she has some training or licensing somewhere I haven't heard of, but you'd think she'd state it in her interview with LE.

While I appreciate Tracy's insight into the A family dynamics I'm having a hard time seeing where anything she learned can be admissible or useful at trail. Maybe a legal eagle can show me different.
 
Look....here's the way I see it...while I haven't listened to LP's audio interviews, I am most sure that they only reiterate everything he has spouted on TV from day 1 (hate that phrase). I did listen to Tracey's audio. I think she was honest with LE. I guess LP was as honest with LE as he can be :). TP is the ONLY questionable part of this equation here. All of the conflicting statements, inside info, etc. has come from him here on WS. Something stinks with him.
 
WHAT????!!!:eek::eek::confused:

Ok, trying to find where the info was posted and so far only finding a different post where a poster could have been sarcastic in saying that. Can someone help me out so I can determine whether my foot is in my mouth or not? lol.
 
Ok, trying to find where the info was posted and so far only finding a different post where a poster could have been sarcastic in saying that. Can someone help me out so I can determine whether my foot is in my mouth or not? lol.

No, you are right. There were two places ~ the first was only a speculation from a poster. The second was a firmer confirmation. I'll be looking, too.
 
Completely off the wall, but for those of you who have that amazing recall memory of details going back to the beginning of this case...

Did LP ever have any dealings with Todd Black or Larry Garrison???

EDIT TO ADD:

May have answered my own question.....


http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2008/09/leonard-padilla-larry-garrison-three.html

Snipped:
NGC dumped Padilla and his Bounty Hunters show on cable TV, they are distancing themselves from Mr. Padilla as fast as they can, so who financed Leonard Padilla's trip to Florida and his involvement in the Casey Anthony 3 ring circus ?....... Larry Garrison of Silver Creek entertainment sure is a likely candidate as he set up shop in the Anthony home prior to Casey Anthony's release. Was this all over getting Casey Anthony interviews for a TV Movie after Casey bailed out of jail by the Padilla's ?
 
Completely off the wall, but for those of you who have that amazing recall memory of details going back to the beginning of this case...

Did LP ever have any dealings with Todd Black or Larry Garrison???

EDIT TO ADD:

May have answered my own question.....


http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2008/09/leonard-padilla-larry-garrison-three.html

Snipped:
NGC dumped Padilla and his Bounty Hunters show on cable TV, they are distancing themselves from Mr. Padilla as fast as they can, so who financed Leonard Padilla's trip to Florida and his involvement in the Casey Anthony 3 ring circus ?....... Larry Garrison of Silver Creek entertainment sure is a likely candidate as he set up shop in the Anthony home prior to Casey Anthony's release. Was this all over getting Casey Anthony interviews for a TV Movie after Casey bailed out of jail by the Padilla's ?

Kent, thanks for all your research. The link you supplied has some very interesting information.
 
Completely off the wall, but for those of you who have that amazing recall memory of details going back to the beginning of this case...

Did LP ever have any dealings with Todd Black or Larry Garrison???

EDIT TO ADD:

May have answered my own question.....


http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2008/09/leonard-padilla-larry-garrison-three.html

Snipped:
NGC dumped Padilla and his Bounty Hunters show on cable TV, they are distancing themselves from Mr. Padilla as fast as they can, so who financed Leonard Padilla's trip to Florida and his involvement in the Casey Anthony 3 ring circus ?....... Larry Garrison of Silver Creek entertainment sure is a likely candidate as he set up shop in the Anthony home prior to Casey Anthony's release. Was this all over getting Casey Anthony interviews for a TV Movie after Casey bailed out of jail by the Padilla's ?

This is VERY troubling! Along with the report from Tony Padilla that Leonard talks to Baez almost daily. And Baez said in the Hearing on the 21st that he has been talking to Leonard regularly (and therefore the Padilla crew was noticed on his Motion - they said they never received proper notice). Really really really gives me an uneasy feeling about the media connection!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88554&page=14
Originally Posted by babiesstolemydingo Why is LP in daily contact with Baez?

Tony Padilla: I have no idea but I wonder about that as well. It cant be good. I dont understand how you can talk civil to a person that bad mouths you every chance he gets


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88554&page=12
Tony Padilla: I have no idea. I will share this with you though. Leonard talks regularly with Baez. Almost daily. Supposedly one of the attorneys and an investigator flew to Sacramento over the weekend and met with Leonard.
 
Completely off the wall, but for those of you who have that amazing recall memory of details going back to the beginning of this case...

Did LP ever have any dealings with Todd Black or Larry Garrison???

EDIT TO ADD:

May have answered my own question.....


http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2008/09/leonard-padilla-larry-garrison-three.html

Snipped:
NGC dumped Padilla and his Bounty Hunters show on cable TV, they are distancing themselves from Mr. Padilla as fast as they can, so who financed Leonard Padilla's trip to Florida and his involvement in the Casey Anthony 3 ring circus ?....... Larry Garrison of Silver Creek entertainment sure is a likely candidate as he set up shop in the Anthony home prior to Casey Anthony's release. Was this all over getting Casey Anthony interviews for a TV Movie after Casey bailed out of jail by the Padilla's ?

Just finished reading this link. Wow, I found it very, very confusing. Bill W seems to be saying that Leonard was not the one who paid the bond. Am I reading this right? If so, then who is telling the lie . . . and why?
 
Just finished reading this link. Wow, I found it very, very confusing. Bill W seems to be saying that Leonard was not the one who paid the bond. Am I reading this right? If so, then who is telling the lie . . . and why?

My thinking is that Larry Garrison "fronted" the money to Padilla (as a "loan" per se) as he was trying to keep very low key (I will explain shortly).

I think I have it all tied in, but still need to type it all up and pull up all the links to the news articles for quoting purposes, but I think I have this all figured out (plausible theory) and it does begin with Larry Garrison and will tie up a lot of the questions we have had from the beginning. Will get it posted as soon as all the links are in order.
 
WHAT????!!!:eek::eek::confused:

I just want to commend you on your wonderful sleuthing and being able to put your findings in a manner that people won't take offense. So far I agree with every opinion that you have had. Even though I was accused of being a racist earlier in this thread, what you have brought to the table is what I was trying to point out about things just not making sense. Something doesn't pass the smell test. Anything that I can do to help in our quest to gain some insight of this mess I would be happy to help just send me in some direction. Again thanks for all the info.:blowkiss:
 
And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? Wasn't LP telling the media she was a bounty hunter? Maybe she has some training or licensing somewhere I haven't heard of, but you'd think she'd state it in her interview with LE.

While I appreciate Tracy's insight into the A family dynamics I'm having a hard time seeing where anything she learned can be admissible or useful at trail. Maybe a legal eagle can show me different.

It would be admissible and useful to show that the suspect was not in any way upset or sad or beside herself with worry or refusing to eat or sleep or talking about finding her daughter while out on bond.
 
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