2008.09.18 Tracy M Interview Audio #1

[cleo612]

I really think you need to take step back and see this from tracy's perspective. In no way does Tracy agree with what Casey did. She ws with her for a while and they shared some valuable thoughts. I think it's entirely different when you're personally involved. I am not trying to make excuses but that's how I think Tracy feels. I have been bashed here for having feelings for the Anthony's. They have been very courteous to me. I really like them as people. I don't agree with everything they did but my interaction with them was very pleasant. I still talk to them on occasion. And I will probably continue that.

I guess we should be really thankful that Tracy is not a male or we might be seeing a jailhouse wedding sometime down the road. (Sarcasm intended)

See this from Tracy's perspective? Okay, I'll try.

Tracy was sent into that house to "babysit" Casey. She was not sent in there to become BFF with her.

Tracy knew at that time what the suspicions were against Casey, and it wasn't long after Tracy arrived that the information about the decomposition in the trunk became news.

Tracy knew that the likely conclusion to draw from that piece of news would be that little Caylee was dead and Casey was already at that point pointing fingers at everyone else--yet she showed no concern that little Caylee might be dead, only that SHE didn't do it.

Tracy was only in that house for eight DAYS--not eight MONTHS or even eight YEARS. It is not like there was enough time for Tracy to become a victim of Stockholm Syndrome in such a short amount of time.

For Tracy to carry on a long distance relationship with Casey for almost a year, not to mention the fact that she was sending Casey money for her commissary account, is truly bizarre.

You know, honestly, if I had a friend, and especially an employee, who "felt a connection" in just eight short days to such a diabolical, evil, conniving, and manipulative person such as Casey Marie Anthony, I would really be questioning the mindset of that friend and/or employee.

In fact, it would scare the bejesus out of me.

 

[trafficsUP66]

Scweh! Lord have mercy on us...but, here goes, it is not evil men whom we should fear most, but the indifference of GOOD men...have you ever heard that one? I actually heard it in a movie once but it stuck with me all through the years because it is the truth.

I will tell you a story to put this in perspective. I know a girl whose mother is a sociopath. This girl has siblings. This mother abused this girl horribly and hideously and yet supported and enabled the "other" siblings, whom, I might add were living none too savoury lives...The girl asked her brother one day how he could just look over everything that their mother did to HER and simply continue on engaging in a relationship with her as he did? His response, she's good to me...She pays my bills. She brings me food. She does my laundry...etc...So the girl says but you KNOW how much she abuses and hurts and neglects ME, you have seen it all our lives...and the boy says, yeah, but she doesn't do that to me...

and the girl does not understand...

and the girl is me.

Wow m-c, that's got to be painful. I can relate because i'm a survivor of child sexual abuse by a family member whom my older sister not only remained loyal to, but kept trying to force me into feeling guilty for writing that person off forever. She'd say things like: "That's still your (insert family member here) no matter what."
I'd tell her maybe SHE can turn her back and accept it but NEVER AGAIN would I.

Her indifference has strained our relationship thru-out our adult life to the point I no longer have anything to do with with her either! And, there is so much more PEACE and HEALING by cutting off all that would just set me back from all the work that had to be done in order to live a normal life with healthy, wholesome relationships, DH being #1.

Imagine all of us being accepting of the likes of a Casey Anthony who'd kill her baby and throw her away like trash? Being indifferent not only to the law but to the amorality of such deviance and instead, "bonding" with such people? Allowing them to reel us in with their false charm only to eventually suck the life right out of us? Cuz that's just what sociopath's do. As we can see by all those who have ever befriended KC are now experiencing. Nice, young and innocent people having to get lawyer's to protect themselves and their good names, trying in vain not to be accused of a murder by the murderer through her mouthpiece Baez.

IMHO, to "bond" with such people is like being poisoned. To just look the other way for the benefit of just one, despite their criminality (specially to those most vulnerable) we then become indifferent to their victims.

 

[trafficsUP66]

I guess we should be really thankful that Tracy is not a male or we might be seeing a jailhouse wedding sometime down the road. (Sarcasm intended)

See this from Tracy's perspective? Okay, I'll try.

Tracy was sent into that house to "babysit" Casey. She was not sent in there to become BFF with her.

Tracy knew at that time what the suspicions were against Casey, and it wasn't long after Tracy arrived that the information about the decomposition in the trunk became news.

Tracy knew that the likely conclusion to draw from that piece of news would be that little Caylee was dead and Casey was already at that point pointing fingers at everyone else--yet she showed no concern that little Caylee might be dead, only that SHE didn't do it.

Tracy was only in that house for eight DAYS--not eight MONTHS or even eight YEARS. It is not like there was enough time for Tracy to become a victim of Stockholm Syndrome in such a short amount of time.

For Tracy to carry on a long distance relationship with Casey for almost a year, not to mention the fact that she was sending Casey money for her commissary account, is truly bizarre.

You know, honestly, if I had a friend, and especially an employee, who "felt a connection" in just eight short days to such a diabolical, evil, conniving, and manipulative person such as Casey Marie Anthony, I would really be questioning the mindset of that friend and/or employee.

In fact, it would scare the bejesus out of me.

Bears repeating!!!!!!!!:clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[Kentjbkent]

I am VERY interested in reading your summarization ....... will you be posting it today?
Thank you

Yes, I am working on it right now typing it up and attaching the supporting links.

Am thinking I should probably post it in the Parking Lot though as I don't want this thread to take a wide left turn in OT land (since theory doesn't just discuss the audio of Tracy)

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? Wasn't LP telling the media she was a bounty hunter? Maybe she has some training or licensing somewhere I haven't heard of, but you'd think she'd state it in her interview with LE.

While I appreciate Tracy's insight into the A family dynamics I'm having a hard time seeing where anything she learned can be admissible or useful at trail. Maybe a legal eagle can show me different.



Exactly! And, I could see why KC would "try" to keep her mouth shut because her attorney had advised her to, in very strong terms ..... but that would not change her demeanor and her body language, or stop her from crying over anxiety about her "missing" daughter, or being in hysterics over the news that decomp air samples were found and her daughter "may" be dead. She never behaved in a distraught manner - she never said I'm terribly upset but my attorney has told me not to talk to anyone but him. That will say a LOT to a juror, I would think.

ThinkTank, I found this to answer the part I put in bold.

"As for Tracy I don't think it's anybody's business but she is not at all law enfrocement."

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[LancelotLink]

Hair sample shows sign of decomp.
Casey's immediate response seems to have been, "I'm alive."

 

[ThinkTank]

Originally Posted by ThinkTank View Post

I am VERY interested in reading your summarization ....... will you be posting it today?
Thank you

Yes, I am working on it right now typing it up and attaching the supporting links.

Am thinking I should probably post it in the Parking Lot though as I don't want this thread to take a wide left turn in OT land (since theory doesn't just discuss the audio of Tracy)

Thank you. Would you please let us know, on this thread, when you have it posted? Thank you for your time and effort in compiling your thoughts on this.

 

[MissJames]

Hair sample shows sign of decomp.
Casey's immediate response seems to have been, "I'm alive."

Yet another shocking event in this saga,to which I'm becoming numb.

 

[ThinkTank]

Hair sample shows sign of decomp.
Casey's immediate response seems to have been, "I'm alive."

Hi there Lancelot!!!! I have missed your postings on the KC threads!!!

Yup -- KC was not horrified to hear news that indicates that her precious daughter is most likely dead ... all KC cares about is pointing out in sarcasm, that the decomp had to be from either Caylee or KC ... and KC was alive ... so, duh! What a B _ _ CH!

And Rob tells how Lee made up a total outlandish LIE about KC's reaction to this news. Lee says KC got high blood pressure over it and they almost had to call 911 ..... all the while, Tracy is telling Rob what KC's reaction REALLY was - sarcasm and total confidence that the air samples of decomp was not bad evidence against KC.

 

[ThinkTank]

ThinkTank, I found this to answer the part I put in bold.

"As for Tracy I don't think it's anybody's business but she is not at all law enfrocement."

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Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone
Refresh my memory please - you were the ? (guy with the dough) ? and LP and friends were the ?. How does/do the relationships work/fit together. If you were just acting as the Banker, who give a carp? Too easy?

Tony Padilla:
I thought you didn't believe it was me?

I am the Bail Agent. I was the one who put up the bond (not money) for Casey's release. Leonard is a bounty hunter and by far the best bounty hunter on the planet. No joking here! He is good. He put up the $50,000 premium for the bond. Rob is also a former police officer and bounty hunter and is also very good. He and Leonard have worked together for years. As for Tracy I don't think it's anybody's business but she is not at all law enfrocement. She will be out there later than sooner.

Do we know why a "non law enforcement trained" woman was chosen to be in the house with KC?

 

[ThinkTank]

Completely off the wall, but for those of you who have that amazing recall memory of details going back to the beginning of this case...

Did LP ever have any dealings with Todd Black or Larry Garrison???

EDIT TO ADD:

May have answered my own question.....

http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2008/09/leonard-padilla-larry-garrison-three.html

Snipped:
NGC dumped Padilla and his Bounty Hunters show on cable TV, they are distancing themselves from Mr. Padilla as fast as they can, so who financed Leonard Padilla's trip to Florida and his involvement in the Casey Anthony 3 ring circus ?....... Larry Garrison of Silver Creek entertainment sure is a likely candidate as he set up shop in the Anthony home prior to Casey Anthony's release. Was this all over getting Casey Anthony interviews for a TV Movie after Casey bailed out of jail by the Padilla's ?

Do you know if this P.I. Bill Warner has posted any updates to his info since last year?

 

[Kentjbkent]

I am VERY interested in reading your summarization ....... will you be posting it today?
Thank you

Now posted in the Parking Lot. :blowkiss:

 

[Kentjbkent]

Am posting this here since it does relate to this audio....

I now think I understand why Tony popped up on WS first on the 8/21/09 Hearing thread and then this thread. I don't think Baez was the only one that didn't want these audios released. I think TP and LP have been working with Baez to get them hidden from public view for THEIR best interest! Perhaps THIS is what LP had been in daily talks with Baez lately (apparently not to lambast him for created false documents!)

If my theory is correct, and they are merely players in a $$ game from the beginning (like so many others), then releasing these audios just lost them their big bombshell to sell a book or movie deal. No longer any mystery about what REALLY happened in the Anthony home when KC came home. It is public knowledge now. In fact, at this point, I don't think there is a detail that we will not have see nor read by the time the penalty phase of this trial arrives.

I also did question this phony document business with Baez. Aren't bondsmen and bountyhunters officers of the court? If they are aware of fraud, aren't they obligated to report it? I think TP may have just put a bug in the prosecutors ear (hoping it would cause the judge to consider the motion) that he didn't THINK he signed this agreement so the prosecutor played that card at the last minute. Of course, neither Tony or Tracy have any kind of proof or documentation of ANY signed agreement?

Smoke screen in my opinion

 

[Kentjbkent]

And another thing.....why has TP taken it upon himself to mount a one-man campaign to smear his uncle LP? that is exactly what he is doing, trying to discredit LP. I dunno, is he perhaps jealous that LP, TMc and RD was deemed important enough to be interviewed by LE/FBI and he wasn't?????

Stir us up? This is the only place he seems to be doing it....and we are playing into his hands

 

[The Eunice Burns]

I haven't posted in a long time but read regularly and I have to tell you, this statement really bothered me and makes me feel like someone is playing a very weird little game. I could be dead wrong, but why would someone who was so involved in this case and supposedly came on this forum to correct any misinformation make the comment "Where is all the really good juicy stuff at?". WTH?
I may just be a very cynical person, but my hinky/skeezy/somethin' aint right in Dodge meter is going off big time.
"If there is anything good please let me know." Are you kidding me???

(going back to lurking....)

Diz! Don't go back to lurking! You are in good company. My "meter" went off last night as well when I read that. I don't know what it is--if we will ever find out-- or in the end, if it will matter w/ this case.....but something is not right. "Something is rotten in Denmark" as the saying goes.......
And you have a sister in cynicism--me!

 

[lawlady84]

Wait wait. Lets take a step back. All we "know" about TM & KCs relationship is that a news report said TM has been writing to KC and putting money in her jail account. We don't know that's true until we see her commissary logs. We're getting all worked up because TP said TM and KC bonded.

Maybe I'm letting the corporate lawyer in me take over (what I do for 14 hours a day, when I'm not being, you know, a loser on websleuths), but maybe TM is just trying to keep up a relationship with KC to get more information. If KC is cut off from her family, and is talking to no one but JB, someone like her will get desperate and may say things that could prove valuable - if only to impress TM and keep up the "friendship."

Or, more likely, I think, TM may be trying to get everything out of KC to...write a book! "8 Days with the Devil." Not to be rude to TM, and maybe its because my industry revolves around making as much money as possible, but TM was - so we've heard - LPs typist? KC IS A GOLD MINE! Who else was in that house, outside of the family? TM has an inside view like none other.

And while this seems awful, and I don't believe anyone should be able to profit off another's tragedy, if TM doing this scrapes up anything for the prosecution - which I think just from her interview it did - then its worth it.

It may be cold, but I don't think it means TM is bonding with the devil.

 

[Kentjbkent]

Do you know if this P.I. Bill Warner has posted any updates to his info since last year?

There is this one.....which might be interesting after the trial

http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2009/08/lowell-ci-female-prisoner-abuse-female.html

Looking now to see when the last time he updated on Caylee story. His front page now is full of terrorist stories

 

[LancelotLink]

Yet another shocking event in this saga,to which I'm becoming numb.

When I heard this, my immediate thought was, Casey just blurted out the truth here. I heard an admission of guilt.

 

[Oakley]

Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?

Do you really believe that? Wow. I've been reading here long before I became a member and that is just not true. I do think the Anthony's have behaved in reprehensible ways and the good folks here at WS are astute and perceptive enough to call it like it is. MOO.

ETA: Gosh Tony, I'm wondering if YOU think we are all Losers like Tracey has stated? If so, why come back on here?:waitasec:

 

[The Eunice Burns]

Wait wait. Lets take a step back. All we "know" about TM & KCs relationship is that a news report said TM has been writing to KC and putting money in her jail account. We don't know that's true until we see her commissary logs. We're getting all worked up because TP said TM and KC bonded.

Maybe I'm letting the corporate lawyer in me take over (what I do for 14 hours a day, when I'm not being, you know, a loser on websleuths), but maybe TM is just trying to keep up a relationship with KC to get more information. If KC is cut off from her family, and is talking to no one but JB, someone like her will get desperate and may say things that could prove valuable - if only to impress TM and keep up the "friendship."

Or, more likely, I think, TM may be trying to get everything out of KC to...write a book! "8 Days with the Devil." Not to be rude to TM, and maybe its because my industry revolves around making as much money as possible, but TM was - so we've heard - LPs typist? KC IS A GOLD MINE! Who else was in that house, outside of the family? TM has an inside view like none other.

And while this seems awful, and I don't believe anyone should be able to profit off another's tragedy, if TM doing this scrapes up anything for the prosecution - which I think just from her interview it did - then its worth it.

It may be cold, but I don't think it means TM is bonding with the devil.

I understand where you are coming from. I think some of us are responding to the "connection" that was formed. My point is that you could do this professionally, act the part, get what you need and move on. Because there have been some "odd" postings, some of us are wondering where the "formed a connection w/ KC" and liking the As so much/"truly love".....where that all fits in. As I posted just a few minutes ago, in the end, it may not matter when it comes to justice for Caylee, and putting her rotten mother where she belongs. It's just there is an oddity here that some of us are questioning. The more that is released to the public and we dissect it, the more bizarre it all gets. KWIM?