2009.01.06 Nancy Grace - "Exclusive Interview with Psychic from BodyHunters"

[TURBOTHINK]

It seems to me the only thing they could "find" is some indication of trauma, which I suppose they would then use to say, "See, ZG did it"?

It also could work against KC since it appears now the place of death was the house.

 

[Brini]

Thanks Chilly, I thought my mind was going or the laptop was:bang:

Yeah. I thought,"Maybe I'm going into the BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!"

Then, i remembered that I'm using a Mac.

 

[essies]

I told my friends and fam, if they bury me in a $3,000 casket, I will come back and HAUNT them! Cremation and scattered ashes. No memorial service, just an Irish wake.

Me too!! Only I want to be sprinkled in the Gulf of Mexico while they play Jimmy Buffet! They can have the wake when they get back on land!
But, for Caylee-whole different story!!:blowkiss:

 

[fortytwo]

You prolly ARE using it right. A LOT of areas have no street views.

I'm not to good at the quote management yet, so please be patient.

I know that there are areas without street views, but apparently someone here found them for the end of Suburban.

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Originally Posted by SuziQ
Someone at WS, matched it up frame by frame to Google street view
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I clipped the above from the post I quoted in my original question.

Thanks.

 

[TxLady2]

I thought Casey had to 'release' the remains? If so, theres nothing George and Cindy can do about it. Also, the cardboard box..well, my grandmother was cremated and when we received the remains from the funeral parlor...they were in a nicely decorated box lined with red velvet. i'm serious!

Most crematoriums give you the option of purchasing an urn, or if you plan to scatter the ashes, you can just receive them in a nice box.
My youngest son wants to be cremated. I very much hope that I am already gone when that happens.
Oh, ETA: not sure what you are talking about with Casey 'releasing' the remains. They are in the funeral home, where they have been since Dr. G. completed the autopsy, so there is nothing to release now. If you are talking about what to do with them, I don't know who has made that decision. I'm sure Casey has given her parents permission to make any arrangements.

 

[Carolina Girl]

Yes, Dr. G. said she did that. Now I wonder what would have made them stay that way when transported, or did she just do that on the examining table? To me it would be like arranging a jigsaw puzzle but something would have to hold the pieces together to stay that way. MOO

Well, I wondered that also, but I thought it an extrememly caring action. She would have to do it on the examination table, but I understood she also did it for the release to the funeral home. It just touched my heart when I heard that, and thought it very thoughtful, whether the Family ever saw it or not.
I keep trying to find good in all of this.

 

[clannad]

Seems like a container of some sort would be mandatory or else along with Uncle Fred you might get some of Great Great Grandma and the Dear Old Crazy Dog Lady from down the street and the Gardener and who knows who else.

Yes, a container is required for cremation.

http://www.icfa.org/cremation.htm

I've seen both human and animal retorts. The animal retorts have slide out trays as no container is necessary for an animal cremation. The human retorts that I have seen have never had a slide out try. They have cardboard rollers that you place the container on and roll it into the retort.

 

[Deputy Andy]

It also could work against KC since it appears now the place of death was the house.

Yeah, I thought the same thing - but the Defense isn't going to "find" that now, are they?

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Yeah. I thought,"Maybe I'm going into the BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!"

Then, i remembered that I'm using a Mac.

A backwaards kinda way for a Mac maybe?

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Interesting. I would imagine that this autopsy was probably the most careful ever conducted by Dr. G. I can't imagine what the Defense will come up when they do the 2nd. I'm sure it will be another bombshell, though. (Shouldn't the entire universe be exploded by now?) And I wondered that myself - why would they need Dr. G's findings to examine the remains themselves?

That itself makes me very suspicious. If there is evidence of a head trauma or a bone trauma, it works against their client. The only thing I can figure they are really wanting (which has nothing to do with the bones) is the entomology and the botanical reports. Maybe also to see what fungi was attached to the bones.

I don't think they really want to contest the ME's bone analysis.

OR.......as I suspect Baez is out of money to pay these people and they are still "shopping" the pictures which they will not get now.

 

[bessie]

I thought Casey had to 'release' the remains? If so, theres nothing George and Cindy can do about it. Also, the cardboard box..well, my grandmother was cremated and when we received the remains from the funeral parlor...they were in a nicely decorated box lined with red velvet. i'm serious!

You were lucky. I've had waaaay more than my share of experience with "the business of death".

My first husband wanted to be cremated. I didn't like the urns the funeral home offered. We agreed I could purchase a container elsewhere and bring it to the funeral home. They would then transfer the ashes for me. I bought a beautiful velvet-lined mahogany jewelry box. When I brought it to the funeral home, the director had a white cardboard box on his desk. I thought it was donuts. He patted the box and said, "Oh, good morning, we have Mr. XXXX right here."

 

[TxLady2]

It also could work against KC since it appears now the place of death was the house.

WHAT????? Have they said Caylee died at the house?? I missed that!

 

[panthera]

Well, I wondered that also, but I thought it an extrememly caring action. She would have to do it on the examination table, but I understood she also did it for the release to the funeral home. It just touched my heart when I heard that, and thought it very thoughtful, whether the Family ever saw it or not.
I keep trying to find good in all of this.

I was so impressed with Dr. G for doing that kind act and it would've been so nice if afterward she could've just been buried that way. MOO

 

[panthera]

WHAT????? Have they said Caylee died at the house?? I missed that!

The house was listed as the crime scene after the GJ indictment. MOO

 

[TURBOTHINK]

WHAT????? Have they said Caylee died at the house?? I missed that!

No...........they haven't. Just because they made it a "crime scene" twice, I said it "appears" that it may be.

 

[kh1967]

Jeez, I hope the defense doesnt wait to do a second autopsy as long as JB waited to go and get the leads/tips at the LE office that LE had waiting for him!?!?!

 

[TxLady2]

Personally I have never seen a card board box used as storage for a deceased. They are reserved for ship-outs. If the body has to stay at the funeral home for an extended amount time, they are simply placed in the cooler with a toe tag for identification.

The cooler looks like ( or the ones im used too ) a big metal fridge. It has three slots for a body to placed on. The coolers that I am used to, would not hold a cardboard box, as the cooler simply isn't big enough to hold one unless they move the slots or take them out.

E*E

That sounds more like a morgue. The funeral homes around here are pretty small... no room for storage of bodies. As soon as they receive a body, it is embalmed and prepared for burial. I guess that the larger ones like in Dallas might have something like that, I don't know. But a toe tag would not work with Caylee, since her remains are a skeleton. And considering that there is not a body... just bones... the box is appropriate.
When you think about it... how many bodies, even murder victims are left laying around after they're identified? Certainly not weeks... they are all usually buried or cremated within days after the autopsy.
This case has been strange from the start and gets stranger every day.

 

[suzet]

Another thing: I wish NG had followed up on Mike Brooks' question about how many other "feelings" did psychic GStJ have while she was there? I was wondering if she has several other locations videotaped with similar "reactions" to an area....

I agree. I love Mike Brooks and he did not disappoint in his opinion on GSJ. Why NG wastes so much time on this woman is beyond me. And the reason they can't show much more of this tape is because of the frequent fowl language throughout, the inferior camera work, useless chit chat, including the stupid comment by GSJ's daughter about a tape. Real professionals here.

Sitting through this GSJ tape once was very difficult. GSJ can't even get out of the freaking car! For all those "strong" feelings she had, she seemed about as psychic as a dish rag and disinterested in accomplishing anything that day. The dogs were adorable, but the rest of the bunch are better suited to the Jerry Springer show. Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but this GSJ group really rubs me the wrong way.

 

[essies]

Jeez, I hope the defense doesnt wait to do a second autopsy as long as JB waited to go and get the leads/tips at the LE office that LE had waiting for him!?!?!

OMG! JB whined about the money for the tips-maybe he doesn't have the money for the 2nd autopsy!

 

[panthera]

That sounds more like a morgue. The funeral homes around here are pretty small... no room for storage of bodies. As soon as they receive a body, it is embalmed and prepared for burial. I guess that the larger ones like in Dallas might have something like that, I don't know. But a toe tag would not work with Caylee, since her remains are a skeleton. And considering that there is not a body... just bones... the box is appropriate.
When you think about it... how many bodies, even murder victims are left laying around after they're identified? Certainly not weeks... they are all usually buried or cremated within days after the autopsy.
This case has been strange from the start and gets stranger every day.

The only times I can think of where a body isn't immediately buried or cremated, even after identification, is if there is no next of kin located or prior arrangements haven't been made. The corpse usually isn't "stored" at a funeral home indefinitely though. MOO