2009.02.27 - Lee's Deposition

[Sunshine52]

I have never heard anyone in LE or any of the prosecutors or ZG attorney's address the fact of the phone call from the nanny to KC when she supposedly talked to Caylee, that we now know that Caylee was deceased at this time. I want to know how all of them will explain this.

 

[jon_burrows]

At the bond hearing, LA testified that he and KC could tell each other things they may not feel comfortable telling anybody else, even their own family members.

But now LA claims at the deposition he wouldn't know if KC has/had a job (and other inconvenient truths) because he lives a whopping mile and a half from his parents house and so isn't privvy the weekly schedules there?

Bah.

But yet he knew where is mom worked and her schedule. He also knew his dad worked 'off and on'. IMO He knows a lot about Caylee's murder and he enjoys toying with the legal system. He is playing with fire but too stupid to know it.

 

[star444]

OT, how come my posts have "edit", which I use all the time, but other's don't?

That's allowing you to edit your own post. For example, you notice a typo after posting, you can go back and correct the typo. But, you can't, and shouldn't, have the option to edit someone else's post. (An exception to this is the moderators can edit anyone's post.)

 

[capps]

OT, how come my posts have "edit", which I use all the time, but other's don't?

The edit shows up on your post only,because you are the only one that can edit it. For instance,when another poster is posting,they have an edit button,so they can edit their own post if need be.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

If you have gone back and edited your post - which I also do, usually to correct typos - the "edit" sign appears on your post. When none appears it means the person who wrote the post did not edit it.

But don't you need the edit button in order to edit? Thank you kind souls. I get it now.

 

[amysmom]

All kidding aside, that IS an insane statement from him, inasmuch as he's wearing a bracelet containing the cremated remains of "her child." This "verb tense-switching" really is a reliable indication of deception, isn't it.

bolded by me

Is that still a RUMOR or did I miss something while I've been a bit out of the loop?

Deception is the 'name of the game' & that was proved once again throughout the entire depo! :bang:

 

[SuziQ]

But yet he knew where is mom worked and her schedule. He also knew his dad worked 'off and on'. IMO He knows a lot about Caylee's murder and he enjoys toying with the legal system. He is playing with fire but too stupid to know it.

IMO, most of that family's problem is they think they are smarter than they really are and it bites them in the butt everytime. I also think that their downfall is going to be that obsession for recording everything. The way they all have these notebooks and print everything out. Casey and her journal, Cindy and her emails, Lee and his yellow legal pad. They are leaving a trail a mile wide.

 

[RR0004]

I don't sense he's out to "humiliate" anyone. Did seem long. Not sure what is or isn't allowed regarding lawyer's roles.

He asked questions I'd like to know the answers to. Never seem to get them.

Yes. The way I took it, and from what JM said during the deposition, his duty is to clear his client's name. I got the sense that his line of questioning was trying to get to the underlying reason WHY Casey, and in fact the rest of the family, claim that it WAS ZFG who kidnapped Caylee. If they truly believe it to be "A" ZFG who stole the poor baby where was their reasoning in all this. They put the focus on ZFG by not considering ANY other person. For example, the questioning about the father. It's been pointed out that in most "kidnapping" situations it's NOT stranger abduction. It would make sense then if Lee was "investigating" that he would want to rule out the involvement of the other parent. Again, by eliminating all others (including Casey), and inspite of the fact that the story didn't ring true, they put the pressure to bear on this one person, ZFG. Again, this is what I took from all of this. From what I gather, there is a lot of leeway allowed in the line of questioning during a civil deposition. IMO the attorney was trying to show that is was a willful decision on the party(ies) involved to put the onus on ZFG even though it defied logic.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Did anyone notice that when Lee was relating anything Cindy told him, he would say, "My mother claimed..." or "My father claimed.." but everything Casey related to him, it was "My sister said...". Hmmmmmm. Why would he do that? Casting doubt without saying it on the veracity of what his parents say?
Lightbulb moment! It is an evil plot! KC and Lee are in this together, and have been from the start! They wove this convoluted web, casting suspicion everywhere,and on everyone, awaiting the moment during trial when they can break down,in tears, and admit they have been covering up the evil done by CA and GA! CA is really Zanny, GA is really Samantha. CA and GA are adjudicated guilty,given life sentences, and KC and LA ride off in the sunset, to live a life of fame and glory, leaving behind the oppressive mother and ineffectual father to rot in jail for the rest of their natural lives. I can see it now......

Wow! --- Wouldn't that be something!

 

[star444]

A rotating hat will just fly off my spinning head so I plan on using mine to puke in!

Seriously! I didn't think this case or the PLAYERS! could get any more BIZARRE! but I should've known better! :waitasec:

But you see, that's the beauty of it!... If this case makes your head start spinning, just get the hat spinning in the opposite direction and place it on your head. Voila! All is good.

But... back on topic. I read someone's post that said they would further depose LA on Monday. Is that true? I understand the attorney said they didn't terminate the depostion, but just suspended it. Or some play on words that meant they have a right to bring him back for more questions.

 

[jon_burrows]

The end of segment 3 in WFTV's version is almost too much for real life. LA's explanation of Zani's orders to KC through myspace posts, text messages, etc. to be somewhere at a certain time. KC would go of course, LA says, because if someone has your daughter you do what they say!!! Sheesh!!

Why didn't JM ask him "Lee, did any of this make sense to you?"

My opinion of Lee has really changed after listening to this litany of garbage.

Great news for Casey. Computer forensics will be able to trace Zani's orders since she posted them on myspace and texted her IF Lee is telling the truth (cough). Good luck to LE in producing those non-existent records.

 

[LancelotLink]

bolded by me

Is that still a RUMOR or did I miss something while I've been a bit out of the loop?

Deception is the 'name of the game' & that was proved once again throughout the entire depo! :bang:

Rumor or not, I'm convinced it is a cremation bracelet.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Lee said "she's gone on record and said she lied about that"...what record would that be ? He was talking about her first story to LE about Sawgrass and dropping Caylee off on the steps and then her switch to Blanchard Park.

This family doesn't know when to listen to "counsel". Almost everytime the attorney tries to bring in the question of relevance, Lee just goes ahead to answer the question. To me it looks like someone who thinks they are smarter than everyone else in the room. Very consistant with what we have seen from ALL of the Anthony's.

Lee's story about ZG taking Caylee at Blanchard just sounds utterly ridiculous...grabbed her arm forcefully, holding her down and said "I am taking Caylee from you, I will give her back" if said directions are followed. To even repeat this "story" as if it is truth is crazy.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Rumor or not, I'm convinced it is a cremation bracelet.

I'm thinking it is too, just by looking at it on the video.

 

[amysmom]

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Lancelotlink, I haven't been as involved with this case as many have been. I kept up to date but maintained a certain amount of emotional distance after I found myself crying during the blanchard park episode.

As a matter of fact, I had not paid much attention to LA at all. So FWIW, here is what I think from viewing this depo without having but just the minimal exposure to LA prior to depo.

There's something off about him. I don't think it can be explained away with just as a case of nerves about the depo. His demeanor at times is so inappropriate it screams for attention. Laughing. Somewhat fidgety, eye movements. I can't say exactly what it is, but this guy is off. I mean as in psychologically. Not mentally ill, just something is so different about him he gives me the willies to be honest.

Most got this same impression when we heard him LAUGHING while explaining the horrible smell from the car in the A's garage to LE..At that time he already knew it was DECOMP & it had to be from his precious little neice!

It was a demented LAUGH from a demented person..Sick & simple!..There's no way around it for me..IOW!..I can't & don't buy the "nervous" theory.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Yes. The way I took it, and from what JM said during the deposition, his duty is to clear his client's name. I got the sense that his line of questioning was trying to get to the underlying reason WHY Casey, and in fact the rest of the family, claim that it WAS ZFG who kidnapped Caylee. If they truly believe it to be "A" ZFG who stole the poor baby where was their reasoning in all this. They put the focus on ZFG by not considering ANY other person. For example, the questioning about the father. It's been pointed out that in most "kidnapping" situations it's NOT stranger abduction. It would make sense then if Lee was "investigating" that he would want to rule out the involvement of the other parent. Again, by eliminating all others (including Casey), and inspite of the fact that the story didn't ring true, they put the pressure to bear on this one person, ZFG. Again, this is what I took from all of this. From what I gather, there is a lot of leeway allowed in the line of questioning during a civil deposition. IMO the attorney was trying to show that is was a willful decision on the party(ies) involved to put the onus on ZFG even though it defied logic.

Yes, because remember the first week of news when it was reported that a ZFG had actually visited SG - what was one to think? But then you got to thinking about the 31 days and death smell. Also, why would the actual ZFG fill out a card if she had gone there to steal a child?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I loved when Lee was talking about something he "got straight from the horse's mouth" and JM said "And what horse would that be?" LOL!

:waitasec: The one with the horse teeth maybe???:crazy:

:woohoo:

 

[LancelotLink]

Yes. The way I took it, and from what JM said during the deposition, his duty is to clear his client's name. I got the sense that his line of questioning was trying to get to the underlying reason WHY Casey, and in fact the rest of the family, claim that it WAS ZFG who kidnapped Caylee. If they truly believe it to be "A" ZFG who stole the poor baby where was their reasoning in all this. They put the focus on ZFG by not considering ANY other person. For example, the questioning about the father. It's been pointed out that in most "kidnapping" situations it's NOT stranger abduction. It would make sense then if Lee was "investigating" that he would want to rule out the involvement of the other parent. Again, by eliminating all others (including Casey), and inspite of the fact that the story didn't ring true, they put the pressure to bear on this one person, ZFG. Again, this is what I took from all of this. From what I gather, there is a lot of leeway allowed in the line of questioning during a civil deposition. IMO the attorney was trying to show that is was a willful decision on the party(ies) involved to put the onus on ZFG even though it defied logic.

I agree. There were questions asked that made me :waitasec: , only to see within Lee's answer the reasoning behind the question. I'm going back and listening a second time later today. Hopefully, with less distractions. I'll try the tinfoil hat this time.

 

[rch85]

Okay...I just found this and thought it was interesting...I know that know one really believes that "the Nanny did it" BUT I keep getting stuck on the descriptions that lee gave of ZG. So I did some research and found this. If you look that the last name listed with the Date of birth being 1/11/86..it would make her early 20's. I know that she has yet to be found, but this does prove there is a 20 something year old woman by the name of ZG out there. Any thoughts?

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/mycler...essionID=b4083772-77c4-42e7-8caa-4b276e6280e2

 

[Jay D]

I think there is a general consensus here thaty Baez could never let KC take the stand in her own defense. After reading the transcript yesterday, I got this nagging feeling that someone has been coaching Lee to take the stand to tell the Zanny story.

Unfortunately, it looks as though Lee's integrity and honesty could be as easily ripped to shreds by the prosecutors as KC's.