2009.12.11 Discuss Motions hearing. One year to the day Caylee Found #1

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  • #841
I'm in the wrong part of Canada maybe LOL! I get the ones you mentioned etc but do get an error message from CNN, NBC, etc re the IP address. Maybe it's a Rogers thing. Good to see you!! Hope you're staying warm!

:twocents: from a fellow Canadian...:) I can't watch some videos on puter, like comedy network, some bravo shows, it seems to be any show/channel that has a Canadian counterpart...but I can watch CNN, NBC, etc...you might want to try anonymouse, that's what I do to hide location...they provide anonymous browsing, originially for the Chinese, but it works here, too...http://anonymouse.org/

PS...thanks SO much to all for the posts re; hearing...I missed it...:(
 
  • #842
In the very first hearing I remember Casey having a moment where her eyes searched the air in a confused manner and she raised her arms in front of her in that classic "warding off blows" mannerism. She looked very far away and very much in a confused moment. I wondered about it then and still do. I had the strong impression at the time that she was remembering some situation in which she'd been threatened but her eyes were searching like she was trying to remember what happened. It was weird.

But in this hearing, the weirdest one yet, that sudden "ow!" and reaching for the back of her head as if she'd been hit from behind. I was like, what?! I'm going to have to review to see what was being said when she did that, I think it was very early on, can't remember which motion. Maybe when Dominick C's lawyer was up.

I saw it too. It was very strange. I think it was in the first motion. She was playing with her hair then touched the back of her head and said ow. She look like she was very uncomfortable.
 
  • #843
In the very first hearing I remember Casey having a moment where her eyes searched the air in a confused manner and she raised her arms in front of her in that classic "warding off blows" mannerism. She looked very far away and very much in a confused moment. I wondered about it then and still do. I had the strong impression at the time that she was remembering some situation in which she'd been threatened but her eyes were searching like she was trying to remember what happened. It was weird.

But in this hearing, the weirdest one yet, that sudden "ow!" and reaching for the back of her head as if she'd been hit from behind. I was like, what?! I'm going to have to review to see what was being said when she did that, I think it was very early on, can't remember which motion. Maybe when Dominick C's lawyer was up.

BBM

I saw the same thing, and my mind said, "It must be the Fickle Finger of Fate"
 
  • #844
I'm way back on page 5, but just wanted to say, Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, to all who have posted as the hearing progressed. You all make me feel like I am there in real time!

Have to leave for the afternoon, but can't wait to get home and watch the videos of the hearing.

Everyone have a good day. It was a good day for Caylee today!
 
  • #845
I might be alone on this, but I thought Kathi B was very unprofessional after the hearing. interrupting Baez when he's answering a question and making him mad to the point that he just leaves. that's not journalism at all. as much as I am not a fan of Baez, I would have reacted the same way he did to how she was acting.

I felt she was being rude to the person that asked the question and to Baez. She might have had great questions but she ruined it by interupting.
 
  • #846
Lots of comments coming in here about her displays of emotion and body language. It's always hard for me to make firm conclusions about any of that. I do have an open question for anyone and it's a hypothetical.


If KC is being wrongly accused of premeditated murder (and she would know this) what would be her expected reactions and emotions while on camera in this courtroom situation? Would it be entirely different than what we saw?
 
  • #847
It's already been said a few times but I absolutely cannot get over the fact that Casey had the audacity to tell AL to make Jeff Ashton stop.

I think that is so unbelievably ________ (insert adjective of your choice...there are soooo many to choose from) that it's laughable. Imagine that? As if you, Casey Marie Anthony, are so important and omnipotent that you can just shut this whole thing down because you don't like what's being said?

As frightened as she may be becoming it's still all about her no matter what. It's interesting to see the ingrained character traits and flaws she subconciously reverts to when the shiz hits the fan.
 
  • #848
LOL. It amazes me that on one hand some would have us believe that a grown woman, large woman I might add, would be unable to free herself from being wrapped in duct tape by her then husband and then want us to believe that the cause of death was not directly related to the duct tape on Caylee's face. WHAT OTHER REASON would there be to duct tape the mouth and nose of a child if not for reasons of death???? Regardless of whoever you think murdered the child it makes no sense to think otherwise. This is not an accidential duct taping death. JMO
 
  • #849
As usual...George and Cindy do their drama king/queen antic. Hopefully, during the actual trial, they won't be allowed to disrupt everyone by slamming out of the courtroom whenever they feel like it. Anything to take the focus off of what their darling daughter did.....
 
  • #850
kc reactions to ashton was the same she had on the first phone call to home....

"casey if something happend to caylee....i'll just die....i'll just die casey"

*oh well*.....*oh my god*....*huge waste*.....huge waste of time calling you guys*

*all my parents care about is caylee.....getting caylee back*

that is what i saw today!

all they care about is caylee....what about me.....shaking her fist....scrunching up her face.....
 
  • #851
It's already been said a few times but I absolutely cannot get over the fact that Casey had the audacity to tell AL to make Jeff Ashton stop.

I think that is so unbelievably ________ (insert adjective of your choice...there are soooo many to choose from) that it's laughable. Imagine that? As if you, Casey Marie Anthony, are so important and omnipotent that you can just shut this whole thing down because you don't like what's being said?

As frightened as she may be becoming it's still all about her no matter what. It's interesting to see the ingrained character traits and flaws she subconciously reverts to when the shiz hits the fan.

personally I believe the "make him stop" was an act for Andrea to get her sympathy and somehow add proof that she didn't commit the crime.
 
  • #852
Heinous, atrocious and cruel.....unnecessary pain before death? OMG....of course little Caylee suffered....at the hands of her own mother....no cruelty?? Of course Caylee didn't have knowledge of her impending death....she was only a 2 year old baby....I hate these people.

It is utterly amazing to see adults arguing against Caylee in the sense that they minimize her suffering. I don't care how they label it, it is evil - whether under the banner of the law or their obligations, etc. It is disgustingly evil.
 
  • #853
"Make him stop."

You know what that says to me, and her reaction? It's like a three year old having a temper tantrum. She's having that same anger reaction that she had in the jail house tapes and videos, if it's not all about her than she's upset. The SA gave her a little sneak preview of how this is going to be at trial and she doesn't like it one bit. I am surprised she didn't start stamping her feet.

That child meant nothing to her.
 
  • #854
It's already been said a few times but I absolutely cannot get over the fact that Casey had the audacity to tell AL to make Jeff Ashton stop.

I think that is so unbelievably ________ (insert adjective of your choice...there are soooo many to choose from) that it's laughable. Imagine that? As if you, Casey Marie Anthony, are so important and omnipotent that you can just shut this whole thing down because you don't like what's being said?

As frightened as she may be becoming it's still all about her no matter what. It's interesting to see the ingrained character traits and flaws she subconciously reverts to when the shiz hits the fan.

see, now I feel this was not weird. <devil's advocate> if she did not kill caylee, why on earth would she want to hear graphic details about her baby's murder? </devil's advocate>

if she IS guilty of the murder, well, who wants the details thrown in their face in front of the world?
 
  • #855
uhm...anyone...was caylee right handed? or too young to tell? (to this day I havent watched her videos except from the memorial, I cant handle knowing she is gone and seeing her alive. emo I know but that's me)
In this video she colors with her left hand but holds crayons in both hands and her left foot between her big and middle toe. She's adorable and this is heartbreaking so I don't suggest viewing. Just proof of the question asked.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpb2jyHCx20[/ame]
 
  • #856
Translation of what I think the defense was after today: "We can't get our client to level with us...the truth of what happened to Caylee...so could you please remove the cameras from the jail...cuz she won't back down from the loser zanny story."

Also, is it becoming a sad trend for defense attorneys to whine that unless there is a video tape of the actual crime being committed...that no defendent should be convicted? That is why we have forensics...or in defense attorney lay terms...junk science.
So I wondered why the defense led the prosecution to give that great speech today. You've hit the nail on the head. Cuz she wouldn't back down from the Zanny story! They knew what they were doing...all four lawyers. Lawyers never ask a question without already knowing the answer. They needed KC to see it.
 
  • #857
I saw it too. It was very strange. I think it was in the first motion. She was playing with her hair then touched the back of her head and said ow. She look like she was very uncomfortable.

I have done the same thing when one or two hairs get caught in the weave of the fabric of my shirt or in the groove or sliver on a chair. One thing that was said today by the defense is that we scrutinize every eyelash . . . well, that is the age of technology . . . . . buck up binky!
 
  • #858
So I wondered why the defense led the prosecution to give that great speech today. You've hit the nail on the head. Cuz she wouldn't back down from the Zanny story! They knew what they were doing...all four lawyers. Lawyers never ask a question without already knowing the answer. They needed KC to see it.

You are brilliant too...made me think of something I would not have but for your post...maybe this was a "come to Jesus" intervention for KC by her attorneys...or at least AL.
 
  • #859
bold by me

I work with children too, and am also a mother, and I would be very concerned if a child put their arms up for protection like that when I asked them about something. That's a very scared child. What could they be doing that's so bad they would cry when caught? Is this in a school?


O/T I usually work with kindergartners, they are usually just learning the rules, and sometimes it's just a matter of them disappointing an adult by getting a time out for hitting another child, getting a time out for scribbling on another child's homework, etc to make them upset and ashamed. They often don't like to disappoint adults by breaking the rules. If these were older kids, I would think it suspicious, but they are still young and my kindergartners cry more easily than the older kids, which is why I have to be extra gentle with them:) They are usually sensitive, and don't want to disappoint adults, not to mention many are still adjusting socially. So I see tears more often than one might think.

With the older kids, the only time I see them cry and act defiant like this is if they get into a fistfight/squabble and they KNOW it is against the rules. Then usually they cry from anger and don't like to look at you when you are discussing what went wrong.

Like I said, those are just my PERSONAL speculative opinions, and reading into someone's body language is certainly NO form of evidence, in any way. I'm certainly no expert, it was just a guy reaction.

I feel the same way that you do, in that we must entertain many points of view on this thread, and not everyone will feel the same way about the case.
 
  • #860
Thanks guys for all the comments....someone had the nerve to have a car accident and I had to leave at the very beginning, to go work it....

OH OH OH....my dear hubby just came in and said I dvred your hearing for you since you had to leave!!!! Bless that Man....he deserves a bil 'ole smooch!!!! He also watches JVM and Nancy with me......I gonna go watch the hearing....from the comments I can't wait to hear Jeff Aston!!
 
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