2010.03.02 Teresa N-Suspicious Behavior

[SoSueMe]

I don't know if you can call this "suspicious" but the brand new baby doll that she was holding on the Maury show really Pi**ed me off. She was portraying the doll as Haleigh's. The doll looked as if it had just been purchased.

That and Haleigh's unopened Christmas gifts. What? In February? Little props to garner sympathy imo.

 

[snookie]

I don't know about that... That would make sense if she'd otherwise distanced herself from Ron and his family but she didn't, she made plenty of statements about how the kids were so well cared for by Ron and Misty, and implied that she had been a close observer of Ron's family life to know that. Supposing Ron and Misty didn't get all those pictures on Monday 9th of February she would have known that they were there from her previous visits even if she'd been elsewhere on that day.

If it was an alibi it might have been meant to convey, "Look, I brought this picture with me, so it means that I must have been at home when Ron called, doesn't it?" If in fact she was somewhere else than her house. The reasoning being that she would likely keep an 8x10 photograph on the wall in her home and not with her at other times. But that would require forethought and planning (to have the picture ready in her car) and wouldn't apply to an improvised coverup, except maybe if TN came from Annette's at Welaka and actually grabbed one of Annette's pictures of Haleigh.

I don't know. IMO the photograph might be just a part of the "concerned grandmother who has LE ties" decor.

And also, if she knew that Ron and/or Misty hurt Haleigh, bringing the photograph would be a way to try to influence LE into the stranger abduction frame of mind. You only need a photograph to find a child who was abducted and is still alive and moving about with strangers. Whereas if your relatives have chucked her lifeless body in a dumpster, a photograph is probably useless by the time she is found, and LE tends to pick up any bodies they find at landfills anyway, regardless of whether they maybe used to look like someone they're searching for, before decomposing. (Sorry for being so graphic. )

Your whole post is brilliant, especially the bolded!

 

[snookie]

I give you two thumb up on this post, AZWriter (in my head I always read that as EZRider :waitasec. If Ron doesn't come across as the golden boy it's not for lack of effort on his mother's part. As for TN singing Misty's praises, I'm sure she was loathe to do it, but she needed Misty to complete the portrait of an upstanding, law abiding and loving, young single father and the innocent young woman who became his childbride. The goal was to avoid placing Misty under the microscope because any dirt found on Misty would reflect back on Ron and open him up to scrutiny. The wedding, the heirloom ring, pfft...all part of her strategy. It worked pretty well for awhile until NayNay spilled the beans to AH about WBG and Misty's big adventure. As those details emerged, naturally she and the family had to turn coat. Other factors led to the split, of course, but that was the major one, imo. At any rate, try as she might, TN could not keep the house of cards from falling.

Oh I couldn't agree more, Bessie. And about the pictures on the wall, I'm thinking TN knew there were none up so she brought her own. She feared Ronald would appear as a less than doting daddy if no pics were proudly displayed. She and her mama went in there and cleaned the (allegedly messy) place up before the video, and hung those pics themselves.

She really put too much thought into though-- ended up making her look more suspicious. Because the reality is Ron was a 25 year old father of 2 who had just moved in the trailer 6 weeks prior. I don't think most people would've thought much that he didn't have pics up just yet.

Bottom line, she goes above and beyond to try and make him look like a perfect and innocent father. It's all about appearances. But why does she have to try so hard? Because she knows there's plenty that needs to be covered up. imo


And about that "heirloom ring"-- hopefully I can find the link and some pics to back this up, but supposedly Misty only wore that ring for about a week or so before she was downsized to a plain gold band. The special ring served it's purpose (to prove how much the matriarchs approved of Misty), and then it was taken back to the pawn shop where it came from. imo

"This girl, who just got back from drugging and sexing it up with another man all weekend, and who let Haleigh get stole just last month, is just so wonderful we're gonna pass on this (fake) precious family keepsake to her."

Again, it's all about appearances.

 

[LFlorida]

Who secretly records a LE interview? Maybe someone who wants to remember what they told LE during that interview. Of course, if you tell the truth, there is no need to recall it later.

It also makes a record of the "official" story, the timeline, etc., for others who may have to give interviews to LE. They all need to stick to the same story. ~JMO~

Did that incident really happen? <<< the taping of the LE interview [IDK - real question]

eta - snookie the ring stuff was from a member's personal knowledge and posted d/s. Perhaps she could post it up here so it can be referenced and she can get the credit she is due. <<< re: the family heirloom engagement ring

 

[TxLady2]

Well, IF TN was clueless at that point, and was not involved in any coverup, then it wouldn't be unusual to think that a grandchild was abducted, would it? That would be my first thought if my son were to call me at 3:30 in the morning to tell me my grandchild was missing. I might HOPE that she had wandered outside, but it would not be my initial reaction, considering the number of children who are abducted all over the country every week. But... I would probably not grab a picture of her off my wall, because I would assume my son would have his own pictures of his children. I'm sure that TN had been inside that MH... they had lived there for several months. But on the chance that she had not... maybe she knew Misty had no decorating skills and figured all the pictures were still packed in a box? Or maybe she knew they were.
I don't know... just thinking out loud.

ETA: Just read above that they only lived there 6 weeks... sorry.

 

[LFlorida]

Well, IF TN was clueless at that point, and was not involved in any coverup, then it wouldn't be unusual to think that a grandchild was abducted, would it? That would be my first thought if my son were to call me at 3:30 in the morning to tell me my grandchild was missing. I might HOPE that she had wandered outside, but it would not be my initial reaction, considering the number of children who are abducted all over the country every week. But... I would probably not grab a picture of her off my wall, because I would assume my son would have his own pictures of his children. I'm sure that TN had been inside that MH... they had lived there for several months. But on the chance that she had not... maybe she knew Misty had no decorating skills and figured all the pictures were still packed in a box? Or maybe she knew they were.
I don't know... just thinking out loud.

If I were the dispatcher of a local LE agency and I was truly convinced that my g'daughter had been snatched, I think one of my first calls would be to the chief LEO of the agency I work for to get word out ASAP.

AAMOF - I would have spent that entire <however distant> drive on the phone, calling my best friend, my close family, Sheriff Sadie, etc.


eta - the whole reason I quoted you, TxLady (d-uh, LF)... Unless my son told me he actually saw someone snatch the child right in front of him, I would tend to pooh-pooh the abduction scenario. It might nag at me in the back of my mind, but there's too much other stuff you can deal with to just go jumping off that ledge and saying, Oh well, somebody stole her.

Sorry - I hate it when I start with all this "If it was me" stuff.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Oh I couldn't agree more, Bessie. And about the pictures on the wall, I'm thinking TN knew there were none up so she brought her own. She feared Ronald would appear as a less than doting daddy if no pics were proudly displayed. She and her mama went in there and cleaned the (allegedly messy) place up before the video, and hung those pics themselves.

She really put too much thought into though-- ended up making her look more suspicious. Because the reality is Ron was a 25 year old father of 2 who had just moved in the trailer 6 weeks prior. I don't think most people would've thought much that he didn't have pics up just yet.

Bottom line, she goes above and beyond to try and make him look like a perfect and innocent father. It's all about appearances. But why does she have to try so hard? Because she knows there's plenty that needs to be covered up. imo


And about that "heirloom ring"-- hopefully I can find the link and some pics to back this up, but supposedly Misty only wore that ring for about a week or so before she was downsized to a plain gold band. The special ring served it's purpose (to prove how much the matriarchs approved of Misty), and then it was taken back to the pawn shop where it came from. imo

"This girl, who just got back from drugging and sexing it up with another man all weekend, and who let Haleigh get stole just last month, is just so wonderful we're gonna pass on this (fake) precious family keepsake to her."

Again, it's all about appearances.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about this site. That said, is this the ring? http://images.google.com/imgres?img...x-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbs=isch:1 You might have to scroll down to Misty Cumming Wedding Ring entry.

 

[debs]

Is the distance Teresa drove that night really 10-15 miles? I thought people were saying she drove 80 miles. She could very easily drive 10-15 miles in a short time. It was after 3:30 a.m. with less traffic. She probably ran lights and stop signs while speeding. I drive 10-12 miles with traffic, lights, and stop signs all the time in less than 15 minutes.

Rita Lane to Green Lane is not that far. However, TN would also have to make several right-angle turns, and definitely had to pass the police stationed down at Tyler, since we know there were officers there as well. I don't believe there were any lights and running stop signs (well, she has tickets for that) isn't a problem, either. IF for whatever reason she was staying the night at the Rita Lane trailer, that's no biggie. No odd coincidence, nothing. What IS a problem is that months went into hiding the fact that she actually lived in Lady Lake.

 

[debs]

snipped for space....

've kinda let TN off the hook with regard to the photo. I was talking to one of my sisters about it whose husband is LE. She said she would have known to grab a photo if it was hanging on the wall, readily available as she's running out the door. According to my brother-in-law, a photo is one of the first things LE will ask for. Getting the missing person's image out to other LE agencies and the general public as quickly as possible is a crucial step in the process. BUT, TN has plenty enough other red flags for me, even disregarding the bringing of the photo. There's definitely something off in her support and praise of Misty....and the tape recording, the driving time, the "snake", the visit to RC in jail and her odd demeanor, her complete and TOTAL BS about RC being the one to bring MC in.....still LMAO at that one, probably cos of Papa's video in the "Off-Topic" thread that I don't know how to link to but wish I did.....:waitasec:

All the above is JMO

I've not let her off the hook for the photo, because why would she have a photo at a trailer she doesn't actually reside at? Wouldn't that be in her established home in Lady Lake? But even then, why would she bring one? There would have (or should have been) photos of Haleigh readily available at the scene. I wouldn't think to drag Princess PeePee's photo with me to her mother's house. I assume she has one. I don't understand the urge to grab the photo. I can even excuse the jacket. But I cannot make sense of the photo.

 

[Kimster]

If I got a call from someone saying that one of my adult boys was missing (I don't have grandkids), I would probably take a photo on my way out. I have pics of them on display and I would want to be prepared in case LE asked for one.

I'm not saying I don't think TN has made some suspicious comments, but this just isn't one of them, IMO.

 

[debs]

That and Haleigh's unopened Christmas gifts. What? In February? Little props to garner sympathy imo.

She had unopened CHRISTMAS gifts????? She disappeared more than a month after Christmas! Who withholds presents from a child????

 

[Crosby87]

Any thoughts as to why TN didn’t talk to Greta about how or why she brought HaLeigh’s photo to Ron’s Tuesday morning? TN told her she changed into her jeans and hopped into the car to drive to Ron’s, but she doesn’t mention where she got HaLeigh’s picture from and I am wondering if she intentionally withheld this information from Greta?

TN also said no one would understand how it feels to loose a grandchild and this is certainly not true. Didn't Ron warn the Anthony's to stay away from one of HaLeigh's vigil?

During Greta’s interview with Misty and Ronald, Greta asked Misty, "Had you been drinking or anything so you would be in a heavy deep sleep at all that night?" and Misty replied "No" yet in other interviews, Misty said she was exhausted that night and didn't hear anything after she fell asleep.

When Greta questioned Misty about how HaLeigh was when she put her to bed,
"Did HaLeigh fall asleep easily or was she at all anxious, getting up and leaving the bed?" Misty said "No, I put her to bed about 8 o'clock because that's her bedtime so she can get up to go to school so she's not tired." Misty’s response makes me wonder if she is hiding something.

 

[4Jacy]

az - Agree with your very thoughtful post. I always thought bringing the 8 X 10 pic of Haleigh was so over the top. But think about it this way: TN worked (at some point) as a dispatcher for the police. She probably has some police as buddies and knew that in a situation like this the police need a picture. However, I don't know how she could have remembered anything like that when she got the call about Haleigh.

 

[Maryann123]

Rumor has it that Misty picked Haleigh up from the bus stop. (two neighbors, and the bus driver) This has not been confirmed by anyone in authority. It is confirmed that Teresa Neves said she picked her up. It's on the NG website with the transcript of the show. Ronald Cummings has always said he picked her up. What difference does it make who picked her up? Why are they lying about this point? I can understand being mistaken about what you did on a certain day, but not on the day your granddaughter goes missing. Why did TN come up with this? It squarely places her at the MH that day, so why do it?
Aired February 17, 2009 - 20:00:00 ET
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/17/ng.01.html
GRACE: We know for a fact, Miss Neves, that she was at school the day that she went missing.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am, she was. I picked her up from the bus stop.

Now, who's lying here? Why is this important enough to lie about?

 

[Whisperer]

Maryann..Hi..Your post has been discussed on many sites. The NG transcript is incorrect. When you listen to the words of TN ... she clearly states RC picked up Haleigh. Another reason we get so confused. We can't always trust what we read. Thanks for your keen eye though.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

She had unopened CHRISTMAS gifts????? She disappeared more than a month after Christmas! Who withholds presents from a child????

That was odd! I always thought that maybe the gifts were at her other residence where Haleigh and Jr. had not been to since the holidays? She said on the police report she was staying on Rita, but I thought she also owned or lived in Lake County? That is something that a lot of us have been trying to figure out.

 

[4Jacy]

Do we know the ring was fake and that it came from a pawn shop. Anyone have a link?

 

[Donjeta]

Well, IF TN was clueless at that point, and was not involved in any coverup, then it wouldn't be unusual to think that a grandchild was abducted, would it? That would be my first thought if my son were to call me at 3:30 in the morning to tell me my grandchild was missing. I might HOPE that she had wandered outside, but it would not be my initial reaction, considering the number of children who are abducted all over the country every week. But... I would probably not grab a picture of her off my wall, because I would assume my son would have his own pictures of his children. I'm sure that TN had been inside that MH... they had lived there for several months. But on the chance that she had not... maybe she knew Misty had no decorating skills and figured all the pictures were still packed in a box? Or maybe she knew they were.
I don't know... just thinking out loud.

ETA: Just read above that they only lived there 6 weeks... sorry.

I might think my grandchild was abducted by a stranger too if I knew that she was taken care of by a responsible adult who was beyond all suspicion because of her long and spotless track record in trustworthiness.

If, however, I knew that my grandchild had been taken care of by a teenage drug user and there had been a problem with her babysitting that night because she was too zonked out after a binge to look after the kids, I would probably think, "Oh [rude word], what did she do now? Damn, I should have known there'd be problems...."

 

[Kimster]

Whisp, I moved your great update over here: Is the world crashing down on all the players now? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

That's where we were discussing TN's legal issues. :blowkiss:

 

[Maryann123]

Maryann..Hi..Your post has been discussed on many sites. The NG transcript is incorrect. When you listen to the words of TN ... she clearly states RC picked up Haleigh. Another reason we get so confused. We can't always trust what we read. Thanks for your keen eye though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xODCZlzoZwI

You are absolutely right! Too bad I didn't look this up before posting. That's one thing I can mark off my list of things to wonder about.
Thank you!