2010.05.11 - Casey Anthony Death Penalty Motions Hearing

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Of everything that I saw and heard today, this is the one thing I will never forget. The defense brought up the fact that her lifestyle was deviant and she slept around. It was not brought up by anyone but her own defense.
I was glad to meet you today.

From my understanding this is NOT what was said. The comments were made in a general reference about Mothers accused of killing their children, NOT Casey. If I am wrong I would of course love a link, but I find this absolutely absurd on every level.
 
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I want to thank those of you who went and reported back as well as those of you who kept a running commentary during the hearing. I was gone all day and missed all of it...I appreciate your perspectives!
 
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I would love to watch this hearing again in order to form an independant opinion, but have yet to see a link to watch a recording. If there is one I would greatly appreciate it :)

From the posts within the thread though, I can say that I am pleased that JP has finally required the sa to lay out their case. They have yet to provide all the discovery at this point as well, leaving most to wonder what their theory actually is
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The State will Not be laying out their case. They will be listing the aggravating factors that they feel are death penalty worthy.
 
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Hi Gypsy Road...my tv is large and I sit real close! I could see tears and her nose did turn red....not trying to argue....wish I could send you the image I saw, it could just be your signal is not as clear as mine...but she wipes them away and looks at them still....

As is mine. I saw the tears and the red face but IMO it was tears for herself. She has NEVER shown ANY concern or tears for Caylee. :(
 
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I will assume this is simply an opinion. I doubt anyone knows whether Casey cried or not. I tend to think that she did as I am of the opinion that she loved Caylee.
I agree. She loved Caylee so much that the very moment KC knew Caylee was kidnapped, she frantically dialed 911 and begged for help.

Oh wait...

On a serious note, I really do agree with you. KC may have loved Caylee. Remember Susan Smith? By all accounts, her boys were her world and those who knew Susan were utterly stunned that she could have killed them. But something dark came over her heart and she decided she'd be better off without them. It's baffling.
 
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When Lyons said they say in blogs she (Casey) is a who** and I should die with her Casey became teary eyed. Video2-4 And seemed to be holding back crying. Then begins to cry Again it is back at Casey crying for herself. I think this is what started her tear moment.

I caught the "blogs should die with her" as well. OOPS, Freudian slip?
 
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Of everything that I saw and heard today, this is the one thing I will never forget. The defense brought up the fact that her lifestyle was deviant and she slept around. It was not brought up by anyone but her own defense.
I was glad to meet you today.
P.S. Ms Lyon(s) looks disgusting from the backend.

You made my laugh so hard I can barely type!
 
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Jean C. on In Session says today was WONDERFUL for the defense!
 
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14,000 reports.........how can defense read all this????Well IMO most WS have read half of them..........
AL it is called "homework"!!!

Funny how Cheney HAD to get his stiches out today..............huh???

Bold mine.

Perhaps if ALyon(s) had taken a sabbatical to "study" her "landmark" case, get the ball rolling, be available more than just one day a week initially... instead of still continuing to teach, she wouldn't be groping and griping about her so called 14,000 pages of reading material...

is she a teacher or an attorney?...sometimes ya just gotta pick one, Andrea! :furious:
 
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Jean C. on In Session says today was WONDERFUL for the defense!

Huh?

All I saw was a bunch of things getting taken care of so it will lessen the appeals process after she is convicted. But maybe that is just me...:waitasec:
 
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Jean C. on In Session says today was WONDERFUL for the defense!
Is Jean C. from backwards world?

Did she expound on her logic?
 
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Is Jean C. from backwards world?

Did she expound on her logic?

Basically, we all got to see how wonderful that Andrea is. And, all of this sets the stage for appeal. :waitasec:
 
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Can we please curtail the negative comments about Ms. Lyon's looks and manner of dress. They're offensive.

Thanks!
BeanE

Oooops! Sorry, BeanE...just got to your post here...won't do it anymore. :blushing:
 
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When AL said that there was no history of torture, abuse, neglect, etc. of a child in this case, I wanted to shout "except ONCE unless you believe in the duct tape fairy".
 
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Jean C. on In Session says today was WONDERFUL for the defense!

Yes, the defense got a crumb today,
but the prosecution took the CAKE!!!!
 
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There will be the normal, guaranteed appeals if KC is convicted. The only thing is, unless the Judge really messes up, or the defense royally drops the ball, the appeals will not be granted. The appeals process lasts for years, but does not mean that any conviction will be overturned.

So, todays hearing was about formal legality. These motions must be filed and presented to the Court. Just a formality so that any conviction cannot be overturned because of ineffective assistance of counsel. Judge has to hear them, has to deny them. That is why 11 more DP motions are slated.
 
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Does the SA have to present a binding list? What I mean, is let's say the SA picks Caylee's age and Casey's relationship as a care giver to her as the mitigating factors...can they add cruel and unusual death later when they go to trial?

The SA already filed a document saying that they believe 4 aggravating factors do apply and 2 might possibly apply. All they have to do now is commit. I agree with HHJP that this is necessary for due process. If something NEW comes out, HHJP will likely let the SA add a factor, although he will also make sure the defense has ample opportunity to address it.
 
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Oooops! Sorry, BeanE...just got to your post here...won't do it anymore. :blushing:

I was going to warn you we'd been warned but I didn't want to seem bossy.
 
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Basically, we all got to see how wonderful that Andrea is. And, all of this sets the stage for appeal. :waitasec:
I'm not a lawyer, but I thought today was about lessening the appeals process if KC is convicted. Sure, the defense was allowed a witness who was an expert in word salads, but for the most part, it seemed to be a legal wrangling in which the State came out on top. Perhaps a legal eagle can set me straight.
 
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There will be the normal, guaranteed appeals if KC is convicted. The only thing is, unless the Judge really messes up, or the defense royally drops the ball, the appeals will not be granted. The appeals process lasts for years, but does not mean that any conviction will be overturned.

So, todays hearing was about formal legality. These motions must be filed and presented to the Court. Just a formality so that any conviction cannot be overturned because of ineffective assistance of counsel. Judge has to hear them, has to deny them. That is why 11 more DP motions are slated.

Excellent post 21merc7 and I agree, very much so.

I use a metaphor for trials. Esp. ones that are high profile and capital cases.

They are preparing for the dance. However it's not a duet. A you move I move. It's a dance contest. Who can present the best moves.

We haven't gotten to that point yet. We are still preparing for the dance.

The motions heard are standard and the defense would be remiss if they had not been presented. JMHO.
 
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