2010.06.28 - Kyron's Dad files for divorce and restraining order

[SuziQ]

What was caught on the scanner? I know you cant carry it over but could you give me a round about time so I can go see?

Look at tonight's posts.

 

[PickieChickie]

State of Oregon - Restraining Orders and Domestic Violence​

If you have been a victim of physical abuse or threatened abuse, you may be able to get a restraining order under the Oregon Family Abuse Prevention Act.

This law allows you to obtain protection from domestic violence without having to file for a divorce or legal separation (although you can do so if you wish).

Restraining Order Requirements

You can get a restraining order under the Family Abuse Prevention Act if your situation fits the following criteria:

* Age. You are at least 18 years old, or you are younger than 18 and the person who abused you is at least 18 and 1) you are (or were) married to that person, or 2) you have been in a sexual relationship with that person.

* Relationship. The person who abused you is: 1) your husband, wife, or domestic partner; or 2) your former husband, wife, or domestic partner; or 3) an adult with whom you are living (or did live) in a sexual relationship; or 4) an adult with whom you have been in a sexual relationship in the last two years; or 5) an adult related to you by blood, marriage, or adoption; or 6) the parent of your child.

* What is meant by “abuse”? If in the last 180 days, the person you wish to restrain has:
physically injured you;

or tried to physically injure you;

or made you afraid that he or she was about to physically injure you or made you have sexual relations against your wishes by using force or threats of force.

* Ongoing Danger: You are in danger of more abuse very soon, and the person who abused you is a threat to the physical safety of you or your children.

NOTE: A judge cannot give you a restraining order solely for threats to take your children, rude behavior, verbal or emotional abuse, or damaged property unless you were in fear that you were about to be physically injured.

What Is A Restraining Order?

A restraining order is a court order that tells the person who hurt you (the “respondent&#8221 to leave you and your children alone.

It can tell the respondent to move from your home and can deal with temporary custody and parenting time of your children.

It can also require the respondent to stay away from your home, school, place of employment, or your children’s day care provider.

You can ask the judge to add other orders (listed in the restraining order papers) that you think will help you stay safe. You also can ask the court to include an order that says the respondent cannot have guns.

The court could also order that a police officer “stand-by” for probably no more than 15 minutes while you (or the abuser who has been ordered to leave) remove essential personal items from the home.

A restraining order can only deal with custody and parenting time issues temporarily. To get “permanent” custody and parenting time orders, you need to a file a family law case, such as a divorce or a custody case.

CONTINUED AT SOURCE (Oregon State Bar site): http://www.osbar.org/public/legalinfo/1140_RestrainingOrders.htm​

 

[pinkpuddytat]

Why would anyone file for divorce in the middle of this tragedy? Out of rage? Out of a 'get even' attitude? To complete what was started months ago? A crumbling marriage? To remove his daughter?

For me, I would be so exhausted, filled with pain, grieving, that divorce would not be something I could tackle mentally, emotionally, or physically. moo mho and all that stuff.

It's probably a procedural necessity. He obviously wants to get 100% custody of the baby girl, and he'd presumably like to get his house back too, as well as prevent Terri from draining their marital assets to pay for her criminal defense. Also, I don't know about Oregon, but in some states, spouses can't testify against each other in court.

 

[butterfly1978]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_stepmom_terri_mo.html

(snip)
But by 8 p.m. Monday, at least four friends had gathered at Terri Horman's blue, two-story house set in woodlands in rural northwest Multnomah County to console their embattled friend after she called them with news of the divorce.

One friend, who asked not to be identified, said that Terri Horman still felt as though the county sheriff's office was on her side.

"They've said in the media that she's not considered a suspect, and she's been told that she's not a suspect," the friend said. "The media is reporting that and that's the same story she knows.

"She's trying to get her thoughts together. I don't know if she's going to stay quiet forever. Stuff is just happening right now. So I think she just needs a little more time."

Terri Horman, who had been just behind the door of the home's living room, popped her head out and told the friend, "Hey, I need you for a sec." But otherwise she did not comment.

Poor Terri seems to be completely in the dark, she is always the last to know she was the last to know her hubby took the baby and moved out the last to know he filed for divorse and seems to be the last to know that LE DOESNT APPEAR TO BE BUYING HER BS!!!!!!
MY goodness is the world being taken over by idiots?

 

[Kimster]

Scanner link: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5337810&highlight=rewind#post5337810

It doesn't say much, but could be a clue. Remember, we don't quote the scanner forum here.

 

[Lavender]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_stepmom_terri_mo.html

Well, it's good that people are there with her. And such an odd comment about the sheriff's office being on her side.

 

[butterfly1978]

nadia and zoey were found alive.

josie and amanda came back from the dead basically.

jaycee was found years after she'd been given up for dead.

please give me some real hope that we can add kyron to this list?

He hasnt been found,
No crime scene
UMMM still thinking..... but thank you:blowkiss:

 

[mtnone]

But by 8 p.m. Monday, at least four friends had gathered at Terri Horman's blue, two-story house set in woodlands in rural northwest Multnomah County to console their embattled friend after she called them with news of the divorce.

One friend, who asked not to be identified, said that Terri Horman still felt as though the county sheriff's office was on her side.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_stepmom_terri_mo.html

Didn't Kaine say in one of the interviews they taped that they expected other friends to speak out, to defend people? Hmmmmm.....

I would love to have a chance to hear Terri say something. Everyone would, I would imagine.

 

[SuziQ]

Scanner link: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5337810&highlight=rewind#post5337810

It doesn't say much, but could be a clue. Remember, we don't quote the scanner forum here.

Thank you!

 

[sofia76]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_stepmom_terri_mo.html

(snip)
But by 8 p.m. Monday, at least four friends had gathered at Terri Horman's blue, two-story house set in woodlands in rural northwest Multnomah County to console their embattled friend after she called them with news of the divorce.

One friend, who asked not to be identified, said that Terri Horman still felt as though the county sheriff's office was on her side.

"They've said in the media that she's not considered a suspect, and she's been told that she's not a suspect," the friend said. "The media is reporting that and that's the same story she knows.

"She's trying to get her thoughts together. I don't know if she's going to stay quiet forever. Stuff is just happening right now. So I think she just needs a little more time."

For a person whose favorite shows are Dexter and CSI, her behavior is awfully naive.

 

[eyes4crime]

~~SNIP~~

The dissolution petition filed by Kaine Horman in Multnomah County Circuit Court listed his representative as Laura Rackner, a family law attorney with Gearing, Rackner & Engel in Portland. Messages left at her office and home were not returned.

Rackner specializes in child custody, divorce and separation legal services, and co-authored the Oregon State Bar Family Law Book, according to her law firm’s website.
~~SNIP~~

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_stepmom_terri_mo.html

 

[AlmostGone]

Maybe the restraining order had a MOVE OUT order!​

IMO the baby staying in her own home would be in the best interest of the child. That poor baby has been through tons! IMO a move for baby would stress her out.

 

[DidionFan]

I'm not intending to imply any suspicion here, just pointing out an extraordinary statistical oddity in this case:

This is the second time Kaine Horman has -- with court support -- removed an infant child of his from its biological mother, at an age where it is extremely unusual for the father to have physical custody.

I haven't heard if the details of why he got Kyron at the age of 3 days have really been pinned down, but for a father to be in this situation *twice*, with two different mothers, for ANY reason(s), is just off-the-charts unusual.

Sorry - I am catching up on this thread! I stepped away for like a half hour...

I wanted to point out that equally - this is the 3d time TH has gotten a divorce after only a couple of years of marriage....I think there were marital problems before this happened - and could be the possible MO.

 

[carole]

IMO the baby staying in her own home would be in the best interest of the child. That poor baby has been through tons! IMO a move for baby would stress her out.

Of course, it would be best for the baby, but Kaine cannot make TH move out. So he does the best he can in the situation and moves out with the baby.

 

[ClueMeIn]

Here is the only information on OJIN so far. Not sure if it will update until a court date is set.

Case Register........ Multnomah Circuit Court Status Open ACTV
Case#...... 100666084 Horman Kaine Andrew/Horman Terri Lynn Moulton
Domestic Relations Dissolution

___ ROLE______ PLAINTIFF_____________________ ATTORNEY______________________
1 Petitioner Horman Kaine Andrew Rackner Laura Ellen Stanford

___ ROLE______ DEFENDANT______________________ATTORNEY______________________
1 Respondent Horman Terri Lynn Moulton

___ ENTER DT FILE DT EVENT/FILING/PROCEEDING_______ SCHD DT TIME___ ROOM
1 6/28/10 6/28/10 Petition
******** END OF DATA ********

 

[cypress]

Sorry - I am catching up on this thread! I stepped away for like a half hour...

I wanted to point out that equally - this is the 3d time TH has gotten a divorce after only a couple of years of marriage....I think there were marital problems before this happened - and could be the possible MO.

But in all fairness, Terri's ex-husbands were remarkably positive about her in their statements to the press.

I've always believed Terri either knew what happened to Kyron or harmed him in some way, but I don't believe this is a black and white situation with Terri bearing all the guilt.

Kaine gives me the creeps, and apparently he gave Desiree the creeps, too. Granted, she's putting all that aside for her son, but that doesn't mean she thinks Kaine is a better person now than he was seven years ago.

I don't think Kaine is guilty of harming Kyron, but I don't think he's innocent insofar as what may have led to this point (and this isn't a defense of Terri).

Something about Kaine really, really, really bothers me.

 

[Betta Blue]

It's probably a procedural necessity. He obviously wants to get 100% custody of the baby girl, and he'd presumably like to get his house back too, as well as prevent Terri from draining their marital assets to pay for her criminal defense. Also, I don't know about Oregon, but in some states, spouses can't testify against each other in court.

bbm
I think it's that they can't be forced to testify against each other. ETA Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[RubyRed]

They've said in the media that she's not considered a suspect, and she's been told that she's not a suspect," the friend said. "The media is reporting that and that's the same story she knows.

"She's trying to get her thoughts together. I don't know if she's going to stay quiet forever. Stuff is just happening right now. So I think she just needs a little more time."

Terri Horman, who had been just behind the door of the home's living room, popped her head out and told the friend, "Hey, I need you for a sec." But otherwise she did not comment.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_stepmom_terri_mo.html

 

[Whisperer]

Buzz is that we should start listening to Scanner....possible news. Didn't we have a scanner thread for Portland?

 

[scandi]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_stepmom_terri_mo.html

Thanks Curiousgal, Some interesting comments and the rumors abound galore! It seems to me this day's news, all of it, has been very carefully planned to accomplish what needed to be done and preserve the integrity of the case. LE working with family members and I would think Kaine's attny too.