2010.06.28 - Kyron's Dad files for divorce and restraining order

[ClueMeIn]

Originally Posted by BeanE
Maybe she wants to protect her daughter from harm because of the threats being made against her. If the baby is with her, she could be harmed.

Well...true...Kyron appears to have possibly come to harm..and Kaine possibly too had her alleged plan worked. Maybe shes simply scared of herself. JMO

LOL!

My x incurred bills after I filed for divorce, and yes, I was still responsible for them. Until the divorce is finalized you are still responsible.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

not surprised...and I equally will not be surprised that this crap didn't fly. Crap doesn't fly far you know?

If you throw some crap up in the air it will usually hit you in the face..

I am sure this is what happened with this pile of tossed crap! MOOOOOOOOOOOO

That also happens when you spit in the wind and it seems that TH is hocking loogies!!

 

[ThoughtFox]

This is gonna be like the Wimbledon... Lots of heads turn back and forth, back and forth, to see where the next ball is going to hit.

I think that is the perfect image!

I'm certain he'd be happy to pay whatever he has if he could mandate she testify in court on certain aspects of the divorce. Or, undergo the psych profile.

Sorry for the OT, but I missed this. Did TH refuse to undergo a psych evaluation?
A profile could be done without her. ...or maybe I've just been watching too much criminal minds- lol.

I believe it was in the Request for Abatement/Postponing the Divorce Proceedings, Terri's attorney wrote that she shouldn't have to take a psychological evaluation for custody of her daughter while she is undergoing so much stress.

So in effect - yeah, she doesn't want anyone to evaluate her right now. That's a good reason from her perspective to postpone the divorce and custody battle - she doesn't have to reveal anything about herself or her problems.

 

[Jaxson]

Originally Posted by BeanE
Maybe she wants to protect her daughter from harm because of the threats being made against her. If the baby is with her, she could be harmed.

Well...true...Kyron appears to have possibly come to harm..and Kaine possibly too had her alleged plan worked. Maybe shes simply scared of herself. JMO

LOL!

My x incurred bills after I filed for divorce, and yes, I was still responsible for them. Until the divorce is finalized you are still responsible.

Oregon state.
If the spouses were separated when one spouse signed for the debt, the other spouse is not responsible to the creditor unless the debt is for the children's education, health, or support needs.

http://www.lawhelp.org/OR/showdocum...elID/111/isubtopicid/8/iproblemcodeid/1390000


Am I responsible for my spouse's debts while we are still married?
You are not responsible for any debts signed for by your spouse before the marriage (unless you also signed for them). Nor are you responsible for any debts your spouse signed for alone during your marriage, with one exception: you and your spouse are each responsible for family expenses, such as debts for living expenses and medical care for each other and the children, even if only one spouse makes the purchase. If you separate, you each are responsible for your own new debts and expenses for the children after that time. For more information about your and your spouse's responsibility for bills after divorce,


http://www.oregonlawhelp.org/OR/sho...elID/111/isubtopicid/4/iproblemcodeid/1390000


Sorry I don't know how to do tiny url stuff.

 

[Emeralgem]

I think that is the perfect image!


I believe it was in the Request for Abatement/Postponing the Divorce Proceedings, Terri's attorney wrote that she shouldn't have to take a psychological evaluation for custody of her daughter while she is undergoing so much stress.
So in effect - yeah, she doesn't want anyone to evaluate her right now. That's a good reason from her perspective to postpone the divorce and custody battle - she doesn't have to reveal anything about herself or her problems.

Truth be known I suspect she doesn't want anyone to evaluate her EVER..JMO

 

[mysticrose]

Oregon Divorce Laws

Snipped........................

PROPERTY DISTRIBUTION:
Oregon is an equitable distribution state, and fault is not a consideration when dividing the marital estate. Retirement plans shall be considered part of the marital estate, and the court shall consider the contribution of a spouse as a homemaker as a contribution to the acquisition of marital assets. The court presumes that both spouses have contributed equally to the acquisition of property during the marriage, whether such property is jointly or separately held, and thus should be divided equitably.

In arriving at a just and proper division of property, the court shall consider reasonable costs of sale of assets, taxes and any other costs reasonably anticipated by the parties. If spousal support is awarded in lieu of a share of property, the court shall order the obligor to provide for and maintain life insurance in an amount commensurate with the obligation and designating the recipient as beneficiary for the duration of the obligation. In determining the proper division of property, the court may consider evidence of the tax consequences on the parties of its proposed judgment. [Based on Oregon Revised Statutes: Chapter 107.105]

ALIMONY/MAINTENANCE/SPOUSAL SUPPORT:
Spousal support may be awarded on a transitional, compensatory, indefinite basis. The following factors are taken into consideration when awarding spousal support:

•Duration of the marriage,
•The age, health, and station of each party,
•The standard of living established during the marriage,
•The relative earning capacity of the parties,
•The financial needs and resources of each party,
•The tax consequences to each party,
•Custodial and child support responsibilities of each party,
•Any other factors that the court deems relevant.

[Based on Oregon Revised Statutes: Chapter 107.105]

http://divorcesupport.about.com/od/statedivorcelaws/a/Oregon_Laws.htm

 

[sleuthy sleutherson]

Hum, she is sexting his friend with graphic photos and content, all while his son is missing & reportedly tried to hire some to off him, now she wants him to pay her attorney fees :waitasec:

I have one word for this SCANDALOUS! :devil:

 

[butwhatif?]

I think that is the perfect image!


I believe it was in the Request for Abatement/Postponing the Divorce Proceedings, Terri's attorney wrote that she shouldn't have to take a psychological evaluation for custody of her daughter while she is undergoing so much stress.

So in effect - yeah, she doesn't want anyone to evaluate her right now. That's a good reason from her perspective to postpone the divorce and custody battle - she doesn't have to reveal anything about herself or her problems.

Well that is crazy! Especially since a psych evaluation could possibly help her defense in the long run. But then it could hurt it too.
I'm sure her atty has done one privately.
She must know that the results wont be great if it's in relation to being able to see her own daughter, and she still won't do it. Wonder if she believes in her heart that she does pose a threat to Baby K, or if it's just atty-advised.
Sorry again- no more OT's for me....I promise.

 

[cypress]

I think that is the perfect image!


I believe it was in the Request for Abatement/Postponing the Divorce Proceedings, Terri's attorney wrote that she shouldn't have to take a psychological evaluation for custody of her daughter while she is undergoing so much stress.

So in effect - yeah, she doesn't want anyone to evaluate her right now. That's a good reason from her perspective to postpone the divorce and custody battle - she doesn't have to reveal anything about herself or her problems.

:waitasec:

BBM

Bunch didn't say she shouldn't have to undergo a psych eval, he said it would be difficult for her to be fairly assessed at this point in time given all the scrutiny by law enforcement and the media, and that no competent evaluator would agree to evaluate Terri under the circumstances precisely because of the inherent difficulty of fairly assessing her at this point in time.

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/motion+to+abate_2.pdf (#8 on the list)

 

[human]

I don't think Terri paid Houze 350,000. I don't think anyone loaned her that money. I don't think anyone gave it to her as a gift. I think someone else hired Houze to represent Terri. Maybe more than one person even.



ETA If you read Houze's web site you will find that he represented someone who works at Intel at a reduced rate. That rate was said to be more than 6 figures. Reduced rate more than 6 figures. That's a lot. The guy was accused of terrorism.

If someone is paying for it, it's a gift.

IRS people, where are you???

 

[Aedrys]

:waitasec:

BBM

Bunch didn't say she shouldn't have to undergo a psych eval, he said it would be difficult for her to be fairly assessed at this point in time given all the scrutiny by law enforcement and the media, and that no competent evaluator would agree to evaluate Terri under the circumstances precisely because of the inherent difficulty of fairly assessing her at this point in time.

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/motion+to+abate_2.pdf (#8 on the list)

But my question is, when is a good time? After a not guilty verdict? After she takes KH for all he's worth and wins a civil suit with the city? She's going to be under stress for a long time, IMO. Saying she's too stressed right now makes no sense. It's not like the stress is just going to ease anytime soon with Kyron missing and TH under suspicion. And what about if Kyron is found and she goes to jail? When will be a good time then to psych eval her? Sounds to me like she doesn't want anyone to ever know what's going on inside that head of hers. Sounds to me like there's never going to be a "good time" to psych eval her.

And I do think it's repugnant that she's asking for money after everything she's put KH through. You'd think she'd want to see her baby more than get money out of KH for anything. If he's that bad, leave him behind and start over. But no, she's still wanting money out of him! Makes me so mad...

 

[human]

I think there is a reward for turning in tax evaders. You get a cut of the take.

Of course, her attorney should tell her that, but how in the heck can she afford the tax liability?

 

[Chili Fries]

:waitasec:

BBM

Bunch didn't say she shouldn't have to undergo a psych eval, he said it would be difficult for her to be fairly assessed at this point in time given all the scrutiny by law enforcement and the media, and that no competent evaluator would agree to evaluate Terri under the circumstances precisely because of the inherent difficulty of fairly assessing her at this point in time.

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/motion+to+abate_2.pdf (#8 on the list)

I think that's a weak rationale. The court should believe any evaluator it has enough confidence in to employ should be able to do his or her job in an unbiased way, unaffected by whatever is prevalent in the media.

 

[Mylou]

IF her attorney has evidence she had done nothing wrong then why she isnt fighting for her daughter?

I find it telling she will fight for her divorce bills to be paid and yet not fight for her own baby.

Im sure there is plan for that as well.

 

[LadyL]

I don't think Terri paid Houze 350,000. I don't think anyone loaned her that money. I don't think anyone gave it to her as a gift. I think someone else hired Houze to represent Terri. Maybe more than one person even.



ETA If you read Houze's web site you will find that he represented someone who works at Intel at a reduced rate. That rate was said to be more than 6 figures. Reduced rate more than 6 figures. That's a lot. The guy was accused of terrorism.

^^bbm¸

ITA.

 

[Calliope]

I think it is likely TH did show MC the documents.

However, I'm not sure how you could prove she did so, or if she just went to make coffee or something and he went snooping.

I find this guy extremely troubling - showing up out of the blue and implicating himself in the case like this... How do we know he isn't/wasn't planning on writing a book or selling a tell-all story to some body?

I just find his involvement really suspicious. It went so far beyond "I was in the area and wanted to help out an highschool buddy" it isn't funny.

bbm

considering he supposedly said he was just trying to get information from Terri to help with the Kyron case, I can see where it can be argued he did this on his own

 

[Jaxson]

If someone is paying for it, it's a gift.

IRS people, where are you???

What is considered a gift?
Any transfer to an individual, either directly or indirectly, where full consideration (measured in money or money's worth) is not received in return.

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=108139,00.html

Okay this is what I found. If Terri's parents transfer money to Houze (example here) and they get 'full consideration' in that their daughter is defended on a criminal charge, does that exclude paying tax? Opinions?

 

[Haeve]

I don't think Terri paid Houze 350,000. I don't think anyone loaned her that money. I don't think anyone gave it to her as a gift. I think someone else hired Houze to represent Terri. Maybe more than one person even.



ETA If you read Houze's web site you will find that he represented someone who works at Intel at a reduced rate. That rate was said to be more than 6 figures. Reduced rate more than 6 figures. That's a lot. The guy was accused of terrorism.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hawash[/ame]


Quote from the article, orginally sourced from KPTV:

Hawash's attorney, Stephen Houze said “It’s our intention to shed the light of day on what has been a dark cloud of secrecy,” stating that he would use his pre-trial discovery powers to compel the United States to declassify any evidence it plans to use in the case. “This is America,” he added. “We have an open court system."

That's some serious lawyering. Seems like defending TH would be a cakewalk compared to that. JMHO

 

[Breathe]

I think Oregon is like here in WA. They base it on finances, who can afford (not that anybody can) it. Husbands ex filed and we are stilll paying for both t-shirts. She didn't work.

But couldn't the non-working spouse financially ruin their ex by contesting every issue and draging out the divorce? And the court would still make the ex pay for endless attorney hours and filings? Isn't that more like pocketbook revenge than justice?

 

[Jaxson]

But couldn't the non-working spouse financially ruin their ex by contesting every issue and draging out the divorce? And the court would still make the ex pay for endless attorney hours and filings? Isn't that more like pocketbook revenge than justice?

That is exactly what my husbands ex did to him. The judge finally told her and her attorney to knock it off and she (female judge)did make her attorney adjust his bill by a LOT! It was still huge. The judge also ended up suspended without pay and transferred to juvenile court when her suspension was up.

Definitely not the best system but it's what we have.