2010.06.29 -- LE says TH not POI nor suspect

[butterfly1978]

The part that worries me is LE may not be in a position for a long time, look at Ward Weaver

 

[Emma Peel]

Well, whichever is correct, it seems the one not in quotes...ie that Terri is not a POI, is making the internet rounds, but of course it is not being given any credibility anyway. So even if LE did say that, not sure it would change too many minds.

:banghead:
yes cluciano, this is the one going around all the news wires, which is why my head hurts and my fingers rant. oowwwie! :blushing:

 

[BeanE]

lololol

thanks for that BeanE.

I actually don't have any complaints about this one. :angel:

(yet):dance:

What??!! Did you see that 'list'?? Did you see that persons??!! We can surely get another 5 or 6 pages out of those!

 

[Calliope]

And be prepared to be hung up on....as you should be. I think LE has plenty to do without a bunch of private citizens calling them. :snooty:

What ? As I should be ?

LOL

In any case, I don't think the Public Information Officer would hang up on... the public.

 

[Lavender]

First they came for our quotation marks, and we said nothing.
Then they came for our commas...

Thank you to everyone who took the time to contact the media to complain about this. Newspapers used to be black and white. The internet is gray.

 

[nursebeeme]

What??!! Did you see that 'list'?? Did you see that persons??!! We can surely get another 5 or 6 pages out of those!

oh no.. oh please not........((another six pages)) LOL

 

[scandi]

Is there a video of this conversation?

You mean she did not mention Terri Horman at all?

Then why do we have this thread?:waitasec:

I am really confused now.

Even if it was an interpretation by the reporter it still says Lindstand said she was neither a suspect or a POI. I don't see how that could be misconstrued. It is rather direct and simple imo.

IMO

Remember Ocean what Dan Abrams of MSNBC said today, that IT MEANS NOTHING for LE to say at this point in time that TH is not a suspect or POI in the case.

It is how LE operates, how they keep the field neutral to help extend the time needed to dot the i's to solve the case and come to the point with the prosecutor's office that the time to make an arrest is finally appropriate IMO. It doesn't mean it isn't what is in the back of their minds, niggling at them to be disproved, until it simply can't be:


" . . . . “Mediaite founder and NBC Chief Legal Analyst Dan Abrams appeared on Today this morning and told Meredith Vieira that all signs point to the investigators telling the family something about Terri Horman that has them distancing themselves from her. Besides Kaine Horman’s open attempts to distance himself from his wife, he issued a joint statement with his ex-wife and Kyron’s biological mother, Desiree Young and her husband, Tony, fully supporting the investigation. Abrams told Vieira that, to him, this means that either Kaine Horman discovered something on his own that is making him distance himself from his wife, or investigators “said something to him about this investigation which led him to say ‘I’ve got to get out of here,’” and the same is true of Kyron’s mother and her family. That said, Abrams was hesitant to see signs of imminent arrest on the horizon, as all this says is that the family is suspicious, but the authorities have yet to make an indication that they are ready to come to the kind of conclusion that leads to arrest: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dan-abrams-missing-oregon-boys-family-may-suspect-stepmother-involved-in-disappearance/



PS: The comment about it means nothing that LE have not named her as a suspect or POI in the case, I can't find it on line but heard him say it on TV live. I can't find a complete transcript of what Dan said in the interview. xox

 

[evelyn24]

:banghead::banghead:
more ambiguity. This is getting to be more and more heartbreaking.

LE never says anyone is a POI while there is still an investigation going on, and they NEVER use the term suspect anymore due to legal ramifications.

I chose not to parce quotes from LE, because it's useless. LE is being vague because they have a case to put together and it's not heartbreaking it's good they are being professional to try and find Kyron. Their main priority is making sure they solve this case, and not to keep us informed.
It's best to watch the actions of LE and forget their public quotes at this time.

 

[Donjeta]

I don't really get the ado about the wording. If LE said that no one has been named a suspect or POI then it's a logical conclusion that Terri Horman hasn't been named a suspect or POI and it shouldn't be very wrong to report that.

"Publicly named" and "secretly considered by LE" are of course two different things but why would they give any statements about what they secretly think?

 

[amethyst221]

It could be inferred that TH has not been named a POI or suspect at this time, yes. It probably does seem more as if LE is somehow exonerating her if the statement directly addresses only her. For myself, I wouldn't support a wrong attribution or misreporting of a statement that TH had been named a suspect - I don't think that bias follows from merely questioning exactly what LE said. My bottom line, I don't care who is named what when so long as I see the person who has taken Kyron get arrested, indicted and tried.

 

[daisy7]

What response are you talking about?

The response from the general public, which includes people posting on the net.

 

[redkatrampant]

LE never says anyone is a POI while there is still an investigation going on, and they NEVER use the term suspect anymore due to legal ramifications.

I chose not to parce quotes from LE, because it's useless. LE is being vague because they have a case to put together and it's not heartbreaking it's good they are being professional to try and find Kyron. Their main priority is making sure they solve this case, and not to keep us informed.
It's best to watch the actions of LE and forget their public quotes at this time.

Thanks, I know you are right. It is just the impatient redhead in me coming out.
I do agree with you. *pouts* I just wanna know!

 

[Etilema]

From:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20398252,00.html

"Terri has not spoken publicly about the incident, but those closest to her say the entire ordeal has taken a huge toll. "She sends me text messages at random and says, 'I miss my son; I want my son back.' It's heartbreaking to talk to her,' " friend Jennifer Jones tells PEOPLE."

She doesn't say that TH says, "I miss Kyron". Perhaps the "my son" she refers to is her 16-year-old.

 

[curiousgal]

From:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20398252,00.html

"Terri has not spoken publicly about the incident, but those closest to her say the entire ordeal has taken a huge toll. "She sends me text messages at random and says, 'I miss my son; I want my son back.' It's heartbreaking to talk to her,' " friend Jennifer Jones tells PEOPLE."

She doesn't say that TH says, "I miss Kyron". Perhaps the "my son" she refers to is her 16-year-old.

Drives me bonkers her friends at random are spouting off at the mouth about this stuff. My son.... hmmm... could be either boy... Maybe she truly misses him, and wants him back, maybe it's remorse? Lord only knows what's going on in this case, in her mind, poor Kyron

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Remember Ocean what Dan Abrams of MSNBC said today, that IT MEANS NOTHING for LE to say at this point in time that TH is not a suspect or POI in the case.

It is how LE operates, how they keep the field neutral to help extend the time needed to dot the i's to solve the case and come to the point with the prosecutor's office that the time to make an arrest is finally appropriate IMO. It doesn't mean it isn't what is in the back of their minds, niggling at them to be disproved, until it simply can't be:


" . . . . “Mediaite founder and NBC Chief Legal Analyst Dan Abrams appeared on Today this morning and told Meredith Vieira that all signs point to the investigators telling the family something about Terri Horman that has them distancing themselves from her. Besides Kaine Horman’s open attempts to distance himself from his wife, he issued a joint statement with his ex-wife and Kyron’s biological mother, Desiree Young and her husband, Tony, fully supporting the investigation. Abrams told Vieira that, to him, this means that either Kaine Horman discovered something on his own that is making him distance himself from his wife, or investigators “said something to him about this investigation which led him to say ‘I’ve got to get out of here,’” and the same is true of Kyron’s mother and her family. That said, Abrams was hesitant to see signs of imminent arrest on the horizon, as all this says is that the family is suspicious, but the authorities have yet to make an indication that they are ready to come to the kind of conclusion that leads to arrest: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dan-abrams-missing-oregon-boys-family-may-suspect-stepmother-involved-in-disappearance/



PS: The comment about it means nothing that LE have not named her as a suspect or POI in the case, I can't find it on line but heard him say it on TV live. I can't find a complete transcript of what Dan said in the interview. xox

I do remember Scandi but this time I am not sure I agree with Dan.

We arent talking about a week after or even a couple of weeks later. We are going to roll into a full month very soon and they arent even in the position to list POIs or suspects????????:waitasec:

That just worries the heck out of me and makes me think even at this stage they dont really know what happened to Kyron or who may have taken him.

I am trying to think of where LE made repeated statements that a certain person wasnt a suspect or POI and then arrested them.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

LE never says anyone is a POI while there is still an investigation going on, and they NEVER use the term suspect anymore due to legal ramifications.

I chose not to parce quotes from LE, because it's useless. LE is being vague because they have a case to put together and it's not heartbreaking it's good they are being professional to try and find Kyron. Their main priority is making sure they solve this case, and not to keep us informed.
It's best to watch the actions of LE and forget their public quotes at this time.

Actually they have before Evelyn.

I am sure there are more cases than the ones that I can remember off of the top of my head. But in Stacy Peterson's disappearance LE said DP was their main suspect. Also LE announced when the young mother named Venus (sorry her last name doesn't come to me now) went missing that her ex husband was the main suspect in that case and they said that very soon after she was taken. Both cases at that time were ongoing and Stacy's continues and this was being said before DP was arrested for killing his 3rd wife and right after Stacy went missing.

And I know there are other instances where this has happened. Where LE has come out and publicly stated they think a certain person is a POI or a suspect.

IMO

 

[Donjeta]

It might be a matter of strategy. It might depend on the suspect's psychology or where they are in the case evidence-wise. If they're waiting for a crucial slip it might be easier to witness if the suspect is fooled into thinking they're not a suspect and feels falsely safe. In other cases they might want to use the public pressure of being named a suspect.

 

[Kimster]

LE never says anyone is a POI while there is still an investigation going on, and they NEVER use the term suspect anymore due to legal ramifications.

I chose not to parce quotes from LE, because it's useless. LE is being vague because they have a case to put together and it's not heartbreaking it's good they are being professional to try and find Kyron. Their main priority is making sure they solve this case, and not to keep us informed.
It's best to watch the actions of LE and forget their public quotes at this time.

They did name a POI in the Lindsey Baum case months ago. There still has not been an arrest in that case.

 

[adh74]

It might be a matter of strategy. It might depend on the suspect's psychology or where they are in the case evidence-wise. If they're waiting for a crucial slip it might be easier to witness if the suspect is fooled into thinking they're not a suspect and feels falsely safe. In other cases they might want to use the public pressure of being named a suspect.

Pure speculation ahead:
Since 911 was called, it would seem that they do not have officers at the house 24/7 like before. Perhaps they are trying to reassure TH that she's not a POI in hopes that she will lead them to her when she thinks she's alone and no one is looking.

That said...if TH truly believes she's not a POI, she's got a lot of denial going on, as it seems quite obvious that she is a person and she is "interesting" in this case.

 

[cluciano63]

I too wonder more, as the days pass since the weekend, if LE really knows anything for sure or are just working off suspicions. Of course the RO is a problem in that if it really deals with the investigation, then there must be something factual that a judge went along with. But I can't understand what it could be that could cause the kind of stay-away orders for Terri regarding child and yet not be enough to arrest her, but still have to do with the case. Does that make any sense at all?