2010.07.03 Sheriff confirms Kyron last seen *inside* school

[xin]

Well, there are no dams across the Columbia River in the Portland area. None in Vancouver that I am aware of. Maybe some small lake dam, but nothing major that actually produces electricity or anything.

OK. So the big dam with the power plant is 40 miles out. Thank you!

 

[lookieloo]

Even though I have followed this case from the beginning, I have a question and I can't find an answer, or I have missed it, and I don't know which thread to ask it under.
If Kyron and TH were inside the school that morning, where was the baby?

 

[DairyGirl]

Even though I have followed this case from the beginning, I have a question and I can't find an answer, or I have missed it, and I don't know which thread to ask it under.
If Kyron and TH were inside the school that morning, where was the baby?

That hasn't been disclosed yet.

 

[liz b.]

The classmate's testimony is exculpatory for Terri, and leaves the door open to anybody and everybody being a perp. There's no way LE is going to acknowledge it unless/until they've charged someone, and that someone is other than Terri.

Should Terri be charged, LE won't acknowledge it, but we'll probably see this child on the defense witness list.

The only thing that can dispute the child's testimony is another witness who saw Kyron after he did, and they don't have that.

I'd be willing to bet that the prosecutor told them not to acknowledge the child in case he/she has to take Terri to trial. Otherwise, the prosecutor stands too great a risk of losing his/her case, and may not even be able/willing to charge Terri.

This is very much worthy of a thread of its own. That one tiny little short interview by that one little child has presented LE and the DA significant problems.

Yes, ITA. .T is an exculpatory witness for sure. The Prosecutor's case would be less than good.... But,IIRC, didn't LE originally say that there was another witness,an unidentified witness,who saw Kyron by his classroom door
at 9 :00 ? What's happened to that witness ? Because that is a full 15 minutes after TH left the school.according to her own account.

I'm sure that the media was asked not to look at these two witnesses ; however,it must present a huge problem for LE .... Because LE themselves originally stated that the "9:00 witness" was the last to see Kyron. And if that was true,surely it points to someone other than TH as a POI ?

All JMO

 

[Patty G]

I didn't get the impression that the Sheriff "confirmed" Kyron being in the school, but more so reporting that Kryon was in the school on that day based on the information LE received from Terri.

"One of the major, major players in this, which you don't normally call in initially, but I had them called in the very first day that this started, was the FBI. I felt because of the circumstances behind this type of a search, the fact that it involved a child, it was inside of a school, was the last known sight of the child, this was significant to me. It was very important and I felt that I needed to have all of the resources available. This is an unusual circumstance for a child to come up missing inside a school.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_investigation_tra.html

 

[Haeve]

Again, it would be the Bonneville Dam in Vancouver, WA, rural but still very near to Portland, coupla miles, across the state line.

Bonneville is over 40 miles upstream. It's the last dam on the lower Columbia. No dam at Vancouver just across the river.

ETA: Sorry I see this was already answered.

I should have said that when people were talking about Coulee and I mentioned it was Bonneville:


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that it also wasn't exactly near Portland. I thought people would take my advice and read the Wikipedia article and click on the coords. I'll be clearer next time, sorry!

 

[cottoncandy]

I hope authorities are not relying solely on eyewitness testimony to confirm that Kyron & step-mom were at school that morning… elementary schools are busy places and it’d be easy to get days confused.

 

[Donjeta]

I think the science fair day would stand out though. The parents whose children take the bus normally aren't there each day and wouldn't confuse it to any other day because there was just this one day in recent memory that they had met people at Skyline.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Yes, ITA. .T is an exculpatory witness for sure. The Prosecutor's case would be less than good.... But,IIRC, didn't LE originally say that there was another witness,an unidentified witness,who saw Kyron by his classroom door at 9 :00 ? What's happened to that witness ? Because that is a full 15 minutes after TH left the school.according to her own account.

I'm sure that the media was asked not to look at these two witnesses ; however,it must present a huge problem for LE .... Because LE themselves originally stated that the "9:00 witness" was the last to see Kyron. And if that was true,surely it points to someone other than TH as a POI ?
All JMO

BBM. I have not yet discounted the possibility that another family member or someone close to the family and known to Kyron arrived at the school to view the science project. If this is true, whoever this person is might very well be the last person known to see or be with Kyron. jmo

 

[Curious Me]

It's crazy because suppose TH said the opposite and insisted she left the school with Kyron that day. There's still no witness to it! Assuming Kyron is not still at the school then who did Kyron leave with? Had to be TH is the way this has been displayed for us.

Just realize that if the murder for hire plot against Kaine is true, then TH is not the type to just drive Kyron to SI or someplace and kill him. Her profile so far does not suggest that. Someone might have Kyron, or someone might have harmed Kyron. I do believe the fact that TH must know that much - where Kyron likely is.

 

[Susan10]

This whole "inside the school" thing has been giving me nightmares from the beginning. It reminds me of the Harvard Med student who was hidden inside a wall by a lab assistant.

What I keep wondering is if there were any new substitute teachers that day? Or if there were any incidents between Kyron and another student that we don't know about?

I'm sorry, something is just fishy and rotten about him last being seen inside the school. I just can't put my finger on what is wrong with this picture.

imo, the picture of him in the school is KH's alibi.

 

[Curious Me]

Kyron was inside the school. No one saw TH actually leave with Kyron. Perhaps she did not leave with him, but someone else did. She met the person on SI to hand him/her the cash for making the smooth abduction. Kyron was knocked out but alive. The person was to take Kyron from there to ...........who knows what.

 

[Beatrice]

I don't know where to post this....

Terri posted on Facebook about Kyron's science project.
Quite seriously, she said that Kyron did all the work & she only directed where things should be placed....:waitasec:

 

[Curious Me]

As others have stated - the SF pic taken was TH's alibi and she made sure she to posted it that day. She placed herself at the school. Seems she could've done this better. It's like we've said, she just didn't expect they'd look so closely at her because she thought she'd just look innocently running errands. Not such a good plan but alot was riding on that SF pic it seems.

 

[Beatrice]

I don't know where to post this....

Terri posted on Facebook about Kyron's science project.
Quite seriously, she said that Kyron did all the work & she only directed where things should be placed....:waitasec:

Adding:
The last time he talked to his son, he told Kyron he was proud of him.

"When I saw him that morning, I was on my way to work," Horman said. "He was out feeding our cat, heading back inside. Just gave each other a big hug, told him to have a great day at the science fair with his project, that I was proud of him for all the effort and just the amazing project he put together and to just have a wonderful day."

 

[Beyond Belief]

If she thought she needed an alibi that she was leaving by herself she would have made a grand exit making sure she walked out with someone.

 

[Curious Me]

If she thought she needed an alibi that she was leaving by herself she would have made a grand exit making sure she walked out with someone.

Hmm...I like that, Beyond Belief. Why didn't she then? She was so confident she could skip over some parts of her story, I'd guess. But yes, she could have yelled and waved in front of a whole crowd while walking alone to her truck if she thought it'd become this important.

 

[xin]

Adding:
The last time he talked to his son, he told Kyron he was proud of him.

"When I saw him that morning, I was on my way to work," Horman said. "He was out feeding our cat, heading back inside. Just gave each other a big hug, told him to have a great day at the science fair with his project, that I was proud of him for all the effort and just the amazing project he put together and to just have a wonderful day."

This rings more like what he wishes had happened than what probably really happened in a hectic rush of getting off to school with a big project. Sounds sort of scripted. imho

 

[sofia76]

This rings more like what he wishes had happened than what probably really happened in a hectic rush of getting off to school with a big project. Sounds sort of scripted. imho

I don't know ... I can see it as being real. Kyron didn't get to school till 8:15 - school is only five or ten minutes from home. Project should have already been there (they didn't ride in the car to take the project in, but because Terri was going to see it all set up at the school). See no reason why it would have been hectic.

 

[GrainneDhu]

If she thought she needed an alibi that she was leaving by herself she would have made a grand exit making sure she walked out with someone.

Heh, what if she did this and the person she walked out with has totally forgotten?

Unlikely but appeals to the black humourist in me.

The above is all speculation, of course.