2010.07.12 - TH accused of sexual affair

[raeann]

IMO its highly possible the FBI, or Kaine himself, knew an old classmate of Kaine's lived very close to TH and KH's home. Possibly even Terri knew him already..through Kaine. Maybe this guy was approached by LE and this sting attempt was proposed Maybe all the texting that was going on was a clever, educated FBI agent who had the New Guys permission and was sitting there doing all the sexting on this mans phone to TH himself, attempting to trap Terri somehow. We certainly don't know the details of this new emerging twisted tale.
I am praying that its LE driven, and this man really isn't sleezy enough to plan to hit on a woman as vulnerable as TH is at this time. Its men like that that give all men a bad name/ reputation. JMO

The idea of a LE sting would at least in some twisted way make sense of this whole thing. However, the fact that MC did something obviously illegal by taking photos of the sealed papers and telling two other people what was in them, plus the fact that he is now seeking his own legal counsel about those actions, tends to contradict the idea that this was a set up plot against TH. Add to that the issue of googling the address on his own phone rather than leading TH to do it herself on her phone or computer, would mean he was a rather incompetent UC plant, as the first goal would have been to get her to do that herself as an illegal act.

jmo

 

[soldiermedic335]

My thoughts are this - divorces don't happen in a vacuum. There had to be problems before Kyron went missing. I'm sure there were some heated arguments and threats of divorce by either Kaine or TH the preceding months or even year. The fact that the older son moves out points in that direction (in my mind).

Then we have MC entering the picture 8-9 months back. Affairs can start "innocently" enough via phone conversations or emails. This "affair" could have started long before it became public.

Boy, what I wouldn't give to get my hands on her laptop! I'm sure it is chock full of all kinds of things.

ETA: I hope and pray this was a move by LE to use MC. It's actually pretty brilliant if it is indeed the case.

I agree, I don't think this came about after the separation of Kaine and TH. I really believe something was going on prior to Kyron's disappearance. If this was an attempt by LE to find out information using MC, then it was a major embarrassment.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Just a little reminder to edit out the names of minors in your posts, quotes from articles and posts quoting other posters. (So the mods won't have to do so later, etc.)

 

[tlcya]

She allegedly tried or was going to try to take the baby from daycare while Kaine was working out, without Kaines knowledge. RO received yet or not, she was planning to take the baby behind Kaines back. Nothing about that is good, it may not fall under the legal definition of "kidnapping" but in my mind Kidnapping is exactly what it amounts to. If she thought Kaines intentnion of not letting her have the baby and be responsible for baby at all, and she was plotting to snatch the baby from daycare, its not cool in my mind. JMO

How do you plan to kidnap your infant from daycare behind your husband's back when to your knowledge you still live toegther and are married raising a child together? It was made very very clear by all that Terri had no knowledge of the plan to institute the RO. LE and Kaine went to GREAT lengths to keep it secret til it was acheived. So in effect, she did not try to kidnap her daughter. She simply tried to pick her up.

Your argument is akin to a husband moving your children out to an undisclosed location while you are at the grocery store and then filing for full custody claiming you abandoned them.

 

[Mylou]

I agree, I don't think this came about after the separation of Kaine and TH. I really believe something was going on prior to Kyron's disappearance. If this was an attempt by LE to find out information using MC, then it was a major embarrassment.

As was the MFH!

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Why is Terri being accused of having an affair when Kaine has already filed divorce papers? Their marriage is over.

I agree the wording is a bit iffy, with "affair," but I guess it works technically, since they were still legally married. Personally, I don't like to chastise grown adults for whatever they do along these lines.

BUT - the timing was certainly a poor choice, and her choice of person with whom to have this affair is just plain baffling... and creepy. MOO.

(The timing of their relationship just makes my eyebrows shoot off the top of my face.)

 

[SurfieTX]

My question is why was Mr.C. so interested in those documents, so much so that he photographed it , and then googled KH new address. Why not just ask KH where he lives ?

My guess is because Kaine had found out about the affair weeks back. I'm getting a feeling that this affair had been going on for some time. The plan was to get rid of Kaine and/or Kyron, move out her older son, grab her daughter and they take off into wonderfulville for ever and ever. I think she still tried to get her daughter and take off, but that plan was foiled. Cook showing up to "help" was just for show.

 

[Emma Peel]

I don't think it is "affair" they are so much concerned about...I think it is what happened involving all that that gave rise to showing documents, taking pics of documents including the addy of KH, etc. Clearly not a good time to be taking up with a guy when all around her are searching for this little guy named Kyron who is missing.......shows her character or lack of,IMO.

show's MC's character too. should have come forward with the first moneyshot from Terri - come forward for Kyron who he supposedly cared about so much...

 

[AbbieNormal]

My question is why was Mr.C. so interested in those documents, so much so that he photographed it , and then googled KH new address. Why not just ask KH where he lives ?

Why did he care where Kaine was? Was the texting thing maybe a plot the New Guy thought up and then after it was in full swing he decided to tell Kaine what was going on? Why sleuth Kaines location? Why not just go to LE and say- look what I've got here-?? His googling Kaines location is disturbing to me and screws up my theory that New Guy was a LE/ FBI "tool" to get something out of Terri.

 

[Emma Peel]

I agree the wording is a bit iffy, with "affair," but I guess it works technically, since they were still legally married. Personally, I don't like to chastise grown adults for whatever they do along these lines.

BUT - the timing was certainly a poor choice, and her choice of person with whom to have this affair with is just plain baffling... and creepy. MOO.

(The timing of their relationship just makes my eyebrows shoot off the top of my face.)

lol @ groucho losing his eyebrows

 

[Emeralgem]

Why is Terri being accused of having an affair when Kaine has already filed divorce papers? Their marriage is over.

Personally, I don't care how many affairs she has or how many people she sexts with.. but IMHO her actions at this time prove she is certainly not a grieving mother or step mother...All Terri cares about is Terri...IMHO.. That speaks volumes..JMO

 

[AbbieNormal]

How do you plan to kidnap your infant from daycare behind your husband's back when to your knowledge you still live toegther and are married raising a child together? It was made very very clear by all that Terri had no knowledge of the plan to institute the RO. LE and Kaine went to GREAT lengths to keep it secret til it was acheived. So in effect, she did not try to kidnap her daughter. She simply tried to pick her up.

Your argument is akin to a husband moving your children out to an undisclosed location while you are at the grocery store and then filing for full custody claiming you abandoned them.

So why was she so sneaky? Why ask an employee at the gym to let her know when Kaine was there w/ baby in daycare? Why not just go to the gym, find Kaine, and tell him I am taking Baby K for a bit??? Because she KNEW Kaine wanted her to NOT be alone with that baby, obviously this is my firm belief and we can agree to disagree, that's cool with me. JMO

 

[tlcya]

So why was she so sneaky? Why ask an employee at the gym to let her know when Kaine was there w/ baby in daycare? Why not just go to the gym, find Kaine, and tell him I am taking Baby K for a bit??? Because she KNEW Kaine wanted her to NOT be alone with that baby, obviously this is my firm belief and we can agree to disagree, that's cool with me. JMO

There is sneaky, and I agree that seems sneaky, but sneaky does not equal illegal. Husbands and wives have disagreements and marital troubles all the time. The point I was trying to make is, there was nothing ilegal about her actions at that moment, shady yes, kidnapping, no.

And yes, we can agree to disagree, much love Abbie

 

[TxLady2]

I seriously doubt this was any kind of setup. IMO, TH has been obsessed with and dependent on men for years - to the extent that she drags her son from man to man, takes up with KH while he's still married, allows her son to be sent away because he "butts heads" with her husband, tries to seduce the landscaper into killing her husband, and now starts sexting with her husband's high school friend while her stepson is missing. I personally think she just doesn't know how to cope with an average day without the attention of a man.

One would think a woman's priority right now would be her children - finding the missing one and getting visitation with the baby. But no, TH chooses instead to chase men. I don't think anyone had to "set her up" - this is what TH does naturally.

IMO

I've known someone like that. While married to hubby #1, she met hubby #2, and when she got tired of him, she moved hubby #3 in, and threw #2 out. And then found #4, and dumped #3. So far she's managed to keep the last one. She uses her looks and her charm to get whatever she wants. I never figured her out until one of her exes told me, she cannot be without a man, not even for a day. She has to have someone doting on her, she is helpless without someone following her around like a puppy doing anything she wants and showering her with attention.
Wish I had figured out how to do that. :waitasec:

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Here's the thread on the kidnapping (of baby K) allegation (released on July 12) if people haven't seen it yet:


[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109152"]The accusation that TH tried to abduct the baby - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[AbbieNormal]

The idea of a LE sting would at least in some twisted way make sense of this whole thing. However, the fact that MC did something obviously illegal by taking photos of the sealed papers and telling two other people what was in them, plus the fact that he is now seeking his own legal counsel about those actions, tends to contradict the idea that this was a set up plot against TH. Add to that the issue of googling the address on his own phone rather than leading TH to do it herself on her phone or computer, would mean he was a rather incompetent UC plant, as the first goal would have been to get her to do that herself as an illegal act.

jmo

I misunderstood one part. I thought it was Kaine who "told 2 other people", and assumed it was DY and TY he told.

Now I hear its the sexting guy who took the pic and then told 2 other people. hmmm...thats weird. What 2 people did he tell? Two thugs who might do harm to Kaine and take baby K? His parents? Two friends? Who he told is a big factor in this, IMO. Wish we knew who those 2 people were.

 

[TxLady2]

IMO its highly possible the FBI, or Kaine himself, knew an old classmate of Kaine's lived very close to TH and KH's home. Possibly even Terri knew him already..through Kaine. Maybe this guy was approached by LE and this sting attempt was proposed Maybe all the texting that was going on was a clever, educated FBI agent who had the New Guys permission and was sitting there doing all the sexting on this mans phone to TH himself, attempting to trap Terri somehow. We certainly don't know the details of this new emerging twisted tale.
I am praying that its LE driven, and this man really isn't sleezy enough to plan to hit on a woman as vulnerable as TH is at this time. Its men like that that give all men a bad name/ reputation. JMO

The FBI setting up an affair, just to manufacture evidence against Terri?? I doubt it. Can't say for sure, but it doesn't sound like something any LE would do, because the ramifications could be serious when it gets to court. These things do tend to come out sooner or later. That defense lawyer would chew them up and spit them out, and the judge would throw the whole case out.

Nope... I don't think it was a sting. I think that IF this guy and Terri had sexual relations, then it happened without any provocation from LE.

Respectfully, I don't understand the bolded part. Maybe I need more coffee??

 

[WhyaDuck?]

The FBI setting up an affair, just to manufacture evidence against Terri?? I doubt it. Can't say for sure, but it doesn't sound like something any LE would do, because the ramifications could be serious when it gets to court. These things do tend to come out sooner or later. That defense lawyer would chew them up and spit them out, and the judge would throw the whole case out.

Nope... I don't think it was a sting. I think that IF this guy and Terri had sexual relations, then it happened without any provocation from LE.

ITA.

Also, if it was a sting, why did they stop it before they got anything useful? Why not wait until she talked about wanting a MFH, or about Kyron? It seems like an awful complex sting to set up, etc, only to blow it before it got anything worth while. IMO, just disclosing the RO would not have made it worth it - and would also be entrapment, since he could have goaded her into disclosing it, for all we know.

 

[mrsc72]

http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/0712/24229769.pdf

On the bottom of page 10 it states that Terri did discuss how much she missed both kids but it was touched on briefly. I am thinking K mentioned this to CYA and that she may have discussed it more than what he wants the GP to beleive in this document KWIM? For him to make even a small mention of this just stood out to me.

I have no idea where this woman is coming from at this point. Maybe she just feels lost, maybe she is the type of person that needs to be wanted?

I would like to know how much Mr C and K hung out with each other before this happened? If they haven't seen each other much, why would he insert himself in the picture to the extent he did?

Round and round we go...but does any of this tell us where Kryon is?

BBM
Glad she took the time to squeeze in thoughts of the kids. Wonder how those texts went..."I'm in my own Family Fued....I miss my kids so much....please see attached pic of me and my boobies! Muah!!!"

This is getting ridiculous. My hope is that this tilt-a-whirl ride brings Kyron home!!

 

[debirlfan]

I don't think she ever sent MC the photos. Just because they were sent from her phone doesn't mean she sent them. If she put the phone down and turned her back - instant set-up.