2010.07.26 Grand Jury begins

[mrsu]

Joel Iwanaga tweeted this a bit ago:

2 Starbucks employees go before Grand Jury today. I just interviewed their boss. Hear what she says about Terri Horman on KOIN 6 at 11. about 1 hour ago via web

And then:

Also, Capt. Mike Shults with Mult Co, who spent days with the Hormans after Kyron's disappearance-spent several hours with Mult Co DA. why? about 1 hour ago via web

http://twitter.com/JoelIwanagaKOIN

 

[goatman]

JMO but what's not normal about this.....IF the report is correct!!!!......is the time these two women were interviewed by the GJ. Two hours, even if an hour a piece, is a LONG time to testify and be questioned by the GJ. Think about it. IF the report is correct, then these employees must have seen or more probably overheard something that the prosecution thinks relevant to the case. How long does it take to ask something like, what time was it? what color shirt? did you see Ky or K. Something is going on with this testimony. JMO again.

Welp, there is only one way to find out. Someone needs to take one for the team (team websleuths that is) and hop on down to the Starbucks and find out.
I hear the baristas are pretty chatty...:angel:

 

[angelainwi]

Joel Iwanaga tweeted this a bit ago:

2 Starbucks employees go before Grand Jury today. I just interviewed their boss. Hear what she says about Terri Horman on KOIN 6 at 11. about 1 hour ago via web

And then:

Also, Capt. Mike Shults with Mult Co, who spent days with the Hormans after Kyron's disappearance-spent several hours with Mult Co DA. why? about 1 hour ago via web

http://twitter.com/JoelIwanagaKOIN

Crap I cannot stay up tonight, but will check in first thing in the morning to see what is said....

 

[cypress]

joel iwanaga tweeted this a bit ago:

2 starbucks employees go before grand jury today. I just interviewed their boss. Hear what she says about terri horman on koin 6 at 11. About 1 hour ago via web

and then:

also, capt. Mike shults with mult co, who spent days with the hormans after kyron's disappearance-spent several hours with mult co da. Why? About 1 hour ago via web

http://twitter.com/joeliwanagakoin

bbm

nooooo!!!!

 

[Wrinkles]

Imagination:
So's officer (choff choff on the gum), ya sees my baby is a crying and a moanin about hers teef, so's I head straight for the grocery store with her and rummage the shevvs looking for the medicine... It weren't there, so I head's out to another store (choff choff).

Yes: what time was that?

Scenario: at that time, she was seen walking into the grocery store with another adult (no baby), they head straight for Starbucks and order coffees, when she picks up her cup of coffee the clerk notices her hand is shaking so bad that the coffee nearly flips over when she picks it up. The other person picks it up for her.

Scenario: she is seen walking directly to the coffee shop, sitting for an hour fiddling with her phone while the baby eats a cookie quietly in her chair -- no fussing. She is never seen going to any of the store aisles, she walked directly out as she walked directly in.

I can think of a million scenarios that could be discussed, how many coffees? Some with, some without milk? I would NEVER drink a coffee without milk UNLESS there was no milk to be had. Did she buy 2 coffees one with and one without milk AND on and on...

Normal MAY NOT at all be normal when a child is disappeared.

 

[mrsu]

Are we allowed to link to the HinkyMeter site? There is a post from July 24th were someone who works at Freddy's knows TH from coming in quite often.

 

[Jo in Calif]

I think the time when she was there and location of the SB will be very telling. The more people we see coming from the GJ to me shows LE has quite a bit of evidence that they are presenting to the GJ. Just because an arrest hasn't been made doesn't prove they don't have enough evidence to arrest her, that's why they have called the GJ. We will just have to wait until all of the whiteness have testified, to find out, hopefully, what charges they intend to charge her with and if any one else is involved. IMO the vision LE has, is looking down the right tunnel.

 

[Emma Peel]

ya know, iced mocha latte is really really good for sore teething gums...

 

[goatman]

ya know, iced mocha latte is really really good for sore teething gums...

O/T
yah know, my momma waz olde skool and useded wiskee....I turneded ouut jus fine:crazy:

but seriously, she did, and then suggested that we use it on our son...I declined and now have stock in orajel

 

[Jo in Calif]

Joel Iwanaga tweeted this a bit ago:

2 Starbucks employees go before Grand Jury today. I just interviewed their boss. Hear what she says about Terri Horman on KOIN 6 at 11. about 1 hour ago via web

And then:

Also, Capt. Mike Shults with Mult Co, who spent days with the Hormans after Kyron's disappearance-spent several hours with Mult Co DA. why? about 1 hour ago via web

http://twitter.com/JoelIwanagaKOIN

Knock it off, I thought we weren't going to have any 11:00 news tonight. LOL

 

[Emma Peel]

Joel Iwanaga tweeted this a bit ago:

2 Starbucks employees go before Grand Jury today. I just interviewed their boss. Hear what she says about Terri Horman on KOIN 6 at 11. about 1 hour ago via web

And then:

Also, Capt. Mike Shults with Mult Co, who spent days with the Hormans after Kyron's disappearance-spent several hours with Mult Co DA. why? about 1 hour ago via web

http://twitter.com/JoelIwanagaKOIN

Also - from same twitter:

2 police detectives from St. Augustine, FL just landed at PDX. I just intv'd them. Why are they here in Portland??? KOIN 6 at 11.

Grand Jury? :waitasec:

ETA: Nevermind. It's probably the Tavar case.

 

[cypress]

Detectives from St. Augustine, FL? Not Florida!

Make it stop!

 

[Jo in Calif]

Also - from same twitter:


Grand Jury? :waitasec:

You just have to get in on it too, force us to stay up late.

 

[bessie]

Also - from same twitter:


Grand Jury? :waitasec:

GJ, yeah, but LE from St. Augustine, FL? WTF!

 

[Emma Peel]

Sorry I now think perhaps that's the Tavar case... just from googling both cities & "detectives" - it comes up. ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_can_lead_them_to_missing_florida_woman.html

 

[Leila]

HHhhmmm... I wonder why this visit to starbucks was left out of her overly detailed runthru of her entire days events sent via email on June 5th. (maybe DY was correct afterall that Terri COULDN'T[or wouldnt] remember the events of her day on June 4th) Cuz she sure left out the starbucks trip and must be of some relevance as the employees were called before the GJ and even more telling their testimony was over 2 hours long...

She not only left out her trip to Starbucks in her email to her friend giving a time line, but she also left out that there was another person in the truck with her at Skyline School.

I wonder what else she forgot to include..............

 

[bessie]

It's possible that these employees went to LE the second they heard about Kyron

That's what I'm thinking, human. They saw or heard something significant. I can't imagine why it would take so long to give testimony confirming her presence and demeanor.

 

[Leila]

JMO but what's not normal about this.....IF the report is correct!!!!......is the time these two women were interviewed by the GJ. Two hours, even if an hour a piece, is a LONG time to testify and be questioned by the GJ. Think about it. IF the report is correct, then these employees must have seen or more probably overheard something that the prosecution thinks relevant to the case. How long does it take to ask something like, what time was it? what color shirt? did you see Ky or K. Something is going on with this testimony. JMO again.

I agree! Two hours, even if it's an hour each for the two employees, is a lot of time to devote to one subject - the stop at Starbuck's for coffee. There's just a few basic questions - what time did she stop at Starbucks; did she sit down and drink her coffee or take it with her; who was with her; if someone was with her, describe him or her; how long was she there; did she make any cell phone calls; use a laptop; what was her demeanor; did you overhear any conversation. I would imagine all that could be asked and answered in about 15-20 minutes.

I suspect those two employees may have a lot to report to the grand jury.

 

[miabellamoure]

SNARK ALERT!

So what are they thinking...she 'disappeared' Kyron and then went for her double shot, no foam, low fat mocha?

yeah, and next thing we know it will be the "mocha defense" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defense). "your honor she used to drink LOW fat with no foam...and THAT day she was drinking it WITH foam..."

END Snark

I can see how the Starbucks testimony can be seen as LE shoring up the case and poking holes in her timeline...

However, to me it speaks of desperation. Really, doesn't her being at Starbucks give her LESS time to commit the crime?

Maybe she "already" did the deed and now needed a "caffeine-fix" for the energy she was going to need to cover up her tracks...

I'm leaning towards the SB's being inside the FM and hoping it shows TH on a security camera with a "happy" little giggling baby K in her arms showing no sign of that "earache"...and a companion by her side would be nice, too.

 

[PoppyH]

She not only left out her trip to Starbucks in her email to her friend giving a time line, but she also left out that there was another person in the truck with her at Skyline School.

I wonder what else she forgot to include..............

What she did with Kyron?? JMO