2010.08.05 Dominic Casey emails

[Gnatcatcher]

Y'all are getting excited over nothing here about TES. HHJP has signed the order; there will be NO expedition hunting for a SODDI. Remember HHJP will review the forms prior to releasing them to JB for interviewing.

Personally, I believe HHJP will give JB a humdinger of a smack down over this latest motion. JB better be wearing his "sorry face" and CM better had fixed that battery issue in his ears.

Agreed. And besides, they only have 9 months left to find a scapegoat, dig up dirt, act on it, and write more motions. It took them 2 years to get this far, how much time do you think it'd take to even make that first phone call? Judge sure isn't going to push the start of the trial back for THIS nonsense!

 

[TorisMom003]

" □ We do not promote agenda-setting theories. We seek the truth & let the evidence speak □ " From D & A website. Guess someone forgot what those emails were all about.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Ginette is not hiding but her motives are questionable to say the least.
Who is Luke P.? Do we know?
How did they find one another and then DC?
I read where Ginette said she met this guy 'Luke' but I'm still not getting their connection.
It does NOT seem like they had a working relationship prior to Caylee's case yet Luke sort of portrays that they did to DC.

Did I miss something?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

" □ We do not promote agenda-setting theories. We seek the truth & let the evidence speak □ " From D & A website. Guess someone forgot what those emails were all about.

I'm going to go out on a limb here.
I have to admit that DC was one of the characters I didn't spend alot of time trying to understand earlier in the case. It became too much that with Kidfinders, Hoover, DC, that Michelle person, Kronk and revolving Lawyers - I just couldn't keep track of them all.

Now having read all of DC's emails along with those of Luke and this Ginette person, my impression from DC is that he wanted to believe in an alive Caylee and was working for the Defense and the family so his slant would be to support their angle. Yet I read his emails to Luke where several times he questioned the hopes of finding an alive Caylee. I'm not sensing that he was an all knowing participant from the getgo. Could he have been played by the A camp too? In his emails he comes across as someone who is trying to find an alternative explanation other than that Caylee is dead. Prior to December 11, 2008, a lot of us were doing that even though in the back of our minds (31 days and car issue) we knew it was not probable.

I'm not 'sensing' a con man - more like a frustrated man who feels he's not being taken seriously by either side of the coin - LE or the defense team.

Can someone tell me why they feel he is a 'bad guy' versus one who just got caught up in a terrible mess?

That said, I wonder more about how Luke and Ginette fit into all of the behind the scenes stuff.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Could Luke be like an FBI agent or someone who was playing a role to get to inside the A camp?

 

[RR0004]

" □ We do not promote agenda-setting theories. We seek the truth & let the evidence speak □ " From D & A website. Guess someone forgot what those emails were all about.

I'm so glad that you quoted that (agenda-setting theories)...I was afraid to...lol.

 

[RR0004]

Could Luke be like an FBI agent or someone who was playing a role to get to inside the A camp?

Ya never know. I got the genuine feeling someone was playing someone.

ETA: and wouldn't that have been very clever of LE?!

 

[RR0004]

Ginette is not hiding but her motives are questionable to say the least.
Who is Luke P.? Do we know?
How did they find one another and then DC?
I read where Ginette said she met this guy 'Luke' but I'm still not getting their connection.
It does NOT seem like they had a working relationship prior to Caylee's case yet Luke sort of portrays that they did to DC.

Did I miss something?

I guess he's the "handler". They must know each other...didn't the emails begin before Caylee went missing?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I guess he's the "handler". They must know each other...didn't the emails begin before Caylee went missing?

I don't think so. Did they?
Please don't make me go back in there!
There is an email from Ginette to someone where she says
that she met this guy named Luke who works for the state.

Did anyone see that? It's in the second half of the emails.
I should try to find it and I'm kicking myself for not writing down
the page number.

 

[countzero]

I don't think so. Did they?
Please don't make me go back in there!
There is an email from Ginette to someone where she says
that she met this guy named Luke who works for the state.

Did anyone see that? It's in the second half of the emails.
I should try to find it and I'm kicking myself for not writing down
the page number.

Luke said because Allen went to his employer, he lost his job and security clearance. Luke claimed he worked for a defense contractor, but he didn't say which state he worked in. Luke was extremely evasive in his personal info in most of these emails. Being the go between DC and GL at times, yet he spills his employer info to DC. I was in the intel field for years and have great difficulty believing his stories about his job. At times, I have great difficulty believing this person exists.

 

[The World According]

Could Luke be like an FBI agent or someone who was playing a role to get to inside the A camp?

Not in his wildest dreams, not in any vision, not if he were reincarnated, not even if he were re-babtised. No friend, but that was a good laugh that will last me well into the weekend.:dance:
Just by his writings alone, I feel very safe in assuring you that if Luke worked in any capacity for the defense ( as in national or state ) department, I am the Pope. Either that or contractor could mean anything , companies are contracted by the government to make uniforms for example, they are hardly folks with security level clearances.
Go with your gut , immediate instinct if something sounds ridiculous.
A federal agent would not have engaged in all of those e mails with Dominic, if they would....be afraid, be very afraid. Has anyone googled his name that was on the e mails?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I guess he's the "handler". They must know each other...didn't the emails begin before Caylee went missing?

I don't think so. Did they?
Please don't make me go back in there!
There is an email from Ginette to someone where she says
that she met this guy named Luke who works for the state.

Did anyone see that? It's in the second half of the emails.
I should try to find it and I'm kicking myself for not writing down
the page number.

To recap (as I think this was discussed earlier in the thread) - the first email we see is dated June 21, 2008 at 9:48PM and is sent from Ginny to Luke.

June 28, 2008 - Ginny tells Luke that her sister was in the psyce ward (at one time).

Up until now you can tell that Luke and Ginny are getting to know each other because Ginny is explaining who's who in her life. It doesn't seem they know each other well during these first few emails.

On July 12, 2008 - Ginny asks "Where's Cindy?" in the subject of her email. Then she asks, "who is cindy? and what state are we starting from?"

Therefore, I conclude that Luke brought the case to Ginny and not the other way around.

July 20, 2008 - is the first time Caylee's name is mentioned in an email.

I'll look for the first DC email.
Then I'll try to find where Ginny tells someone who she thinks Luke is.
Wish me luck!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Not in his wildest dreams, not in any vision, not if he were reincarnated, not even if he were re-babtised. No friend, but that was a good laugh that will last me well into the weekend.:dance:

I'm going to try to find where Ginny says who she thinks he is - if it is even true. They seem to be starting some kind of not for profit paranormal type business or something. A website, classes and possibly counseling is what Ginny said her vision/goals are.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Luke said because Allen went to his employer, he lost his job and security clearance. Luke claimed he worked for a defense contractor, but he didn't say which state he worked in. Luke was extremely evasive in his personal info in most of these emails. Being the go between DC and GL at times, yet he spills his employer info to DC. I was in the intel field for years and have great difficulty believing his stories about his job. At times, I have great difficulty believing this person exists.

Is there any way that Luke could be JH?
(like I said before, I haven't followed this aspect of the case closely so I'm just brainstorming)

Could Luke be someone inside JB's camp?

 

[LambChop]

Is there any way that Luke could be JH?
(like I said before, I haven't followed this aspect of the case closely so I'm just brainstorming)

Could Luke be someone inside JB's camp?

Well, Luke better be Luke because he filed a police report on a psychic tip he had. I is in one of those 1800 pages.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Not in his wildest dreams, not in any vision, not if he were reincarnated, not even if he were re-babtised. No friend, but that was a good laugh that will last me well into the weekend.:dance:
Just by his writings alone, I feel very safe in assuring you that if Luke worked in any capacity for the defense ( as in national or state ) department, I am the Pope. Either that or contractor could mean anything , companies are contracted by the government to make uniforms for example, they are hardly folks with security level clearances.
Go with your gut , immediate instinct if something sounds ridiculous.
A federal agent would not have engaged in all of those e mails with Dominic, if they would....be afraid, be very afraid. Has anyone googled his name that was on the e mails?

Good question. I'm afraid to google these people. There's the other name too - "Spencer, Jamil" which is on the letterhead. How does that fit in to the picture? Are these Kidfinder people?

 

[LambChop]

Good question. I'm afraid to google these people. There's the other name too - "Spencer, Jamil" which is on the letterhead. How does that fit in to the picture? Are these Kidfinder people?

My guess is poor Jamil lost the toss to print the emails out. lol

 

[Woe.be.gone]

My guess is poor Jamil lost the toss to print the emails out. lol

Do you mean print them out for Yuri and Co?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

The first contact we know of went from Luke to DC on August 5, 2008, asking DC to send him a picture of Rosita M.

Luke is identified with 'Anam Caillte Sensory Search and Recovery' in White Post, Virginia.

(around pdf. 50)
DC wants to know why Luke wants a picture of RM and emails him and asks 'explain why you want a picture of Rosita M. again?'

It appears a phone call took place between them.

Later DC emails Luke (8/5/08 at 9:41 PM) and says, "Thank you for the contact information."

It appears to me that someone in the A camp or JB camp had Luke contact DC and they began working together.
DC is happy to have a compadre and cooperates but Luke is driving the Psychic train. DC does question things at times.

 

[countzero]

Is there any way that Luke could be JH?
(like I said before, I haven't followed this aspect of the case closely so I'm just brainstorming)

Could Luke be someone inside JB's camp?

Ha, that brought a good laugh at his expense. Nope. This Luke person used a netzero account. Same as GL. Netzero is used mainly by those who cannot get a high speed Internet service and is strictly a dial up service, cheap one at that.

I won't get into security clearances, but I can guarantee you that he wouldn't have received even a secret one with his history. Especially after 9-11. If JAllen did report Luke to his HR/security officers, then you can bet and be assured there was a dang good reason for Luke to be fired and lose his clearance. Also Luke would have had to sign a confidentiality form upon being fired from this firm.

Again, I am not convinced this Luke exists. Anyone could have filed a tip and not used their real name.

There is just something strange with the way these people communicated that has my hinky meter on high.