2010.08.22 Brad Conway speaks out on Steph Watts show

[Gnatcatcher]

Thank you to everyone who posted throughout the broadcast, 7pm on a Sunday is my family time and I've given up way too much family time in these two years for this case, so I couldn't listen. I'll listen to the replay later.

I wanted to say a few things though. First of all, not only doesn't Brad believe the Zanny story, but George and Cindy never believed it either. If you can stand the lunacy, listen again to the FBI interviews from July 30, 2008 and Cindy clearly says that Zanny is code for whomever is watching the baby at that time. Could be Ricardo, could be Amy. Could NOT be Zanny. So Brad stating that, or laughing at it rather, doesn't take me by surprise.

I'm also not surprised he didn't bring up the $3K, for a few reasons. One, there's only so much time to talk and there were a ton of subjects touched on. Two, it's not in his best interest. Three, if people are listening who aren't as well versed in this case as we are, why bring up more muck.

I'm disappointed that he wasn't asked (or maybe he was and nobody posted it here? not sure), specifically how or who the Anthonys would get as a new attorney. Did Brad recommend anyone? Are they actively seeking counsel? What do they, take out an ad in the paper? How will that be handled.

And more specifically WHAT obstruction charges? I mean, I can write out a list myself, I'm sure we all could, but specifically on what could or will they be facing in the future?

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

I don't really buy any of the spin about brad being a good guy. He's clearly competent, not stupid, and knew Casey was/is guilty and knew the zanny story was absurd nonsense. How in the world can someone still remain attached to this circus on the side of the anthonys as thousands of people search and unknowingly waste 100k dollars and thousands of hours?? What is this person even thinking?? It's despicable and he should have either persuaded them to do the right thing (yeah right) or gotten away from them for his own conscience sake, and I'm assuming he had one.

Yep, Horace I totally agree..and to implicate innocent people as the one who may have harmed Caylee...why didn't Brad speak up to the A's???

Seems they handle CA like she's a fragile piece of glass waiting to shatter, NOT!! Why isn't anyone informing her, if she keeps up this nonsense or as MN put it, nonsensical rantings, she can get herself arrested. Why didn't someone tell her to come clean for Caylee's sake, be Caylee's voice? Isn't that what a crime victims advocate does? Why didn't they ever tell ICA to come clean and save her own life and stop with the lying??? CA has already said, they are made from the same cloth but in reality, in that last 911 call, I do believe CA knew, for the "CASEY, what have you done? Echoes in my ears. She is fully aware of ICA's capabilities and why didn't anyone ask Brad, Why was it that CA was threatening to take custody of Caylee?

They also aren't very happy with Baez on their daughters case, clearly they feel he is imcompetent for they tried to get him replaced..Brad was waiting to be asked to join the team??? Did I read right??? LMAO

Isn't truth always best? It might not set them free but at least their souls would be clean.

Justice for Caylee

 

[coco puff]

He told the media how the A's haven't lied about anything. He told the media that there was no duct tape. Brad is a liar. The monies he recieved for brokering the media deal is just the tip of the iceburg and he knows it. He has enabled the A's to continue their pathetic denial tour. He is just as much a media as the rest of them. I'm sick of people like him that think they are smarter than the rest of us by giving a few tid bits of information that he knows the public wants to hear and then expects to become the hero. A hero would have stopped the A's in the beginning. A hero would have instilled some respect for the deposition process to his clients. A hero would stop the A's finger pointing and conspiracy theories involving LE. A hero would have persued justice for Caylee. He is no hero. Barf

 

[magic-cat]

Money is money, and money does NOT mean "pro bono."

One of them is lying.

ETA: That was poorly stated by me. "Pro bono" means NO money, not "just a little money."

It is entirely possible, and even likely, that Brad was paid BY CBC and NOT by the Anthony family, thereby making his statement that he worked for them pro-bono and received no money from THEM a truthful statement. He may have made some other money OFF of this, but not FROM them...Make sense? :waitasec:

Regardless, I cannot wait to see with whom they will replace him...

 

[Paintr]

I would not be surprised to find that Mr Conway has rejoined the Anthonys as their lawyer or has joined the defense team as he wanted. He had no problem with representing the Anthonys when Cindy Anthony was trying to implicate someone else in Caylee's murder. When facts were being twisted and accusations were flying, Mr Conway sat by and did nothing. He did not resign then.

Only when the 'mistruths' involved him personally, did Mr Conway take action. He hasen't really left the Anthonys but seems to be standing with one foot on either side of the door sill, waiting for future happenings to dictate which way he will decide to go.

No,sorry Mr Conway, not buying the 'hero' lable.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

BC sounded nicer and more reasonable than I had expected. I did not like his explanation about his answer to the duct tape question though. He rationalized by saying that the information that was coming out was not clear ~ and ended the discussion with a mini lecture about waiting for trial and not to base judgements on discovery. He should have given himself that lecture before he claimed on national TV that there was no duct tape on the skull. (And it didn't sound as though he was sharing "lessons learned." It sounded, to me, more like a chastisement to people who used this tactic.) Hello, did he forget he was the one who did it?

That one answer caused me to take everything else he talked about with a small grain of salt and to wonder if he was putting his own subtile twist on other facts he shared as well. (Can you really see a scene where Cindy's pro bono lawyer quits because of the position she put him in ~ and her response is nothing more than a matter-of-fact attitude?)

Whoops ~ I think I'll go crawl back in bed and try getting out the other side. Maybe then I'll be able to find something nicer to say about him. :blushing:

 

[Tuffy]

He told the media how the A's haven't lied about anything. He told the media that there was no duct tape. Brad is a liar. The monies he recieved for brokering the media deal is just the tip of the iceburg and he knows it. He has enabled the A's to continue their pathetic denial tour. He is just as much a media as the rest of them. I'm sick of people like him that think they are smarter than the rest of us by giving a few tid bits of information that he knows the public wants to hear and then expects to become the hero. A hero would have stopped the A's in the beginning. A hero would have instilled some respect for the deposition process to his clients. A hero would stop the A's finger pointing and conspiracy theories involving LE. A hero would have persued justice for Caylee. He is no hero. Barf

Well said coco puff. A hero would not have been sitting idly by these two for the past year and a half representing them for free, no less. He has enable their behavior for quite a while, and then, why does he step down? When he might be in trouble.

 

[Numbers]

Agreed, it may be misleading but pro bono means no charge for legal counsel not no money period. And I certainly have no sympathy for him, but that's what some attorneys do, no? NeJame gets lots sympathy yet he is looking to cash out with a book deal. I don't fault him for it. I think one can compose themself in an ethical way and still earn a living even if that means going on tv shows or writing a book.

I haven't quite decided how I feel about Conway yet. Do you think he's been with the A's for 19 months just for the money? Or could he really have thought he was helping people in need? I lean towards the former, but am still not sure - probably somewhere in between.

If pro bono means no charge for legal counsel, I don't understand your point. (Not being snide - I'm legally challenged.) If he got the $3K for brokering the deal with 48 Hours, how is that not legal counsel? If you asked him questions about the deal, he would claim attorney-client and stay mum. I doubt he got it for "sticking with them" or "being a good friend." It would take more than that to pry $3K out of Cindy's hands.

I think Brad may have had Good Intentions, but they were tempered by a dose of Get My Face in the News and a dollop of I Could Get Rich Later from the get-go. Perhaps the general lack of ethics presented by the players in this case has me somewhat jaded. Brad *now* acts as though he has taken the high road, yet he fails to mention that Cindy also accused him of arranging the conditional waiver which makes her as much a liar as Jose. His nose isn't 100% clean.

 

[LambChop]

The money CA gave BC may have been for some work that was done for them that BC paid for such as copies from the court, investigative work, etc. and did not necessarily go towards his basic fee. Personal money he had to pay for himself that they may have reimbursed him for. jmo

 

[Lanie]

I don't really buy any of the spin about brad being a good guy. He's clearly competent, not stupid, and knew Casey was/is guilty and knew the zanny story was absurd nonsense. How in the world can someone still remain attached to this circus on the side of the anthonys as thousands of people search and unknowingly waste 100k dollars and thousands of hours?? What is this person even thinking?? It's despicable and he should have either persuaded them to do the right thing (yeah right) or gotten away from them for his own conscience sake, and I'm assuming he had one.

I couldn't agree with this more, and I also have a problem with him coming out and doing an interview. G & C both kind of gag me, but that being said, BC chose to represent them, pro bono or not, and IMHO, if he had any decency at all, having left his position as their attorney, he (and NeJame as well) should keep his/their mouth shut about this case.

It's also my opinion, based on what BC said about the defense not using him and the A's more in the defense, that BC was using representing the A's as a backdoor to get on the defense team. Could be wrong, but this just leaves a bad taste in my mouth...

 

[ohiogirl]

I am thinking he is neither "hero" or "bad guy". Why should we look to attorneys as either one? They are just working their profession. Sometimes they end up representing good people and sometimes the opposite.
I guess it would be great to have a "hero" come out of this. But, I just don't think it's going to happen. The prosecutors will present their side, the defense will present their side, the outcome will be what it is.
Poor Caylee really has gotten lost in all of this.
A big THANK YOU for those who have memorialized her in any way. You are better people than any of those involved in this case, imo.

 

[Steely Dan]

He told the media how the A's haven't lied about anything. He told the media that there was no duct tape. Brad is a liar. The monies he recieved for brokering the media deal is just the tip of the iceburg and he knows it. He has enabled the A's to continue their pathetic denial tour. He is just as much a media as the rest of them. I'm sick of people like him that think they are smarter than the rest of us by giving a few tid bits of information that he knows the public wants to hear and then expects to become the hero. A hero would have stopped the A's in the beginning. A hero would have instilled some respect for the deposition process to his clients. A hero would stop the A's finger pointing and conspiracy theories involving LE. A hero would have persued justice for Caylee. He is no hero. Barf

:clap:

It is entirely possible, and even likely, that Brad was paid BY CBC and NOT by the Anthony family, thereby making his statement that he worked for them pro-bono and received no money from THEM a truthful statement. He may have made some other money OFF of this, but not FROM them...Make sense? :waitasec:

Regardless, I cannot wait to see with whom they will replace him...

Mmmm, good thought but I don't buy it.

The money CA gave BC may have been for some work that was done for them that BC paid for such as copies from the court, investigative work, etc. and did not necessarily go towards his basic fee. Personal money he had to pay for himself that they may have reimbursed him for. jmo

That's a stretch, IMO. I really wish there would have been follow up on that during the interview.

 

[Meemom]

Will the A's new attorney be someone "kidfinders" recommends?? GA is so enamoured of them, this would be the icing on the cake. Then the media circus would ramp up again.....AAaarrrgh.....
jmo:banghead:

 

[logicalgirl]

I couldn't agree with this more, and I also have a problem with him coming out and doing an interview. G & C both kind of gag me, but that being said, BC chose to represent them, pro bono or not, and IMHO, if he had any decency at all, having left his position as their attorney, he (and NeJame as well) should keep his/their mouth shut about this case.

It's also my opinion, based on what BC said about the defense not using him and the A's more in the defense, that BC was using representing the A's as a backdoor to get on the defense team. Could be wrong, but this just leaves a bad taste in my mouth...

I agree with you re the bad taste - if Brad supported the Anthony's as a friend, that is one thing, but as an attorney? Really? Show me where Cindy has tempered her behavior or her comments because of his influence? Surely he could have explained to Cindy, the nurse, just exactly what DNA is? And he could have explained the evidence we have seen, instead of going along with her wild stories. He was at it again - listen to the evidence in court instead of just the evidence we have seen re the duct tape, as he continues with the bs act - no Brad - I think we all understand that when the flesh has fallen off remains, any duct stuck to that skin would not remain in place, but he had no comment about Dr. G, cutting the duct tape from poor Caylee's hair.

That is just a small part of what I could go on and on about - it seems to me he has had no influence at all on the Anthony's and has been sitting there as some kind of confidant instead of a lawyer.

And finally surely he pointed out to Cindy if she got on the stand and testified she thinks Caylee may still be alive, all she would be doing is discrediting her own testimony on everything else as she would be viewed as unstable, or was that the whole point in the first place? If she presents herself as a emotionally unstable, then her damaging 911 testimony wouldn't be taken seriously? Is that what Brad advised?

I'm not impressed with why he resigned. So you may have had to be a witness to some things your clients "misspoke"? Nothing new there Brad!

 

[magic-cat]

I think Mr. Conway has been wishing for some way to extricate himself from the Anthony clan since the money stopped rolling and he realized how badly they were thought of in the public eye and that reflected on HIM... who wants to hire the lawyer that was willing to represent THAT kind of fiasco? Obviously he did it for the media attention and notoriety AND money no doubt...and now that's all over? He is outta-there! I seriously doubt it was an issue of conscience...more like an escape hatch that suddenly came open in a sinking ship...

 

[Steely Dan]

I agree with you re the bad taste - if Brad supported the Anthony's as a friend, that is one thing, but as an attorney? Really? Show me where Cindy has tempered her behavior or her comments because of his influence? Surely he could have explained to Cindy, the nurse, just exactly what DNA is? And he could have explained the evidence we have seen, instead of going along with her wild stories. He was at it again - listen to the evidence in court instead of just the evidence we have seen re the duct tape, as he continues with the bs act - no Brad - I think we all understand that when the flesh has fallen off remains, any duct stuck to that skin would not remain in place, but he had no comment about Dr. G, cutting the duct tape from poor Caylee's hair.

That is just a small part of what I could go on and on about - it seems to me he has had no influence at all on the Anthony's and has been sitting there as some kind of confidant instead of a lawyer.

And finally surely he pointed out to Cindy if she got on the stand and testified she thinks Caylee may still be alive, all she would be doing is discrediting her own testimony on everything else as she would be viewed as unstable, or was that the whole point in the first place? If she presents herself as a emotionally unstable, then her damaging 911 testimony wouldn't be taken seriously? Is that what Brad advised?

I'm not impressed with why he resigned. So you may have had to be a witness to some things your clients "misspoke"? Nothing new there Brad!

Yeah, thanks to you guys that have pointed out all the stuff about him. I was going a little soft on him but you've reminded me what he's really all about.

As far as CA goes he got what he deserved.

 

[tlcya]

I am thinking he is neither "hero" or "bad guy". Why should we look to attorneys as either one? They are just working their profession. Sometimes they end up representing good people and sometimes the opposite.
I guess it would be great to have a "hero" come out of this. But, I just don't think it's going to happen. The prosecutors will present their side, the defense will present their side, the outcome will be what it is.
Poor Caylee really has gotten lost in all of this.
A big THANK YOU for those who have memorialized her in any way. You are better people than any of those involved in this case, imo.

Here here, wellspoke ohio. Attorneys are not supposed to be heros. They are supposed to represent their clients. Sometimes very unpopular ones. Sometimes very guilty ones. I work for and with attorneys every day. Never yet seen one wearing a cape. Never yet met one who would want to. They just want to do their jobs.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I think Mr. Conway has been wishing for some way to extricate himself from the Anthony clan since the money stopped rolling and he realized how badly they were thought of in the public eye and that reflected on HIM... who wants to hire the lawyer that was willing to represent THAT kind of fiasco? Obviously he did it for the media attention and notoriety AND money no doubt...and now that's all over? He is outta-there! I seriously doubt it was an issue of conscience...more like an escape hatch that suddenly came open in a sinking ship...

It is interesting that now everyone's broke, "indigent", in foreclosure and facing bankruptcy, that Lyon and Conway jumped ship. I don't believe for one second that Conway didn't get a good portion of the disgusting blood money the Anthonys got their hands on and then he goes around mincing words about not being paid for an interview, when the Anthonys get 20k for "Licensing". Brad is no honorable good guy at all.

 

[sayd]

If pro bono means no charge for legal counsel, I don't understand your point. (Not being snide - I'm legally challenged.) If he got the $3K for brokering the deal with 48 Hours, how is that not legal counsel? If you asked him questions about the deal, he would claim attorney-client and stay mum. I doubt he got it for "sticking with them" or "being a good friend." It would take more than that to pry $3K out of Cindy's hands.

I think Brad may have had Good Intentions, but they were tempered by a dose of Get My Face in the News and a dollop of I Could Get Rich Later from the get-go. Perhaps the general lack of ethics presented by the players in this case has me somewhat jaded. Brad *now* acts as though he has taken the high road, yet he fails to mention that Cindy also accused him of arranging the conditional waiver which makes her as much a liar as Jose. His nose isn't 100% clean.

I think there is a huge difference between an attorney charging a fee for their service vs charging for actual expenses. It wouldn't surprise me if the $3000 could have been a reimbursement for Brad's actual expenses?

 

[Solace]

I tried to listen to the interview and it just keeps buffering. Just one thing - can anyone tell me exactly what Brad said about "not" believing the Zanny story - verbatim. Very interested. Thanks so much.