Two separate people who are on the witness list have come forth and given reports of the defense PI rather blatantly witness tampering. (Lying to a witness in order to get them to give a desired story is a huge nono for a PI or the defense). It really will not matter if TES files a formal complaint. These are already people on the witness list. The prosecution can call them to tell this story at trial in order to rebut the defense claims and undercut ANY work done by the defense investigators. While there may be some people who may view RK as a point of doubt (reasonable or otherwise) this goes a huge way to the prosecution disarming that. It basically lets them say in open court, proven or otherwise that the defense are outright lying, and present independent witnesses to back it up. That's devastating.
And given that the PI in question is the same one that went after HHJS, and apparently has a bit of a trail of sleaze, I would not expect HHBP to suppress any of it.
I appreciate all that you do for us here! This is the most reassuring post of the year! I recall Judge Perry (I will find the tape). Baez complaining about something he perceived as unfair that the prosecution did. The judge literally cut him off mid sentence, with (paraphrasing) look....I believe in sanctions. If you have some evidence of wrong doing, file it in a motion, and I WILL address it. I believe in sanctioning either side! I would not want to be the one who gets caught going outside of the rules.
The thing I know is that this particular judge is held in high esteem by ALL of the lawyers that publicly opine about him, and they all concur he is a no nonsense, serious, play by the rules kind of judge. One does not enjoy that type of reputation for making empty threats.
What I notice about him is he does his homework, he walks into court with the Supreme Court decisions he will be relying upon when he announces his ruling. He knows he is on solid ground and he rules with confidence, swiftly. I do not imagine if it is brought to him in a motion he will refuse to have a hearing on the matter. Absent that, and possibly more effective for the prosecutors is what you propose. Get the witnesses on the stand to set out in front of the jury that the defense investigator was tampering with them and that will taint the entire defense attorney credibility.
I imagine the demographic of folks who can serve for possibly months away from their family and jobs, sequestered to be older, with life experience, people that have worked hard all of their lives, who have the common sense and street sense of my grandparents who can see bs a mile away.:sick::furious:
I liken it to parenting. The kids in a family know, without question, if their parents follow through on their threats, unlike the parents who say, I am going to count to three, why aren't you listening, next time...yada yada yada and never follow through. I don't think Judge Perry would shy away from taking this seriously, not for this trial and not for the message it sends.
We have six months left, the chances of him signaling that for the next six months he is going to put up with illegal actions going on in this case is literally zero in my opinion.
What is interesting also is this man, Mr. Lyon, has been outed now, publicly. If he were to remain on the case, and knock on someone's door now, his bad reputation precedes him. Effectively, he is done.
The good , great news is despite his attempts he got no where with this. Nowhere. The truth prevails.
If the consequences for his actions cannot be criminal charges until after the trial;but, the sleazy things he did on behalf of the defense are brought out in front of the jury it is going to be great for justice for little Caylee. When folks do desperate things, it sends the message that the reason they are desperate is that they do not have the truth on their side. The good, hard working taxpayers of the jury will recognize what is painfully obvious.
I wanted to tell you thank you for all you do here. It helps us exhale.
Mark Nejame, in April of 2010
"Nejame says Perry will also be strict when it comes to handling any bad behavior by attorneys in the courtroom.
"He will simply lay people out," said Nejame. "He'll likely give people a chance to correct their behavior, and then he won't tolerate it again. He will not be shy to impose sanctions."
Update...I found it:
*Julia Caylee file
Defense emergency hearing
Published : Friday, 02 Jul 2010, 6:17 PM EDT
STUART CAMPBELL | FOX 35 News
ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - At the conclusion of an emergency hearing over a motion filed by attorneys for Casey Anthony, Jose Baez questioned the State's motive in releasing 5,000 pages of jail letters as evidence. He said the release of the documents came as a surprise to the defense, as the media has received and published them before he was even notified.
Earlier, Judge Belvin Perry, Jr. denied a motion filed by attorneys for Casey Anthony to appoint a Special Magistrate during the inspection of evidence with expert witnesses later this month. The defense had asked that the Special Magistrate oversee the witnesses as they look over discovery items, currently in the possession of the Orange County Sheriff's Office.
READ MORE: Judge Perry denies motion >>>
It was at the end of the hearing that the lead attorney for Anthony raised concern over jail letters sent to their client at the Orange County Jail.
Baez complained again that this case has become too public. He said his client should be able to get letters and phone calls from her family without everyone knowing about it.
Baez also pointed out that, "There is no security risk in these letters, so there is no issue. There is no issue period. You are cutting a person out from the outside world that they know of and I think that is cruel and unusual punishment, period.
Judge Perry reminded Baez that the public record laws are wide open in Florida, but said both sides need to play by the rules set by his court.
Baez said his team will now have to review all of the letters and possibly interview subjects. "These people either need to be spoken to, we need to figure out what relevance they have to this case, how the State plans on using it against our client," he said.
"If the State contends that,' Oh, we're just turning things over. We don't plan on using it,' then we've got another issue of attempting to embarrass our client."
Have you filed a motion for sanctions?" asked Perry. "Only on one occasion," Baez said with hesitation,"No, I have not."
"When you were here at the last status hearing, I strongly urged the State of Florida to inventory the Orange County Sheriff's department investigative files, just to deal with issues you have mentioned," said Judge Perry.
Baez acknowledged that jail personnel have the privilege and obligation to review jail letters, but contended that the motive behind the release of the letters was questionable. He also argued that the State is not communicating effectively which documents would be released according to deadlines set forth by Judge Perry.
Judge Perry noted that, "If there are violations of the rules, I believe in sanctioning people."
This is the hearing where Judge Perry set it out there he is not taking it lightly if folks do not obey the rules.
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Judge Belvin Perry, "My only concern is that your client AND the State of Florida BOTH get a fair trial."
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