2011.01.25 Baez Unavailability and Correspondence

  • #161
May have been mentioned...but I notice, ICA's childish "crush", Garcia has been removed from the "Baez Firm" line up ?? Is this something I missed...probably....LOL

If I am not mistaken, he left the firm well over a year ago? :waitasec:


He "got" while the "getting" was "good"......:crazy:
 
  • #162
If I am not mistaken, he left the firm well over a year ago? :waitasec:


He "got" while the "getting" was "good"......:crazy:

Smart, smart man there. I bet he is STILL thankful he got away from this case. I bet Casey misses him something awful, though.
 
  • #163
Smart, smart man there. I bet he is STILL thankful he got away from this case. I bet Casey misses him something awful, though.

I'm sure he was well past his expiration date with her by now. And loyalty was not one of her virtues.
 
  • #164
His Honor is making sure this trial stays on course for the May 9, 2011 start and Baez has the audacity to ask that this pretrial come to a halt since he will be unavailable for those days.

He should remember he is only the "lead" attorney on file but one that is not DP qualified. The other two attornies can fill him in when he comes back but he really shouldn't be taking one day off, this is a serious case which demands his full attention but he doesn't get that, does he?

I doubt very much His Honor will abide by his insane request. Each time it appears he shows more and more how full of himself he is and how truly inept he is. :maddening:

Money was his driving force. I do believe he thought he'd get this prisoner a million bucks to use towards her defense...I still feel it was HE who brokered the deal to gain monetarily from Caylee's blood.

I believe he should have stepped aside once a DP charge was placed on this prisoner. He claimed the DP was only placed on this case to get him booted off...Same when he wanted the SA's booted off as well. I believe he is still as unethical as he was when it took 8 years to fix what the Florida Bar Association held against him, he's still the same person...but more defined in his elaborate tales...I'll never understand how someone would break the law in the name of upholding the law...seems like an oxymoron to me...as always, JMHO

Justice for Caylee

I'm not sure if this was a rumor or not, but I remember hearing about JB trying to get a deal made with a Network for an exclusive interview with Miss Casey Anthony herself... the asking price? $500,000.00!
 
  • #165
I'm not sure if this was a rumor or not, but I remember hearing about JB trying to get a deal made with a Network for an exclusive interview with Miss Casey Anthony herself... the asking price? $500,000.00!

Isn't it going to be with Geraldo and his mustache?
 
  • #166
I'm not sure if this was a rumor or not, but I remember hearing about JB trying to get a deal made with a Network for an exclusive interview with Miss Casey Anthony herself... the asking price? $500,000.00!

What would be the point? Pre-trial she would defer every pertinent question to JB, who would recite the 'We can't address that now but wait for the trial' routine - and if it was post-conviction, who cares?
 
  • #167
I'm not sure if this was a rumor or not, but I remember hearing about JB trying to get a deal made with a Network for an exclusive interview with Miss Casey Anthony herself... the asking price? $500,000.00!

What would be the point? Pre-trial she would defer every pertinent question to JB, who would recite the 'We can't address that now but wait for the trial' routine - and if it was post-conviction, who cares?

I agree Zsa Zsa... there would be no point to a pre-trial interview... and probably not a wise move anyway on the part of the defendant and her attorneys. (But then I guess no one has actually called any of them WISE......)

My question to anyone who knows is this: If she were allowed to do an interview after she is convicted, first off, she cannot make money from her crime, right? So when we see these convicted criminals do interviews after they are convicted, do the networks just get them for free? Can any money be given to KC's family? Or would the State have a right to it since the State paid for her defense?

I hope this all makes sense.

TIA!
 
  • #168
My question to anyone who knows is this: If she were allowed to do an interview after she is convicted, first off, she cannot make money from her crime, right? So when we see these convicted criminals do interviews after they are convicted, do the networks just get them for free? Can any money be given to KC's family? Or would the State have a right to it since the State paid for her defense?

I hope this all makes sense.

TIA!

<snip>

Snaz, this would be a really good question for the attorney thread. I know that certain states have enacted laws forbidding a convicted murderer (or maybe any convicted felon.. :waitasec:) from profitting from their crimes via book deals, media appearances, etc... However, I am not sure if it there is any federal legislation or how far it extends (e.g.,. family), etc...

I am pretty sure the State would have no rights to any money though.
 
  • #169
His Honor is making sure this trial stays on course for the May 9, 2011 start and Baez has the audacity to ask that this pretrial come to a halt since he will be unavailable for those days.

He should remember he is only the "lead" attorney on file but one that is not DP qualified. The other two attornies can fill him in when he comes back but he really shouldn't be taking one day off, this is a serious case which demands his full attention but he doesn't get that, does he?

I doubt very much His Honor will abide by his insane request. Each time it appears he shows more and more how full of himself he is and how truly inept he is
. :maddening:

Money was his driving force. I do believe he thought he'd get this prisoner a million bucks to use towards her defense...I still feel it was HE who brokered the deal to gain monetarily from Caylee's blood.

I believe he should have stepped aside once a DP charge was placed on this prisoner. He claimed the DP was only placed on this case to get him booted off...Same when he wanted the SA's booted off as well. I believe he is still as unethical as he was when it took 8 years to fix what the Florida Bar Association held against him, he's still the same person...but more defined in his elaborate tales...I'll never understand how someone would break the law in the name of upholding the law...seems like an oxymoron to me...as always, JMHO

Justice for Caylee

I totally agree and see where you're coming from.

I have read on another thread that Judge P can cancel (if that's the right word) Baez's Notice of Unavailability, assuming--as likely is the case--that the time off is for a vacation.

If this cancellation is possible, I hope Judge P will take steps. It seems so unfair and illogical that Baez can take time off, ask for an additional 45 days (or more) extension, and still fail to meet pending deadlines.

I am not altogether sure that money is the primary motivation, though it certainly is strong.

Faefrost posted a very illuminating "diagnosis" (my wording):
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6060632&postcount=36"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2011.01.25 Defense Requests More Time to Submit Expert Reports[/ame]

Here's another theory that might add further illumination about Baez's refusal to take second chair and his mucking about...

Excerpted from an older article at 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬:

As some bloggers have asked, why are they going through all of this as the defense depose experts and analyze forensic evidence? The reason (method) is not to help Casey but to help Baez himself to attain the status of being a &#8216;&#8217;qualified&#8221; death penalty attorney.

The Florida checklist requires an attorney to have experience with expert witnesses & evidence.

Such qualficiations & experience gained will lead to a successful &#8216;&#8217;future&#8217;&#8217; for Baez while Casey most likely will be sitting on death row.
http://www.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.com/2010/09/the-method-behind-jose-baezs-madness/
 
  • #170
I totally agree and see where you're coming from.

I have read on another thread that Judge P can cancel (if that's the right word) Baez's Notice of Unavailability, assuming--as likely is the case--that the time off is for a vacation.

If this cancellation is possible, I hope Judge P will take steps. It seems so unfair and illogical that Baez can take time off, ask for an additional 45 days (or more) extension, and still fail to meet pending deadlines.

I am not altogether sure that money is the primary motivation, though it certainly is strong.

Faefrost posted a very illuminating "diagnosis" (my wording):
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2011.01.25 Defense Requests More Time to Submit Expert Reports

Here's another theory that might add further illumination about Baez's refusal to take second chair and his mucking about...

Excerpted from an older article at 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬:






http://www.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.com/2010/09/the-method-behind-jose-baezs-madness/

Jeebus. That is all the state of Florida needs is Baez to be DP qualified! I really hope that doesn't happen!
 
  • #171
I agree with what you are saying but if I were a person who committed a serious crime I would want an attorney who looked under every rock, delayed my trial and pretty much upset applecarts to keep me from prison even though he knew I was guity as sin. His methods leave a lot to be desired but he's managed to delay this trial for almost three years and publicly announced that someone else put the body there. KC has nothing to complain about. Now you and I, we have a lot of problems with him. lol

This is a well thought out and comforting post! It makes me feel better knowing that so many things that have been done and are being done will keep KC from getting certain appeals. How can she claim ineffective council when he has done everything, including ruining his own career, to get her off? As always, Lambchop, you are a voice of calm and reason.
 
  • #172
I agree Zsa Zsa... there would be no point to a pre-trial interview... and probably not a wise move anyway on the part of the defendant and her attorneys. (But then I guess no one has actually called any of them WISE......)

My question to anyone who knows is this: If she were allowed to do an interview after she is convicted, first off, she cannot make money from her crime, right? So when we see these convicted criminals do interviews after they are convicted, do the networks just get them for free? Can any money be given to KC's family? Or would the State have a right to it since the State paid for her defense?

I hope this all makes sense.

TIA!

This $500,000.00 interview was being talked about before Casey was indicted in October 2008. I just know that there was talk, back then, about Casey getting a lot of money for an exclusive interview that they were trying to make happen.

She can not make money off of her crime once convicted. No interviews for money. No books for money. No movies for money. She can not sell pictures of her victim. Videos of her victim, etc...

Cindy and George are going to try and make as much money as they possibly can after this trial is over. They will be writing books, pitching movie deals, charging to speak at public events, etc... the easiet way to put a stop to this becoming a huge financial gain for them, it to not buy what they are selling. Companies are not going to buy into something that they can't sell... it is our job to make sure Cindy and George have nothing to sell.
 
  • #173
<snip>

Snaz, this would be a really good question for the attorney thread. I know that certain states have enacted laws forbidding a convicted murderer (or maybe any convicted felon.. :waitasec:) from profitting from their crimes via book deals, media appearances, etc... However, I am not sure if it there is any federal legislation or how far it extends (e.g.,. family), etc...

I am pretty sure the State would have no rights to any money though.

RBM

Are you sure? Florida is coughing up a whoooooooole lotta smackers for her defense. I'm sure they'd like it all back if she suddenly turns out to be no longer indigent.

[Honest question. I don't know the answer.]
 
  • #174
RBM

Are you sure? Florida is coughing up a whoooooooole lotta smackers for her defense. I'm sure they'd like it all back if she suddenly turns out to be no longer indigent.

[Honest question. I don't know the answer.]

No, I'm not 100% sure. I just can't recall any state recouping any funds in past similar instances.
 
  • #175
This $500,000.00 interview was being talked about before Casey was indicted in October 2008. I just know that there was talk, back then, about Casey getting a lot of money for an exclusive interview that they were trying to make happen.

She can not make money off of her crime once convicted. No interviews for money. No books for money. No movies for money. She can not sell pictures of her victim. Videos of her victim, etc...

Cindy and George are going to try and make as much money as they possibly can after this trial is over. They will be writing books, pitching movie deals, charging to speak at public events, etc... the easiet way to put a stop to this becoming a huge financial gain for them, it to not buy what they are selling. Companies are not going to buy into something that they can't sell... it is our job to make sure Cindy and George have nothing to sell.

iirc, Baez mentioned waaay back(iirc sept 2008) when questioned about money that he had received several offers for an exclusive interview with Casey...more than $1 million... Baez refused...

Found it!!!!
Here is a link to an article..
http://www.wesh.com/r/17432283/detail.html
Casey Anthony Offered More Than $1M To Tell Story, September 9 2008
"A defense fund is also in the process of being established for her."


Casey's bond was $500,000 and after Padilla revoked the bond and she went back to jail... someone or some organization paid to bail Casey out of jail again..
 
  • #176
iirc, Baez mentioned waaay back(iirc sept 2008) when questioned about money that he had received several offers for an exclusive interview with Casey...more than $1 million... Baez refused...

Found it!!!!
Here is a link to an article..
http://www.wesh.com/r/17432283/detail.html
Casey Anthony Offered More Than $1M To Tell Story, September 9 2008
"A defense fund is also in the process of being established for her."


Casey's bond was $500,000 and after Padilla revoked the bond and she went back to jail... someone or some organization paid to bail Casey out of jail again..

Great find, Intermezzo!!

My personal favorite:
The lawyer for Cindy and George Anthony said they are not considering any similar offers.

They must've changed their minds, huh? :innocent:
 
  • #177
Still no correspondence from the SA or HHJBP regarding the DT's ludicrous motion.

Does anyone have an idea what could be happening?
Has HHJP called Baez to give him a heads up on his ruling?
Has JA or LDB just ignored Baez's motion and threw their hands up in frustration?

IIRC, Mr Ashton had Defense expert witnesses lined up for depositions. And had relied on the 20 day time limit.

~L~ I'm so impatient.
 
  • #178
This $500,000.00 interview was being talked about before Casey was indicted in October 2008. I just know that there was talk, back then, about Casey getting a lot of money for an exclusive interview that they were trying to make happen.

She can not make money off of her crime once convicted. No interviews for money. No books for money. No movies for money. She can not sell pictures of her victim. Videos of her victim, etc...

Cindy and George are going to try and make as much money as they possibly can after this trial is over. They will be writing books, pitching movie deals, charging to speak at public events, etc... the easiet way to put a stop to this becoming a huge financial gain for them, it to not buy what they are selling. Companies are not going to buy into something that they can't sell... it is our job to make sure Cindy and George have nothing to sell.

You know, Lola, your post made me think. Most of the time, while KC was out on bond, she was at JB's office. Who knows, but perhaps JB and KC have already made audio or video tapes during that time which JB will have to use at his discretion after the trial. They may even have made a deal; if KC goes to jail, he gets to use them to raise money for his own payment and her appeals, and if he can get her off, they split the money from those tapes. This would sound ridiculous under normal circumstances, but, as we have seen, JB does things his way, not the moral/right way. moo
 
  • #179
You know, Lola, your post made me think. Most of the time, while KC was out on bond, she was at JB's office. Who knows, but perhaps JB and KC have already made audio or video tapes during that time which JB will have to use at his discretion after the trial. They may even have made a deal; if KC goes to jail, he gets to use them to raise money for his own payment and her appeals, and if he can get her off, they split the money from those tapes. This would sound ridiculous under normal circumstances, but, as we have seen, JB does things his way, not the moral/right way. moo

Oh, I don't think JB would be allowed to do that. He claimed under oath there were no deals for books or movies. He couldn't broker that deal for KC and yet ABC said he did. So that could be a problem for him down the road don't you think??
 
  • #180
Still no correspondence from the SA or HHJBP regarding the DT's ludicrous motion.

Does anyone have an idea what could be happening?
Has HHJP called Baez to give him a heads up on his ruling?
Has JA or LDB just ignored Baez's motion and threw their hands up in frustration?

IIRC, Mr Ashton had Defense expert witnesses lined up for depositions. And had relied on the 20 day time limit.

~L~ I'm so impatient.

I truly expected something from the judge or state today. Wonder why nothing, so far? Both the judge and the state seem to be wise to doing things in writing through the clerk and not giving Baez et al verbal stuff. It is very odd to me nothing has been filed today.
 

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