2011.02.19 - Desiree puts on the pressure in Roseburg

[Chablis]

Respectfully, BBM. Yes, I find this interesting as well, cuz TH has said what she was doing that day, though many don't believe her.

Well, driving around trying to soothe a sick child that you later dump into a germ filled gym daycare center, really isnt a good alibi, not on a day your stepson you hated goes missing.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

I am confused by the statement that TH was the 'last person to see him.'

Weren't there people at the school who saw him after she left?

LE has stated that they beleive th was the last known person to see kyron. gates pc june 18th.

 

[gitana1]

. . . . unless he feels a tainted jury pool would hinder a fair trial.

That is his #1 goal, a fair trial, whether his client is guilty or innocent. I read that here right after he entered the case.

If and when this case goes to trial, he's going to argue she can't get a fair trial and the worst that could happen as a result is a change of venue. I believe Th is very unlikely to sue DY for harassment and I can pretty much guarantee there will be no libel suit against DY.

 

[scandi]

LE has stated that they beleive th was the last known person to see kyron. gates pc june 18th.

Was that the same presser where LE concentrated on the white truck and where it was possibly parked by the school?

In that presser, LE did state they had witnessing of the truck being seen on Skyline Rd between 2 other roads at 10:30am. I'll go find that video to clarify what they said exactly.

Also, in the email KOIN got which was written by TH, she admitted driving on Hwy #30 that morning. It was written so early in the case I bet she never realized the document would become a fixture in the case. It well could be she told the truth about that as there was a witness who said he saw a red head in a truck like the Horman's pull out onto Hwy #30.

And there wasn't just the ping on SI, but also at the site of the recent searches.

I bet LE has a pretty good idea of where she drove that morning. IMO




ETA: This timeline is excellent and points out what LE and witnesses said:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/KH/khtimeline.pdf

 

[daisy7]

Well, driving around trying to soothe a sick child that you later dump into a germ filled gym daycare center, really isnt a good alibi, not on a day your stepson you hated goes missing.

It may not be a good alibi and dropping the baby at the daycare at the gym may not be what some of us would do. But, this is what TH said she did that day, so I don't understand why Desiree says that TH refuses to account for what she did that day in the new flier.

She will not explain her whereabouts on the day he went missing

 

[ThoughtFox]

I thought I saw an interview with his good friend and classmate, who saw him that morning, and said Kyron was going to look at another exhibit.

The point is, no one knows if that happened before or after Terri left the school. She didn't mention any other kids with him as she watched him walking to class. It's only Terri who mentioned him being seen with a "male chaperone" or somebody in her email about that day, but that's just coming from her her.

The timeline isn't as clear as TH makes it out to be.

And LE has never wavered in their statement that TH was the last person to see Kyron alive.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Me either, I mean the sexting and nasty pics she sent of her body to that guy probably would upset the public and taint the jury pool more than a grieving obviously devastated mother putting up fliers trying to find her baby boy. I cant see Terris lawyer even wanting to fight this.

. . . . unless he feels a tainted jury pool would hinder a fair trial.

That is his #1 goal, a fair trial, whether his client is guilty or innocent. I read that here right after he entered the case.

I can see a judge wondering which causes more "taint" ~ the sexting and murder for hire, all connected to Terri's phone, or things said in anger by Desiree as a mother who wants answers about Kyron.

Desiree is a sympathetic grieving mother. For any attorney to go after her would be utter madness and a jury would never reward TH (or her attorney) anything for doing that.

 

[ThoughtFox]

It may not be a good alibi and dropping the baby at the daycare at the gym may not be what some of us would do. But, this is what TH said she did that day, so I don't understand why Desiree says that TH refuses to account for what she did that day in the new flier.

I think because TH was so vague about where she went "driving around" even after they told her about the cell phone pings.

No one is that forgetful, especially on a day when a child goes missing.

I think there's stuff we don't know about that doesn't add up too, perhaps about that afternoon before Kaine got there and why TH didn't mention taking the truck to pick up Kyron's science fair project. There's something wrong with that picture. JMO

 

[cluciano63]

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/101722828.html

This article does say "last known adult" to see Kyron, but who knows if that means anything...
I don't know what to make of the statements we've seen from at least two children. But plenty of children have testified in criminal trials over the years and we may, sadly, see that happen here, if there is ever a trial.

 

[nosysw]

Respectfully, BBM. Yes, I find this interesting as well, cuz TH has said what she was doing that day, though many don't believe her.

I just keep thinking maybe DY knows something we don't from LE...By saying she won't clarify her whereabouts she means that what TH said has been discredited but she hasn't given a subsequent alibi that has been verifiable.

I'm convinced that LE has made known to DY some information that we don't have. Maybe this is part of it...KWIM?...

 

[Chablis]

It may not be a good alibi and dropping the baby at the daycare at the gym may not be what some of us would do. But, this is what TH said she did that day, so I don't understand why Desiree says that TH refuses to account for what she did that day in the new flier.

Because driving around is not a good enough alibi, Terri is not some dainty lady that we should all just be trusting of her word and how dare we question her, her word is not good enough here. Saying that you drove around, when there is a missing child really really is not acceptable. And normal people dont drive around a child for an hour and a half and then check into a gym and expose the baby to germs and others, that coincidentally has showers used by hundreds of people a day. Not on a day when the step child of hers went missing.

 

[MsFacetious]

How many times have we sat here and been upset by mother's who do not stand up for their kids?

Who do not seem terribly bothered by their disappearance.

Who do not fight to find them.

Who do not seem terribly upset when they are found.

Who do not fight for justice.

Desiree is doing what a mother should do. I'm sure she has made a few mistakes along the way, it's not like she was an expert at this.

However, Desiree Young and Beth Twitty have handled it better than anyone I can think of. They were heartbroken, angry and scared and they showed all of the above.

I really think that they have been suspected and criticized the least. People should refer to them as examples when their child goes missing.

If I was ever in this situation, I would immediately look to Desiree and Beth for how to handle the media. I think they have done an amazing job and handled it wonderfully under pressure.

Desiree going to Terri's neighborhood to do this reminds me a little of Beth going to Peru.

Is it the absolutely best thing to do? Maybe not.

Does anyone have a better suggestion besides sitting there doing nothing? Probably not.

 

[gwenabob]

I thought I saw an interview with his good friend and classmate, who saw him that morning, and said Kyron was going to look at another exhibit.

I think LE has concluded the boy was mistaken or confused. I don't think TH left without Kyron. She may have walked out of the building and moved the car, but when she finally left, he left as well.

 

[gwenabob]

It may not be a good alibi and dropping the baby at the daycare at the gym may not be what some of us would do. But, this is what TH said she did that day, so I don't understand why Desiree says that TH refuses to account for what she did that day in the new flier.

Perhaps LE has been able to verify that Terri is lying about her alibi. Maybe she never showed up at the gym at all. Just because she laid out an alibi doesn't mean she is telling the truth.

 

[Shadowboy]

I just keep thinking maybe DY knows something we don't from LE...By saying she won't clarify her whereabouts she means that what TH said has been discredited but she hasn't given a subsequent alibi that has been verifiable.

I'm convinced that LE has made known to DY some information that we don't have. Maybe this is part of it...KWIM?...

BBM. ITA. DY has, evidently, heard nothing from LE to shake her conviction re: TH's guilt. If that's the case, we can probably assume there remain many holes in TH's alibi, in spite of what MSM has reported (and in spite of testimony from one GJ witness). At one point (a LOOoong time ago) DY mentioned a 3-hour window for which TH could not account. If TH’s story about the 9 am to 10 am time frame didn’t check out, that window could be 8:30 to 11:30. Not to get too far OT, but DY, without question, knows more than we do. If she says a stranger didn’t take Ky; Ky didn’t wander off; and TH’s story is questionable … I believe her.

 

[gwenabob]

How many times have we sat here and been upset by mother's who do not stand up for their kids?

Who do not seem terribly bothered by their disappearance.

Who do not fight to find them.

Who do not seem terribly upset when they are found.

Who do not fight for justice.

Desiree is doing what a mother should do. I'm sure she has made a few mistakes along the way, it's not like she was an expert at this.

However, Desiree Young and Beth Twitty have handled it better than anyone I can think of. They were heartbroken, angry and scared and they showed all of the above.

I really think that they have been suspected and criticized the least. People should refer to them as examples when their child goes missing.

If I was ever in this situation, I would immediately look to Desiree and Beth for how to handle the media. I think they have done an amazing job and handled it wonderfully under pressure.

Desiree going to Terri's neighborhood to do this reminds me a little of Beth going to Peru.

Is it the absolutely best thing to do? Maybe not.

Does anyone have a better suggestion besides sitting there doing nothing? Probably not.

Bravo!!! Thank you for saying this!! :clap: :blowkiss:

 

[Chablis]

BBM. ITA. DY has, evidently, heard nothing from LE to shake her conviction re: TH's guilt. If that's the case, we can probably assume there remain many holes in TH's alibi, in spite of what MSM has reported (and in spite of testimony from one GJ witness). At one point (a LOOoong time ago) DY mentioned a 3-hour window for which TH could not account. If TH’s story about the 9 am to 10 am time frame didn’t check out, that window could be 8:30 to 11:30. Not to get too far OT, but DY, without question, knows more than we do. If she says a stranger didn’t take Ky; Ky didn’t wander off; and TH’s story is questionable … I believe her.

Exactly. This is not about DY going off and doing this because she has no reasons to doubt Terri. Terri has been a nightmare since she first entered her life, and now there is a very good chance that Terri killed her child, and cops have shared a lot with Desiree, hopefully they spared her seeing the sexy pics that Terri was sending Kaines friend, in a relationship she struck up with him days after Kyron went missing. Of all men in the world, Terri goes for one of Kaines friends. There is no compassion whatsoever for Kaine, even if she hated him, you would think she still would feel bad for him about Kyron, but she just twisted the knife in even more, and then she doesn't even fight for her own daughter, and we hear she may be going out to bars?

Terri followed true crime and watched all these crime shows, it really is disturbing to me that on the last day Kyron was probably alive he was in a CSI shirt, that really bothers me, the picture she took of him, his last picture..... Also, I wonder how closely Terri followed the Casey Anthony case because she really makes Casey look meek.

 

[Peliman]

Until TH is cleared which could be done by cooperating with LE, I find all this an interesting courageous development.

I'd even :applause: if Desiree had an airplane fly a banner over Roseburg.

ASK TERRY WHERE KYRON IS?

Course I'd never want to encourage such a thing. <g>

 

[Aedrys]

Wow, I login without expecting news as usual and see this. What guts and panache Desiree has. This isn't blowing over, Terri. Good for Desiree! She is my new hero, and I want to be Desiree when I grow up.

I am not worrying about Terri either. The worst this will cause is no more club tripping for her. It's hard to feel bad for her if she's living it up instead of actually suffering. Maybe this is the town's way of saying they don't approve. A kid is missing and she's out partying. Gee, who does that sound like?

 

[Kimster]

I missed the partying report? Can someone clue me in? :tyou: