2011.03.10-Billie and Shawn POI in the case per "Bring Them Home"

[grandmaj]

Well consider this. On the day of the show maybe it wasn't BD that contacted LE for an update, but rather that LE paid a visit to BD to investigate? BD didn't say she called LE.

With a criminal investigation ongoing it is possible that the reason BD wasn't forthcoming about the discussion with LE until pressed, is because it wasn't initiated by BD.

 

[grandmaj]

Guys...... please Peter H. Links and discussion not allowed here. We have allowed the discussion about the Bring Them Home show from Thursday. But as a rule no links or discussion about his blog.

We will decide on a case by case about future shows.

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[LisaB]

OR told by PH that he had seen the DA that day and was told that both Shawn and Billie were people of interest and that he was told they shouldnt be on the show? I really hope its not him who have given them that information but honestly..it wouldnt surprise me if it was

Something that occurred to me last night...Billie said she hadnt spoken to the police for two weeks but then said she had spoken to them yesterday. So which is the truth? and when exactly did the police supposedly show her the images from the pc or tell her there was no porn pics on the stick if she hadnt talked to them?

I never got the impression that she had said she had not spoken to LE in 2 weeks, just that the conversation 2 weeks ago was the one in which they revealed to her the reasons they believed Shawn was guilty. When asked when she LAST spoke with LE, she said it was the day of the program. Since she had also claimed to have spoken to them regarding the porn stick a few days earlier, I assumed that she spoke with them frequently, just to touch base (hence her comments that she had gotten no new information from LE "today" and that she had not provided any new information to them).

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Has LE ever stated that SA is the only POI or suspect in this case. I don't recall that they have, therefore, any and everyone could still be looked upon as POI as far as LE is concerned. LE did make mention at one point that BD was not a suspect at that time, now the time has come to include her as well. I'm not sure what happened at the BTH show but I would find it just off the charts incredible if the 2 hosts had any involvement in misrepresenting themselves or LE. They would have too much to lose and I just don't think they would knowingly jeopardize their show or their credibility for the likes of BD and SA. Either way, a whole lotta folks got to hear the true nature and a little bit of emotion from BD, something that has been conspicuously absent for the last several months. I do wish LE would have a real press conference to update the case and to clear up any rumors....I wont hold my breath though.

 

[LisaB]

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-10/

"Peter Hyatt: If someone said that they saw you in the last 48 hours with him, they would be lying?

Billie Jean Dunn: I guess."

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I noticed every single one of her answers prior to and after this were either "yeah", "no", "exactly", "right" or "I don't know." This is the only one she where she says, "I guess."

I figured SHE had been called a liar so often that the word was "sensitive" to her and without knowing who had made these accusations, she could not characterize them as a liar.

 

[grandmaj]

Don't forget the Grand Jury is supposed to sit this month and they will be looking at the child porn charges.

Now I have to go find a link, huh? Okay - I'll be in the media thread for a bit.

Salem

ETA: This article: http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27009657/detail.html

talks about gathering evidence for the Grand Jury, but doesn't say when. I thought I read somewhere the GJ would be sitting the 28th or so of March? Anyone else remember that?

Because this happened in two counties it has been stated that the Grand Jury in each County will convene. We heard a date stated by a local which was not printed in MSM but locals claim they heard on the news one county will convene on March 24th. We haven't had any indication about the second county as to date.

 

[mysticrose]

Still waiting for this "news" to hit msm about BD :waitasec: But I do find it of interest that LE hasn't come out refuting the claims, that says alot, no ?

 

[grandmaj]

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[LisaB]

I wouldn't think so. I can't think of any news event where a media outlet wasn't allowed to report something until another media outlet gave them permission. Why would BTHN have "control" over what a TV channel or newspaper can report? Freedom of the press, right?

In this case, it would be hard to report on the program since the information was vague, unattributed, and (apparently) unverifiable. I'm not sure how you'd write an article when you don't really even know what Billie was alleged to have lied to Bee about, and Peter seems a little... prone to sensationalism.

 

[LisaB]

I think it was the SA interview.... the hosts said that if anyone wanted to report on or reproduce it, they needed to ask permission, gave email and phone numbers. I don't remember hearing that disclaimer last night though? anyone else?

but you have a point lol I really don't know.

ETA: I really think that LE has asked locals NOT to say anything. The silence is killing us, I can imagine what it is doing to BD and SA.

Thanks for the reminder. They said they would have no problem with people doing so, they just wanted to be informed about it (when Shawn was on).

 

[grandmaj]

The only one who has stated that there was no Child Porn on the memory stick is Billie Dunn. In that investigator information is in contradiction from what she stated, I question that she spoke to them at all about this matter. She is subject to an investigation on child porn and bestiality.

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs confirmed Tuesday that a computer taken from Shawn Adkins' mother's home in Big Spring and a memory stick taken from the home shared by Hailey Dunn's mother, Billie Dunn, and Shawn Adkins in Colorado City both contained child pornography. Shawn Adkins is the only named suspect so far in Hailey's disappearance.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/20...ant-acts-investigation-continues/?partner=RSS

 

[LisaB]

Oh to be a fly on her wall...

Wonder what it would take for LE to wire her house?..or can they?

Billie has indicated that she does not have a computer or internet access. That should be pretty simple to figure out. If there's a bill for internet service at that address, we can safely assume she has not been entirely truthful. If there is no service billed to her address, she might still be able to connect illegally through a nearby unsecured WiFi connection. By sitting in front of her house with a laptop (or WiFi enabled cell phone) you would be able to determine if there was a WiFi device nearby, and certainly to narrow it down to the house it was inside.

There are programs (hacker-stuff) to turn on a computer's webcam and/or microphone remotely without the knowledge of the owner and spy on them. If the XBOX had the Kinect attachment, it can also be turned on remotely, allowing someone to see and hear what is going on in the house (EITHER of those houses). I wonder if the police can use something like that since the equipment is provided by the person of interest.

There's a little piece of software that is installed unknowingly by the computer's owner, by opening an email or accepting a file via instant messenger that enables the "spy" to log onto it remotely. I would not be surprised to learn there are legitimate programs that do the same thing (WITH the computer owner's knowledge) to allow parents to check in on their teens or babysitters when they have to be at work. IF something like that was installed on a computer at the Dunn residence, PRIOR to Hailey's disappearance, it could have captured images of Hailey when she thought she was alone in the house. If she was undressed, it would be illegal to have the images, and suggestive of someone with an unhealthy interest in Hailey, without being child porn in the traditional sense. That's a computer I would have ditched immediately if I thought LE was coming around to investigate my SOs missing daughter. I know there has been some speculation that a computer could have been removed from the house before LE became involved.

In the case of a video... can LE count each frame as a single still image? Could that explain the outrageous number of "images" on Shawn's mom's laptop? At 30 frames per second, 100,000 images is just under an hour of video.

Sorry for the randomness of this post.

 

[LisaB]

All in due time my dear...:floorlaugh:..

WTH is *due time* anyway, lol?

2-3 weeks depending on your library... :floorlaugh:

 

[grandmaj]

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/feb/24/deviant-images-found-computer-mother-suspect-case/

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The Dell Inspiron 530 computer contained "approximately 108,498 pictures depicting deviant acts," according to evidence seized after a search warrant issued in early January.

A memory stick confiscated from a dresser in the master bedroom of the Dunn residence in Colorado City was found to contain "320 images and videos of a pornographic nature."



I do not believe based on what we know from MSM, that it was one video. The above snip lists that there were 108,498 pictures on the computer. No mention of video.

The memory stick it is stated has "320 images and videos of a pornographic nature."

We don't know how many are of bestiality and child porn.

In my opinion even if only 1 percent of these pictures are of the deviant nature it is 1 percent too many considering we have a 13 year old girl missing and the people that she lived with are being investigated for having this material.

 

[LisaB]

...snip...

The gentleman that called in about the boat was very composed and seemed knowledgeable. I believe he even gave the address and where to find the "ad".
...snip...

I wonder if he could be the guy that bought it? Or at least looked at it. The fact that he knew that the phone number (which I guess was the house phone? wonder why Shawn did not use his cell number so he'd get the calls directly) connected with SA's Mom's address. Maybe when he called for directions, or even after he got there, he may have realized.

OTOH, I recommend ALWAYS doing a reverse lookup on Craigslist people before meeting them. At the least it can keep you from finding out that the item you just bought is a lot further away than you had thought, but in one case, it prevented me from meeting a man who was selling an ice cream maker because I googled the address he gave me and found he was a registered/violent/child sex offender.

 

[grandmaj]

I wonder if he could be the guy that bought it? Or at least looked at it. The fact that he knew that the phone number (which I guess was the house phone? wonder why Shawn did not use his cell number so he'd get the calls directly) connected with SA's Mom's address. Maybe when he called for directions, or even after he got there, he may have realized.

OTOH, I recommend ALWAYS doing a reverse lookup on Craigslist people before meeting them. At the least it can keep you from finding out that the item you just bought is a lot further away than you had thought, but in one case, it prevented me from meeting a man who was selling an ice cream maker because I googled the address he gave me and found he was a registered/violent/child sex offender.

Well if the boat belonged to an Uncle as Shawn said, why would Shawn's mother's number be used KWIM? Do we have 2 boats? Or two stories? Because I'd have to go back and check the transcript but I believe Shawn said it was sold a couple of years ago. :banghead:

 

[mck16]

I wonder if he could be the guy that bought it? Or at least looked at it. The fact that he knew that the phone number (which I guess was the house phone? wonder why Shawn did not use his cell number so he'd get the calls directly) connected with SA's Mom's address. Maybe when he called for directions, or even after he got there, he may have realized.

OTOH, I recommend ALWAYS doing a reverse lookup on Craigslist people before meeting them. At the least it can keep you from finding out that the item you just bought is a lot further away than you had thought, but in one case, it prevented me from meeting a man who was selling an ice cream maker because I googled the address he gave me and found he was a registered/violent/child sex offender.

I was listening to the radio show that night. Early in the show SA was asked about the boat. He told them that it had been sold and if I recall correctly he said it was sold a long time ago.

Then this man called in and offerred the information about the boat being on Craig's list. He even gave the link to the add. The add was a current advertisement. I looked at the add and information was all there just as this person had described when he called in.

I find it curious number one that the mods asked SA about the boat, and number two that this person just happened to be listening to the show.

If it was legitimate,and by all appearances it was, I think this revelation is huge. It is about the biggest thing to me that has been brought to light that could explain what happened to HD. Why was the boat suddenly sold? And why did SA lie about it? Has there been any more information brought out or any discussion in the media? tia

 

[grandmaj]

Host: In one of your videos, you have a boat.

Shawn Adkins: No, that’s not my boat. That’s a, my Uncle cody’s boat, and he sold that a few years back.

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hai...awn-adkins-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-3/

 

[LisaB]

I'm falling asleep sitting here waiting for something to happen. I refresh here and then refresh the "quake" sheet.......I need to either give up and go to bed, or drink a red bull. :waitasec:

I thought those were for housecleaning days...

 

[LisaB]

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=351846

Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Saturday, March 12 2011

"The live-in boyfriend of Hailey's mother is the only named suspect in the case."