2011.05.25 TRIAL Day Two- (Afternoon Session)

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I'll agree his answers may seem a little vague, but it has been 3 years ago. His testimony follows his deposition and also follows the depositions of the other people around at this time. His cell pings also supported this part of the story, IIRC.

I do not think he is lying at all - but I read the depos and am not on the jury. If I were on the jury and didn't know what I do, I might wonder about his honesty and his credibility - I would definitely be put off by his attitude. Remember he's NY cocky and these people are deep south transplants. Don't anybody hit me, but there is a difference in demeanor. :truce:

I would think if you were seeing someone that was accused of killing their daughter YOU would remember every nano second you spent with them..
3 minutes 3 years wouldnt matter. JMO
 
  • #1,382
baez doesnt even know how to turn on the mic
 
  • #1,383
Tony's perpetually knit brow comes off as condescending.

I think his brow is very well knit. ICA's brows on the other hand look as if they are needing a few more strands of yarn. Just sayin!
 
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Is she buying shoes?
 
  • #1,385
Are they showing the tapes on tv and online as well? I hope I can watch them tonight!
 
  • #1,386
Is this the video to the Penny's receipts CA would never produce?
 
  • #1,387
Why does JB continually object to the same things?
 
  • #1,388
is this with mummy's credit card?
 
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Buying shoes @ JCP???????????
 
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can someone relay what is in the JCP video please?
 
  • #1,391
Is she returning something?
 
  • #1,392
The JCPenney's purchase....woot woot!!
 
  • #1,393
that must be so weird to watch her stealing your money on video
 
  • #1,394
Man, ICA misses shopping.
 
  • #1,395
Haha, he seemed very amused by being able to draw on the video. "Oh, cool!" Totally reminded me of a little kid when you show them something brand new.

Although where he indicated Casey on her body made me had to stifle a laugh for some reason.
 
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Back from my lunch break . . .
TL on stand
KC talked about how she was going to get the A home and move out with AH, don't remember exactly but relavant to that time frame . . kc was going to live with AH, I don't recall at that point in time anything about her saying anything about Mom or Dad, by 18th of June . . don't remember if kc and I were sharing secrets . . . new relationship . .. .June 19th look for another apartment . .. June 20th Fusion . . .kc went with TL . . . hip hop showcase . . . on 20th there was a Hot Body Contest that happened, don't remember if it was promoted beforehand but it was a last minute decision . . .more or less enough people to have contest . . .I wasn't present for the contest . . . I was told she wanted to do it . . .if you want to do it . . .do it . . . kc told me that (Objection overruled) . . I may have hesitated for a second but if she wanted to do it . . . TL's showcase . . his role was nothing got out of hand . . . no one harrassing the bar tenders . . . head security for the night . . .he didn't entertain . . . picture on screen (BR identified) photo of Hot Body Contest going on . .. recognize kc wearing a blue dress . . . same dress she came to showcase in . . .Clint (Roy) House was singing . . I was present when this was going on . . . June 20, 2008. Objections by DT previous objection . . .
HHBP noted previous objections . overruled . . .publish to the jury

Mr. George . . did you notice any difference in kc's demeanor?
A No Sir
not missing, kidnapped, actively looking for her, needed help, something happened to her . . . NOPE! (he means No)

TL had a lot of different phone numbers . . . 631 in it. changed numbers for media harrassment. Hip Hop Showcase was a success . . . kc came home with him . . . June 23rd . . . kc notified TL she ran out of gas in mid to late afternoon . . .TL was home, been at class that morning . . .she ran out of gas need to be picked up . . didn't sound frantic/scared/worried/angry. She asked for help, went to where she told me was , main road going south toward her house, TL believes he talked to her on the phone while going to get her . . . KC on the street with a backpack. Can't remember if he saw backpack before . . . she had gas at her house. . . went to her house to get gas . . never been there before . . she directed TL . . .driving Jeep . . . no other cars in driveway . . . to backyard. She opened garage . . keypad or garage opener . . . no other cars in garage . . . I can't remember if went through the house to the back yard . . .don't recall being inside A home . .. went to side of house to a shed, had open the shed, there was a lock . . . didn't have a key . . .break the lock with a tire iron from my truck . . .I was concerned about doing this . .. I asked if she was sure . . .she said Yes it's my Shi*!" Got a tire iron out broke the lock and took 2 gas cans, had gas in them, grabbed gas cans put in my truck, kc put gas into the car . . . kc put cans in the trunk . . .pontiac white . . .TL saw her put gas cans in trunk. . . TL couldn't see inside of trunk when she opened trunk. They went to his apartment . .. kc not concerned with breaking into shed . . .she was ok . . her mood was ok ..spent the rest evening with her . . telephone calls TL wasnt present when she was on phone. . .she would go out side . . sometimes you could see her walking around out near retention pond and grassy area. Found it odd (yes & No) didn't question it, private matter with her Mom to take phone outside. Never change in mood after speaking with her Mother .. . never got details what they spoke of. KC did say she would go call the babysitter . . .she would go outside to use the phone. Arguments with her mom don't remember any specific . .. not drastically change . .. altercation with your parents but not a severe one . . . I didn't want to inquire it wasn't my business.

It wasnt until later when I went back to NY for vacation June 30 - July 5th, after came back talked to kc about her home life.

June 26, 08 spent day w/kc . . .nothing specific . . hanging @ apartment . . .
June 27 '08 another occassion kc ran out of gas . . .midday or right before midday . . .she was at an Amscot @ end of Goldenrod Rd. Picked up kc @ Amscot - never got out of car . .. she was outside of car . . bags & groceries were outside the car.

She said her car broke down, kc said not need his help, her Father would take care of it. . . went back to apartment dropped off groceries then went to Fashion Square Mall.

SA approaching with another stipulation . . . requires JB signature . . .State and Defense agree that JC Penny video is true and factual. Previous marked LF . . . JCP video (I have not seen this previously)

DT objection relevance . . and previous objections
HHBP overrulled and noted . . . publish States #9


video shows kc at a sales counter . . hands the clerk something (a shoe?) clerk puts it in computer hands it back . . .kc leaves drops & kc . . . kc runs card . . .puts away in her wallet . . clerk runs transaction . . . video ends.



 
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can someone relay what is in the JCP video please?

It's hard to tell what she's doing. She had one of her shoes off and now they're doing something with bags.
 
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snip from video

shoe dept.PNG
 
  • #1,400
A federal evidence 403 is a balancing test - does the probative value outweigh the undue bias, prejudice, waste of time, and/or cumulative evidence factors. Not sure if Florida's 403 is the same as the federal 403.

Salem
 
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