2011.06.07 TRIAL Day Twelve (Morning Session)

[sleutherontheside]

BAM....no perspective.

 

[Reality Orlando]

This is making sense to me - there would be more chloroform in the air than on, say, a piece of fabric.

But, wasn't there posts earlier that said chloroform was heavier than air and would settle to the bottom and therefore be more concentrated in the carpet on the bottom of the trunk than in the air above it?

 

[Liz]

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[liltexans]

#CaseyAnthony Follower: chloroform had already evaporated in to the air from spare tire cover.

by bobkealing via twitter at 10:05 AM

 

[Sleuth5]

Baez is doing an excellent job with this witness.
- he has established that the leval of cloraform found is consistant with cleaning fluid.
- the witness has directly contradicted Dr Vass's testimony regarding "shockingly high" levals
- regardless of your personal feelings regarding him, this is very effective. The question is - will he quit while he's ahead.

Respectfully, he has not contradicted but confirmed Vass' findings. His understanding of their "relative" measurement are a matter of the way each scientist works with samples. Vass deals with a specific type of material and in the context of that study is used to seeing choloroform, but in much lower levels. The chemist does not deal with those samples regularly and as he just said has no real reference for deciding what would be "high" or low relative to something else. In other words, it's apples and oranges -- JB is doing the same thing here that he accused Vass of doing yesterday (the car was sitting for how long? That's not the same standard, how could you compare the two?).

MOO

 

[reeseeva]

I have never thought Chloroform was a big issue, always thought it was from a lot of cleaning products, and would be explained that way. I know I'm in the minority here.:twocents:

 

[2goldfish]

But, wasn't there posts earlier that said chloroform was heavier than air and would settle to the bottom and therefore be more concentrated in the carpet on the bottom of the trunk than in the air above it?

didnt FBI guy just test the carpet....not the air?

 

[whiteangora]

I'm a little worried here. Dr. Vass testified that the "point of origin" of the chloroform WAS the piece of the carpet. Now, from what I'm getting - this Dr. is saying there were only low levels of Chloroform on the trunk liner.

This chemist did not do air tests, did he?

 

[mydailyopinions]

Baez is smiling He is happy with this testimony from the FBI.

I feel a smackdown coming - he must not see it yet :grin:

 

[nursebeeme]

bam! I knew JA could do it (witness says he was surprised he got ANY chloroform off of it with it being in a box)

 

[epiphany]

MR: chloroform is a volatile substance and it doesn't stay around very long

 

[Mountain_Kat]

JA scoring points here about the cardboard box packaging, and Dr. R being surprised he picked up any chloroform on evidence packaged this way.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Excellent.....the item tested was not packaged as tightly as the carpet samples in a can!!!

No wonder JB has an issue now....because JA is mopping up the mess and JB had so much fun making it.

 

[Bobbarita]

Aha! There we go. Leaks, evaporation, volatility. And yet there's still chloroform...

 

[ColdDayIn]

Woohoo...GO JA! He's pulling it back together and making Rickenbach's testimony sound like Vass's.

 

[MissDiva]

JA is doing a great job showing that chloroform existed where the witness didn't expect it to. I'm not explaining that right, but I'm heavily medicated right now.

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

here it comes - very surprised to get any result for Chloroform

 

[Camille]

JA is destroying JBs cross examination. There was still chloroform on the objects and he was surprised because Chloroform is highly volatile.

 

[Ssejors]

No doubt, this is a circumstantial case - there's no tape of the act, but there isn't in many cases. The SA is asking

2 + x = 4

solve for x

X = 2??????

I KNEW IT!


Witness is saying "they are subjective terms"

JA back up questioning witness again.

Talking about product tampering.


Witness is saying that the way the trunk liner was packaged would allow the chlorform to leak out as it wasnt sealed air tight. Chlorform doesnt stay around very long.

He was surprised to get a result for chloroform as he would have expected the chloroform to have volatilized (disapated)


JA CLEARING IT UP FOR US AGAIN! TY TY TY

 

[liltexans]

#CaseyAnthony FBI analyst: chloroform very volatile I was surprised to get any in dried form.

by bobkealing via twitter at 10:07 AM