2011.06.07 TRIAL Day Twelve (Morning Session)

[kantoo]

i am zoning out on this testimony....wonder what the jury will take away from this?

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

JA is doing a great job showing that chloroform existed where the witness didn't expect it to. I'm not explaining that right, but I'm heavily medicated right now.

there should be no innocent reason why cholorform is present in a car where a baby's dead body laid...Glad JA is saving this testimony for he did a different test than Dr. Vass...but he was surprised any choloroform was present...it shouldn't be in the trunk at all..

Remember people, it's not one piece of evidence here and there, it the TOTALITY of all the evidence...putting it all together does ICA no good..there is no innocent explanation for it being there in the first place..JMHO

 

[Linda7NJ]

ouch......

 

[mck16]

I love that JA is now writing on JB's big pad.

I am surprised JB has not 'objected'.

 

[LyndyLoo]

Q22 was 5% of the positive control. Or 5 parts per million.
Q23 was .1% or 0.1 part per million

Wasnt Dr. Vass talking about parts per trillion yesterday??..Now this makes sense to me..

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Interesting

Q22 (the "source per Dr. Vass) had 5% of the standard

Q23 - had only .1%

Q24 - had only .2%

JA is working his way out from the stain - showing the stain still had a significant amount as compared to other areas in the trunk

Does that make sense?

 

[liltexans]

I think the jurors are starting to check out from this scientific testimony. #CaseyAnthony

by stevehelling via twitter at 10:16 AM

 

[Insomnia Momma]

I'm seriously amazed they found chloroform at all considering how long the car sat in the tow yard and at Amscot and then how long she drove it around. 31 days is a long time for it to be hanging around considering the high evaporation rate which IMO means there had to be a whole lot of it to begin with.

 

[ami]

Does he know about testing air samples for chloroform? No.
Does he know what levels would be high or low? No.

So the context of his evaluation of high, low or "shocking" is based on his own context, usually in liquids? Yes.

(heh - JB objected "outside the scope and highly misleading" --- pot/kettle)

 

[Quiche]

Wasnt Dr. Vass talking about parts per trillion yesterday??..Now this makes sense to me..

Parts per trillion are in the normal range, or what you'd expect-- parts per million are very high. Vass was getting parts per million as well.

 

[shelbar53]

Florida LE witnesses were professional, articulate and confident in their testimony. FBI pales in comparison. The FBI needs to send their experts to "witness training" classes.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

JA: (hand to ear) Highly misleading. (nod, laugh)

:floorlaugh:

 

[luckyme]

i am zoning out on this testimony....wonder what the jury will take away from this?

They are too per tweet on wesh!

 

[Amster]

OMG....LOVE JA....JB and his highly misleading objection! Made JA giggle!

 

[Sleuth5]

Too funny! Easel takes a deep-six! Even his aids are annoyed.

 

[Chiquita71]

HHJP: objection sustained

JB: these residue levels that were found and tested are equal to what you might find in common cleaning products?

yes.

JA: did you find any other substances that were from cleaning products?

I was tasked with looking for chloroform.

JA: you talked about low, very low, residue but those are vague terms?

yes subjective terms

JA: ever been called on in your career to look for chloroform on in a dry form, ususally liquid?

there have been unknown liquids where chloroform was identified?

JA: product tampering?

yes, or unknown where they don't know what it is

JA: what would be high or low?

I don't have anything to reference, have to do test and doing a validation kind of study.

JA: in reference to states exhibit the spare tire cover, how did it come to you? how was it packaged

JB: objection

overrulled

JA: how was it packaged?

found inside a box

JA: card board box like here?

JA: what effect would that have on a volitile thing like chloroform?

it would leak out

JA: why were you surprised?

normally chloroform does not stay around, to have a package like that I was surprised to get results for chloroform

JA: you figured it should have(been gone)

yes, was surprised

JA: general numbers?

the intenstity of the peak the hight the area of the peak...

JA: that is what you are referring to not a quanitative analysis but...

not right to say quanitiative but can get...

JA: ?

the control was a known amount of chloroform, 0.01% in water. 100 parts per million

JA: so that is the standard which you compare to determine a general idea of how much there is

so I wouldn't put too much on or two little. I use it to detect the quanitative control

JA: this 100 ppm?

yes, later on I was asked to give indication of quanity and this was the only way

JA: so this is a very rough...it was a piece of spare tire cover in a can?

yes

JA: is that better than keeping in a box?

submitted it in the can is the appropriate way to do it

JA: Q22 rough amount you found compared to the control

compared the high of the peak is significantly less

JA: rough percentage?

can I give an idea about percentage, I did give

JA: what is the comparison to the standard

I do not have information in front of me, (looks) based on the hight counts it is five percent based on the comparasion of the control

JA: very rough estimate?

yes

JA: somewhere in five percent

that is my calucation.

JA: Q23? how about?

approx .1 percent

JA: and Q23 is the actual unsealed spare tire cover?

that is correct

JA: would it be fair to say the sealed container contained more chloroform than the one in the box

for Q22, yes but there were more

JA: skip the ones you say are consistent with...trunk liners...how about Q44 was that a sample in a sealed container?

yes

JA: rough percentage on that?

the rough percentage is 5% as compared to the positive controll

JA: Q45

.2%

JA: the highest is on Q22 in a sample in a can?

yes, but must take into account the sample was not the same. If I have a bigger cutting on Q and a smaller out of the next, I will find more. This is not the best way to relate these numbers.

JA: what ever the amount in the sample would that chloroform have evaporated before you could test?

I could

JA: open car, chloroform would be the same as before?

objection
overruled

based on the properties of chloroform if it was open atmosphere I would expect less than I found.

JA: if these figures accurately reflect would it add up to the low parts per mill rank?

yes

JA: other than testing for chloroform in air samples?

no

JA: any knowledge of what is high or low in a air sample?

objection
overrulled

no

JA: the context you said of high, low or shocking that is from liquid?

?

JA: prior to this it would have been liquid?

objection
overruled

HHJP: she did

JB: highly misleading

HHJP: overruled

JA: in the context of your experience(?)mostly testing for chloroform

correct

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

JB keeps objecting - overruled each time

 

[QB.]

recross by defense now.
ah ha, JB knocked down the big scratch pad.

 

[legalmania]

So Caylee put on her bathing suit and jumped in the pool? They took it off dressed her, threw her bathing suit in the trunk?

 

[KPSumms]

there goes the pad