2011.06.10 TRIAL Day Fifteen (Morning Session)

[rosepetal1065]

Okay...now we have full on meltdown...and it's no turning back. Court seems to have stopped.

 

[CementPond]

She really needs to stop with her outbursts just like the judge told everyone else.

 

[CalifMomOf2]

Oh Dear...be still my heart!

 

[tut med]

oh plzzzz
where was this woman when Caylee needed hugging

 

[wenwe4]

John Schulz - undergrad degree bio anthropolgy...masters human anthro...PhD in anthropology....(kc wiping tears?)

Forensic anthropoligist study human skeleton....as forensic archeologist - specialist collecting remains in field, locating recovering human remains....
taphonomy - study body after death.....how skeleton dispersed @ a site....

forensic anthropology PhD labs - U of FL - provide service to FL for skeletonized remains sent there - continuous flow of skeletonized cases - great place to work as a graduate student....studied Anthony Falcetti and Dr. Michael Warren - detect human remains and ground penetrating radar dectector - remote sensing tools ie: GPR

UCF - metropolitin University works with community - medical examiners and Sheriff dept on as needed basis...prior to you working here ....Dr. DuPrey bio-archeologist forensic cases and some cases sent to Gainesville....she was @ University but not working with the scope of cases he does.....served as a local resource for them.....if needed they could call..

12/11/08 - received calls from Hansen & Dr. G - go to scene initial recovery.....not present during the first day - not @ scene - he had a final on osteology (skeleton) - initial remains had been recovered - went to ME's office ....arrived there skull there? don't remember....first recollection of seeing skull - looking in bag ...saw skull and duct tape ---tore corners of bag to lay it flat so skull not handled in anyway.....present when pictures were taken.....xrays ....photo he held skull up to picture skull.....pic where he is holding the skull - his gloved hand holding skull (kc breathing heavy wiping with same kleenex)

mandible still in anotomical position - normal position position of bones during life.....mandible was close in anatomical position.....surprise to see...mandible comes away once soft tissue is gone....hair moved to base of skull...leaf litter and roots....tape have any involvement in holding - tape was adheared to the hair.....

no evidence of trauma to bones - plan to excavate site? he would not call in an excavation - they were using trowels .....call this a recovery not excavation....material was leaf litter to remove....on 12th he arrived @ scene - talked to susan mears - csi, dealing with a small child - very small bones - additional parts of bones - some bones not completely ossified yet ....heavy wood environment - process scene every one on hands and knees remove leaf litter - screen and double check with a sifting station.....start from known area and work out from there - I worked from where skull found with susan mears because I would be identifying bones......screening box...mesh bottom box all material - sift thru material......sheriff had 2nd sifter....everything sifted thru was sifted again......2nd smaller mesh due to bones so small.....

photos of process of recovery - OcsO took photos - I only there as advisory - not there whole time.....photos SA exhibit EP - set up main area with blue canopy tarp over main area.....where skull initially found.....on hands and knees small bones - laying flags out....mapping document spatial relationships where items are found in the field....items and skeletal remains....using a computerized transit is most accurate....used by Ocso....Ron Murdock - used station and discussed how done....remains were found he was there - schultz was there every day in town and available - assess bones and material -human bones to expand search.....what material was human bones....small bones....increased area ....additional CSI = additional human remains found expanding area as additional bones were located.....

Pic EP - publish - canopy picture...lots vines in area...show process....remove some vines, plant debris....when items located place flags with number...small bones - flag placed where bone was found .....important to know where particular bones found and what order - when trying to determine how bones were disarticuated....separated from natural ....recognize photo?

pictures all the flags representing items....showing that process EQ- pic publish

close up of the earlier pic we looked @ different angle - CSI in charge of documentation...flags representing locations of items found....in left hand has a evidence folder for collection - she is collecting....wrote down number for that piece of evidence - written on flag as she is removing evidence - mapping each bone and evidence the sheriff collected....continually mapping....


his job was to tell what was bone, human bone and not....non-human stuff - looked @ those bones @ ME office if they were transported.......

Pic - ER publish....what looking @ in the photo? number of vertabrae....no soft tissue....roots growing throughout....dealing with a child....how we grow - bones don't grow as whole units = grow in pieces to allow growth.....vertebrae on his right ....back of the vertebrae - here is where they separated......all these were found in one location....all transported while they were still together.....while soft tisse still present....significant as to how they got transported....

onto SA #EW - photo photo of a bone fragment (kc blows nose first time).....received publish....bone with manilla envelope with writing....document(kc whispers to dS - DS doesn't respond) deeper with roots how it was found? this one may have been found in sift - person recovered remains....lane 5, sift bone....fragment from another bone....

SA exhibit FA - photo of 2 bones found ....publish...what are these bones? the largest bones in body shafts in the femora - where lower leg bones attach to the pelvis...

split screen with this and last photo EW - two bones relate to each other? tope of bones been chewed on by animals ( kc appears to actually cry - breathing facial expressions shaking appear consistent for the first time it is crying for Caylee IMO!)

 

[MelissaLee]

good point Mr Ashton!!!!....the vertebra was in a different location than the skull

I'm a little dense lately what with having "baby brain" and all - but this suggested to me that the head was separated from the rest of the body, either due to a broken neck or some other injury. Am I reading too much into this, or am I just getting this way wrong? What reasons could there be for this? Anyone?

 

[Hamsterdance]

:banghead::banghead::banghead: Did you hear THAT ICA???? Your daughters bones were chewed on by animals!!! :maddening::maddening::maddening:

 

[Chiquita71]

(Really? DSims is going to hold Casey like a baby like that? ) What inmates get this kind of treatment? Does this woman have emotional or mental problems? Because everyone else is holding it together. They better say she has mental issues to be giving her this special treatment.

 

[shezcrafti]

ICA really losing it now.

 

[C-Squared]

Here we go... ICA breaking down.

 

[minazoe]

oh ...boo hoo.

 

[Krisy]

Heartbreaking....bones chewed on by animals. Bigger breakdown from Casey.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I will not laugh, I will not laugh.

 

[Softail]

WOW! Bill S is even saying DCS is the designated babysitter!

 

[DeadCat]

Does anyone know if GA and CA are in court today?

 

[TiaM]

OK enough of this carp!!!! HHJP needs to remove her pronto!!!

 

[UFO]

KC losing it. "Bones chewed by animals"

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MOO

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Bill S. suggests that DS has been relegated to "babysitting" Casey.

 

[countzero]

WOW, HHJP just looked at ICA with a raised eyebrow walking down to sidebar. My oh my he isn't a happy camper.

 

[Soulmagent]

Fakedown looking pretty real at the moment.

I guess she is upset about losing the kronk moved the body Shortly before found being dead.