2011.06.15 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Nineteen)

[LiveLaughLuv]

Is anyone worried that HHJP didn't deny CM's motion right away and that he recessed to review everything? Or is this standard procedure?

NO, he has case law he isn't familiar with....I'll bet he's already made up his mind and will DENY this motion...all just a formality and possibly used for appeal issues...but His Honor purses his lips when he finds oddities with the defenses wordings and wrong application of case law...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[2door73chevy]

Yes, most sexual abuse survivors of father like figures usually wink and flirt even if on trial for murder. (Obviously sarcasm, to be clear if defense team is reading here.)

SICK ________!

Thanks..I just asked if anyone had a picture. You're fast!

 

[TexasDoll]

the fact that no fingerprints were found on the evidence has to scream premeditation.

ICA was smart enough to wear gloves?

 

[21merc7]

It's just a formality. Don't worry. It will be denied! :denied:

This is correct, nothing to worry about, it will be denied. This is just standard procedure.

 

[Eidetic]

 

[TraceyLeigh]

:sick::loser:

Yes, most sexual abuse survivors of father like figures usually wink and flirt even if on trial for murder. (Obviously sarcasm, to be clear if defense team is reading here.)

SICK ________!

:sick::loser:

DISGUSTING

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

Any thoughts on if the DT will provide a defense or not?

Oh, they will prevent a defense, but I distinctly recall CM stating that they will not offer an affirmative defense - so they're just going to try to tear down what the SA presented, not present anything on their own.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I WAS interested in this case 'as it happened' in 2008, but do you know that Nancy Grace and her 'tot mom' screech actually made me think there might be NOTHING to this case? NG is a REAL turn-off. That's why I am SOOOOO happy to have discovered Websleuths and its GORGEOUS moderators. haha

I too stopped listening to NG about a year into this cae. I was here at WS and with all of the facts we KNEW and the facts NG mis-reported nightly, I couldn't take it. But I have started watching her again during the trial, simply because she seems to HATE ICA as much as I do, and she seems to LOVE Caylee as much as we all do.

 

[Velouria]

I actually love statements like the one CM made...unless I missed something, he never ever said that Casey was not guilty. He never said that his client did not wrap duct tape around her daughter, cloroform her etc. He essentially said that the state is infering she did from the evidence which is not allowed in this country.

Do you think he's ever heard the term "circumstantial case"?

 

[What'sThatClue]

the fact that no fingerprints were found on the evidence has to scream premeditation.

ICA was smart enough to wear gloves?

I think the elements destroyed any possible fingerprints.

 

[realdeal]

Yes, most sexual abuse survivors of father like figures usually wink and flirt even if on trial for murder. (Obviously sarcasm, to be clear if defense team is reading here.)

SICK ________!

My thoughts exactly!

 

[Florida Native]

Any thoughts on if the DT will provide a defense or not?

They will based on what CM said in sidebar Monday. But must point out that, like HHJP, I do not believe anything that comes out of their mouth.

I think they have to now that they made that OS. I know it is is customary to always make OS at the beginning but maybe JB should have held that little nugget until he heard the SA's case. :floorlaugh:

I'm not sure what they are going to do to try and prove her case. It wouldn't be smart to put her on the stand (but I so pray for this to happen :innocent: ) so what do they have? RK obviously. Jesse G because he talked about a what if scenario with possible accidental drowning. They also have RA and the letters re abuse. Pretty flimsy stuff imo.

 

[Sedona722]

During Cheney's argument I kept thinking of Razzle Dazzle from Chicago the movie.

Give 'em the old razzle dazzle
Razzle Dazzle 'em
Give 'em an act with lots of flash in it
And the reaction will be passionate
Give 'em the old hocus pocus

Give 'em the old double whammy
Daze and dizzy 'em
Back since the days of old Methuselah
Everyone loves the big bambooz-a-ler

Of course, he wasn't as entertaining as Richard Gere.
MOO

 

[21merc7]

Casey just sat down and lowered her chair 3 or 4 pumps.

But there are no jurors to see her.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

The guard made sure ICA was outta there. But on the WESH feed - the lil ICA box down in the corner. It goes to the exit sign when in recess - but you can see the top of the door and it keeps opening and closing - right now its stayed open.

hhhmmmmm

 

[2goldfish]

the fact that no fingerprints were found on the evidence has to scream premeditation.

ICA was smart enough to wear gloves?

whether there were prints or not we'll never know as the tape was in such bad shape after all the months underwater. this is how JB et al can toy around with the idea of kronk and GA being responsible for dumping the remains. no prints.

 

[jane the dood]

I'm with Sleutherontheside...after listening to CM bloviate, I need bleach in my ears. Anyone else wanna hit? And after watching ICA get all cute and flirty with her DT, I think I need a shot in my eyes, too

 

[coloradoteacher]

regarding the tattoo- I think that ICA would say it means beautiful life and I think she got this from the Lindsay Lohan song with the same title-
some of the interesting lyrics: BBM
My beautiful life
The only thing's certain is everything changes
The lows and the highs
And all those goodbyes
As hard as it gets I know it's still amazing
To be alive
It's a beautiful life [3x]
It's a beautiful lie

Also, the subtitle on the album is "la bella vita"....

 

[TiaM]

Casey just sat down and lowered her chair 3 or 4 pumps.

I wonder why - did she forget the jury isn't coming back today. :waitasec: :loser:

 

[Themis]

Dutchie,
HHJP has prosecuted DP cases and won. A woman, J Buenano, received the DP and he attended her execution. He also sees ICA's change in demeanor when the jury is out of the room. I doubt if he has any sympathy for ICA ,but he does follow the law to a T,imo.

This is really important. I doubt anyone has told ICA that the jury's recommendation can be modified by the Judge. She doesn't know that. But, don't tell her. Too late now.