4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 73

[Dexter12]

10 curls inside a glove in a box...Keepsakes?

 

[QB2022]

Pocket knife but no actual knife

 

[10ofRods]

I'm certainly not advocating in favor of traumatizing anyone but LE has three main objectives with a raid: taking the suspect into custody, making sure no innocent people are hurt or taken hostage, and making sure they all go home safely. LE typically doesn't know any of the people in that house, the family dynamics, or if there are any weapons to be worried about. Will the parents attempt to help their son or simply stand aside? Will the target surrender or opt for a shootout? Taking everyone in the residence by surprise minimizes the opportunity for any organized resistance as well as making it less likely that there is any time for the target to take anyone hostage or access weapons. Doing their best to assure everyone's safety is, in many ways, the most humane and civilized thing LE can do. MOOooo

Also: searching the house is a goal; and without people attempting to hide evidence.

DM published a much longer list (probably from the house warrant - there were three warrants).

There's a kitchen knife (taken for obvious reasons). A black mask. A black hat. Black Jacket. And about 60 other items including a laptop:

Knife, gun and ammunition seized from Bryan Kohberger's home

The full list of items seized by Pennsylvania police from Bryan Kohberger's parents' house was revealed on Thursday and includes a knife, gun, ammunition and a 'criminal psychology book'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This is just the last page.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Every time I look at it I see something else. Could the 10 really be ID?

I see “ID cards inside glove inside box” too.

 

[NCWatcher]

cards?

Maybe. But it still looks like 6 letters to me, not 5. Doesn't look like the d that would be in "cards"" was written in 2 pieces but maybe that's possible.

 

[NCWatcher]

I see “ID cards inside glove inside box” too.

That's possible. But wouldn't the number of cards have been noted?

 

[isabella88]

I know DM says that but it sure looks like the word on the handwritten list has 6 letters not 5 as in "curls." And how does one seize "Vooks?" Isn't that a streaming platform for kids' books?
JMO

V is next to B on the keyboard, so the DM made that error. IMO, it says books in the handwritten document.

 

[crumbcleaner]

I know DM says that but it sure looks like the word on the handwritten list has 6 letters not 5 as in "curls." And how does one seize "Vooks?" Isn't that a streaming platform for kids' books?
JMO

It’s books, typo in translation IMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/1631295769000005632

 

[MadMcGoo]

That's possible. But wouldn't the number of cards have been noted?

I’d think so. Maybe they didn’t want to remove them in order to preserve evidence? I’m not sure.

 

[Wallendo]

Looking at the list of seized items, I worry that something horrible was going to happen soon in Pennsylvania, if he hadn't been arrested. He had a Glock with 3 magazines and a receipt. Apparently he did not yet have ammunition.

The gloves in the store could simply be because meat was present, but I suspect the two traffic stops in short succession during his trip home may have tipped him off that he was a suspect. He knew enough not to leave traceable DNA.

I wonder if the "curls" are souvenirs from Idaho.

 

[crumbcleaner]

Pocket knife but no actual knife

Knife is #1 and cutlery knife w/sheath #57 on the list.

 

[isabella88]

I’d think so. Maybe they didn’t want to remove them in order to preserve evidence? I’m not sure.

What if he took ID cards from the victims as souvenirs? Just a really chilling thought and it may explain why the number of cards is not included.

 

[isabella88]

Looking at the list of seized items, I worry that something horrible was going to happen soon in Pennsylvania, if he hadn't been arrested. He had a Glock with 3 magazines and a receipt. Apparently he did not yet have ammunition.

A killer with nothing to lose is terrifying. The mags were empty. Wonder if he was practicing. JIM

 

[crumbcleaner]

Looking at the list of seized items, I worry that something horrible was going to happen soon in Pennsylvania, if he hadn't been arrested. He had a Glock with 3 magazines and a receipt. Apparently he did not yet have ammunition.

The gloves in the store could simply be because meat was present, but I suspect the two traffic stops in short succession during his trip home may have tipped him off that he was a suspect. He knew enough not to leave traceable DNA.

I wonder if the "curls" are souvenirs from Idaho.

Coming from home these could have been anyone’s (the gun, but really any of it no?) IMO, edited to remove “s” from gun bc I only see one listed

 

[jepop]

I think that odd one is "ID cards in glove in box". Not 10 curls or 10 cards. Id not 10. That makes sense.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I'm certainly not advocating in favor of traumatizing anyone but LE has three main objectives with a raid: taking the suspect into custody, making sure no innocent people are hurt or taken hostage, and making sure they all go home safely. LE typically doesn't know any of the people in that house, the family dynamics, or if there are any weapons to be worried about. Will the parents attempt to help their son or simply stand aside? Will the target surrender or opt for a shootout? Taking everyone in the residence by surprise minimizes the opportunity for any organized resistance as well as making it less likely that there is any time for the target to take anyone hostage or access weapons. Doing their best to assure everyone's safety is, in many ways, the most humane and civilized thing LE can do. MOOooo

I understand that's the objective, but I don't believe it's accurate to say they're making sure no innocent people are hurt. People do get hurt in these raids and those not hurt physically, are hurt psychologically. The deep psychological wounds people are left with after these raids shouldn't be ignored. BK's parents did nothing wrong as far as we know, yet they were victims of the raid and everything else aside, the raid alone has no doubt changed their lives. I get it, it had to be done and this is how it had to be done. But I go back to, I can't believe we don't have a better way. These raids are not ok, IMO.

MOO.

 

[WingsOverTX]

What if he took ID cards from the victims as souvenirs? Just a really chilling thought and it may explain why the number of cards is not included.

Maybe. How would he have time to do that in the dark?

 

[jepop]

Maybe. But it still looks like 6 letters to me, not 5. Doesn't look like the d that would be in "cards"" was written in 2 pieces but maybe that's possible.

Pretty sure it is ID cards. Almost 100% it is not curls or cords and I see 5 letters not six

 

[isabella88]

Maybe. How would he have time to do that in the dark?

Not sure. Just a thought.

 

[ktm44]

A killer with nothing to lose is terrifying. The mags were empty. Wonder if he was practicing. JIM

If I'm not mistaken, the items listed were seized from the home in PA and not items owned by BK.