4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 75

[Kemug]

I am looking forward to eventually learning more about that question of BK's: "Has anyone else been arrested?" Was it a genuine question, and if so, what does that imply? Or was it a (possibly pre-planned) ploy?

 

[Nila Aella]

Article about search warrants

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article273131445.html

 

[NyxNY]

IMO the DoorDash warrant was to be absolutely sure that the driver was no way involved in the crime. By direct or to a lesser extent indirect association (in connection with the elantra)

There are 1440 minutes in a day, 500,000+ minutes in a year. And a horrific quadruple murder is committed minutes after a food delivery is made in the dead of night. That's an uncomfortable and oddly close window of time.

If they didn't dig into the driver and all other DoorDash drivers it would have been a easy thing for the defense to use to poke holes into the case.

DBM. I had I mistakenly associated the March 2021 date with DD when it was Tinder.

 

[kittythehare]

I am looking forward to eventually learning more about that question of BK's: "Has anyone else been arrested?" Was it a genuine question, and if so, what does that imply? Or was it a (possibly pre-planned) ploy?

The latter I would imagine.

 

[Helechawagirl]

The latter I would imagine.

Or he could be asking if there were any other suspects or just him…I.e. are the police focusing on me or are they looking at others as well? JMO

 

[Justice101]

I am looking forward to eventually learning more about that question of BK's: "Has anyone else been arrested?" Was it a genuine question, and if so, what does that imply? Or was it a (possibly pre-planned) ploy?

I think he was wondering if either of his parents were arrested.

 

[NyxNY]

I think you're misunderstanding. I'm fully on-board with them investigating the DD driver who delivered that day.

BUT they were investigating ALL DD drivers who delivered to the address from January 2022 until the night of the murders. Every driver who delivered there for the 10 months prior. So if some DD driver delivered in January, he was investigated for a murder that happened 10 months later. That's what I find unusual.

The driver who delivered the day of the murder should absolutely be investigated.

MOO

What I am about to say may be totally far-fetched and over-reaching, but is it possible that LE was being so careful in covering all bases, that they thought it possible for BK to try to explain away being near that house so many times from August - November during late evening/early a.m., by saying he was delivering DD? This all being in anticipation of BK using this as an explanation? As I understand it (and I could be wrong) DD works similar to Uber in that the drivers are not actual employees. All speculation, MOO

 

[angelainwi]

What I am about to say may be totally far-fetched and over-reaching, but is it possible that LE was being so careful in covering all bases, that they thought it possible for BK to try to explain away being near that house so many times from August - November during late evening/early a.m., by saying he was delivering DD? This all being in anticipation of BK using this as an explanation? As I understand it (and I could be wrong) DD works similar to Uber in that the drivers are not actual employees. All speculation, MOO

I think that is actually pretty possible and not far-fetched at all

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I agree when it comes to the DD driver who dropped food off at 4 am on the night of the murder. But if they're going to then investigate all DD drivers who delivered to that address (even the ones who DIDN'T deliver on the night of the murder), then why don't they do that for every murder? JMO.

Maybe they do? Bear in mind that 'stranger murder' with no clear motive is extremely rare and sadly most murders that happen in side a residence are relatively easy to solve as they mostly involve the nearest / closest people in relationship and or physical proximity to the victim and with a 'reason' (for want of a better word) often in a fit of temper.

Also, this murder was not one murder but four and all four occurred within less than 20 minutes of the DD. So, I would say that there is something extreme and exceptional about that and would warrant exceptional scrutiny.
<modsnip> JMO MOO.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I think you're misunderstanding. I'm fully on-board with them investigating the DD driver who delivered that day.

BUT they were investigating ALL DD drivers who delivered to the address from January 2022 until the night of the murders. Every driver who delivered there for the 10 months prior. So if some DD driver delivered in January, he was investigated for a murder that happened 10 months later. That's what I find unusual.

The driver who delivered the day of the murder should absolutely be investigated.

MOO

I would personally wonder whether someone like BK had been squirrelling snippets of info from *anyone* who went to the house whether that be the DD / mail persons / police officers / neighbours / friends / groundskeepers.

JMO MOO and wild speculation but some people who need to do late night delivery jobs are doing it because they aren't best suited to getting a 'better' job (no offence intended to DD persons, it's a legit job but maybe one of the ones that is least screened as a person can sign up quite easily) and maybe even those who have a criminal past / tendencies. BK liked to engage serious offenders and ask them about their crimes, who knows what sort of people he had meaningful chats with and what snippets he cleaned from them.

Also, I wonder, the police video footage from their body cams when they attend noise nuisance / underage drinking call outs, is that in any way public accessible recorded footage? Is it possible BK enjoyed monitoring police cam call out vids?

 

[Montecore1]

JMO MOO and wild speculation but some people who need to do late night delivery jobs are doing it because they aren't best suited to getting a 'better' job (no offence intended to DD persons, it's a legit job but maybe one of the ones that is least screened as a person can sign up quite easily) and maybe even those who have a criminal past / tendencies.

I personally have not found this to be true at all...all of the DD/Uber Eats etc drivers I have interacted with (late night or not) have all been people that are just working a very difficult job just to try to make ends meet in this economy or even retiree's. In fact most working the late night shift it is a second job for the additional needed income... But like I wrote thats the ones I have interacted with so YMMV

Also, I wonder, the police video footage from their body cams when they attend noise nuisance / underage drinking call outs, is that in any way public accessible recorded footage? Is it possible BK enjoyed monitoring police cam call out vids?

This was discussed many pages back and if Im not mistaken the Pullman Police bodycam videos are available but not the Moscow Police bodycam videos.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I personally have not found this to be true at all...all of the DD/Uber Eats etc drivers I have interacted with (late night or not) have all been people that are just working a very difficult job just to try to make ends meet in this economy or even retiree's. In fact most working the late night shift it is a second job for the additional needed income... But like I wrote thats the ones I have interacted with so YMMV

This was discussed many pages back and if Im not mistaken the Pullman Police bodycam videos are available but not the Moscow Police bodycam videos.

Agree with this sentiment as the only people I know who do these jobs are really hardworking lovely people. I just speculate that perhaps *some* could also be ex offenders or such because I'm not sure much checking gets done so much as a person registers on the system and is up and running fairly easily.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

What I am about to say may be totally far-fetched and over-reaching, but is it possible that LE was being so careful in covering all bases, that they thought it possible for BK to try to explain away being near that house so many times from August - November during late evening/early a.m., by saying he was delivering DD? This all being in anticipation of BK using this as an explanation? As I understand it (and I could be wrong) DD works similar to Uber in that the drivers are not actual employees. All speculation, MOO

I don't think that's far-fetched at all, and I thank you for mentioning it. That's kind of my point. It feels like because LE is sure they have their guy, any other discussion about the oddities of the case is dismissed as LE just doing their job. I feel like it's more than that. It could still be that BK is their guy, but I'm so curious about everything else because it really does not seem normal to me.

Re: your theory. It's a good one, but if we agree that BK arrived on the scene in August, then why would they need all the DD drivers from January - August? IMO, there's more there. Maybe BK really did pick WSU because of one of the victims? Maybe this didn't all start with his arrival on the scene. Maybe there is a connection with DD or one of their drivers from months before the murder or even months before he moved from PA.

MOO.

 

[Boxer]

I am looking forward to eventually learning more about that question of BK's: "Has anyone else been arrested?" Was it a genuine question, and if so, what does that imply? Or was it a (possibly pre-planned) ploy?

His parents house is forcefully raided in the middle of the night. He is arrested, while his parentrs were secured in another part of the house. MOO he was asking if his parents were arrested.

 

[Sundog]

Article about search warrants

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article273131445.html

This Idaho Statesman article on the search warrants has some very good analysis of the various warrants and the timeline of the warrants involved.

Also states that the DoorDash driver has been cleared by LE.

 

[Sundog]

I am looking forward to eventually learning more about that question of BK's: "Has anyone else been arrested?" Was it a genuine question, and if so, what does that imply? Or was it a (possibly pre-planned) ploy?

It's certainly intriguing. Some have speculated that he was worried about his parents, but it could have been because he thought someone back in Moscow or Pullman might have been arrested - maybe there was someone else involved in some way. JMO.

 

[Sundog]

Re: your theory. It's a good one, but if we agree that BK arrived on the scene in August, then why would they need all the DD drivers from January - August?

<snipped for focus>

If I'm reading this article correctly (article posted below), it sounds like the DD warrant from January to August may have been served prior to LE having their sights on BK. So if it was pre-BK as a suspect, they were looking into DD drivers as possible suspects.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article273131445.html

 

[Sundog]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed>
Idaho Statesman article, link below, says the DD driver has been cleared.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article273131445.html

 

[Nila Aella]

This Idaho Statesman article on the search warrants has some very good analysis of the various warrants and the timeline of the warrants involved.

Also states that the DoorDash driver has been cleared by LE.

I like how they did this with the search warrants and some timeline information. Excellent article IMO.
MOO

From the article in Idaho Statesman: Re : DDD being cleared

On Dec. 6, police also sent a search warrant to DoorDash for all deliveries to the King Road home dating to the beginning of the year. It was later revealed in the affidavit that Kernodle received a DoorDash food delivery at the home at approximately 4 a.m. the day of the killings, and police said they cleared the driver of any involvement in the crime.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article273131445.html

<snipped for focus>

If I'm reading this article correctly (article posted below), it sounds like the DD warrant from January to August may have been served prior to LE having their sights on BK. So if it was pre-BK as a suspect, they were looking into DD drivers as possible suspects.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article273131445.html

They located his car on Nov 29th. MOO

From the PCA

On November 29, 2022, at approximately 1228 a.m., Washington State University (WSU) Police Officer Daniel Tiengo, queried white Elantras registered at WSU. As a result of that query he located a 20I5 white Elartra with a Pennsylvania license plate LFZ-86{9. This vehicle was registered to Bryan Kohberger

 

[DeDee]

Idaho Statesman article, link below, says the DD driver has been cleared.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article273131445.html

Has everyone subscribed to The Statesman? I hit a paywall. I can't read it so I'll gladly take your word for it.

I've been involved in this case part/time until this point due to the Murdaugh trial.

I will have a Mod delete the statement in the OP.