"a specific tool ...designed for a specific audience."

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I tend to agree. First the "thanks to an angel" tweet, now a support page. And it appears that dds herself is a member and is posting. The poster uses her avatar -- a jumping lamb, and speaks as if she is dds. The page is public -- at least to read.

I take that with a grain of salt. People can easily impersonate others on the interwebs when, for example, commenting on online news articles, etc. With that in mind, someone could well have snagged her avatar and is trying to stir things up. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
 
I take that with a grain of salt. People can easily impersonate others on the interwebs when, for example, commenting on online news articles, etc. With that in mind, someone could well have snagged her avatar and is trying to stir things up. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.

anything is possible. But, imoo, it doesn't seem likely in this particular instance. The dds on that site doesn't appear to be trying to stir things up (unless her membership and one comment can be seen that way) and her comment seems like something she might say in normal conversation. And following so closely on the heels of the tweet stuff, it just seems to me more likely than not that it's her.
 
IMO the only reason they used the pictures of Terri that they did, was because they were the most recent pictures of her that they had. IMO nothing more.

This is my feeling az well. I'll even go one step further in that not only were they the most recent but the other pics that we have seen of Terri(the ones in the immediAte preceding weeks/months such as the ones at the zoo just to give an example)
In those pics of Terri that were only a few weeks and a few months for some, the change in Terris appearance IMO IS QUITE DRASTIC! Even in those recent of pics Terri looked thinner(she seemed to have lost a good bit of baby weight and then within weeks u have her weight back up) but more importantly IMO IS THAT her face hardly even resembles the face we see.

SO NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON IS OF WHY THIS SUDDEN CHANGES IN HER APPEARANCE OCCURED(bcuz I'm quite sure there will be drastic varying of opinions why, but that is irrelevant to my point)
My point is that due to these notable changes these pics from the presser IS EXACTLY HOW TERRI APPEARED ON JUNE 4th. Therefor that is why those specific pics are used and by them zooming in to focus on Terri KH and DY ( slivers of their faces can be seen, unrecognizable and to alot of ppl not even noticed )

Jmo on why those pics of Terri were used in flier and how Inadvertently K and D sliced faces were in those pics.




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Well, gosh. If that's the case, that Terri's other pictures don't look much like her, why then were two pictures of Dede, easily 10 years or more older, then used? Interesting to say the least!

But nevertheless, the flier says 'ANY of the people" and Kaine and Desiree, regardless, are on that flier.
 
If LE had criminal information on Terri and/or Dede about which they were shocked, they would have evidence, and Terri and/or Dede would be arrested. IMHO, it's beyond the realm of possibility to assume LE has mountains of evidence against either or both women, but that they're not arresting them as part of some strategy. IMHO, that would've only been viable very, very early on and certainly before Terri retained her lawyer.

IMHO, it's a bit disingenuous for LE to continue to make indirect accusations but not back it up with arrests, and there is either evidence of criminal activity or there is not. If there is not then LE needs to stop feeding the rumor mill to cover up what are possibly their shortcomings and/or misdirection in this case.

I think the rumor mill only exists pretty much online. Not everyone is glued to this case and following every move. I have friends all over the country and they don't even know who Kyron Horman's name. Many people just don't like reading about missing children and don't go there. As far as LE's slowness, two names come to mind Diane Downs and Susan Smith. Downs wasn't arrested for 9 months. IMO LE isn't feeding rumors, they've actually said very little, but Terri has not been cleared. LE is targeting her, I agree, and with good cause. If she had been able to adequately account for her time, she would have been cleared. Terri's well-being pales compared to Kyron's current status. Cases take time to be ready for court, and I really don't think they'll do anything unless they think they can win, or until they find Kyron. There was a recent case in Oregon of a woman murdered allegedly by her boyfriend two years ago. They just filed charges a few weeks ago.

I'm not trying to be snarky--and being me, it's rough at times. My emo gets the better of me at times. I respect everyone's right to their opinion about this case. I could still change my mind, if things didn't keep happening to keep me where I am. I don't mind someone disagreeing with me, or telling me they don't get me, that's ok I don't mind being the blacksheep.

I really appreciate your comments, most have made me stop and think, others amused and given me a much needed laugh in our discussion of this serious matter. Everyone wants the same things: Kyron to come home, whoever is responsible to go to jail, and for this nightmare to end for all involved. I don't like it when people plan to protest outside Terri's home and that kind of thing--it's uncalled for and just harassment. Leave her alone, if LE has all the evidence and it still points to her and accomplice(s) she/they will pay.
 
Well, gosh. If that's the case, that Terri's other pictures don't look much like her, why then were two pictures of Dede, easily 10 years or more older, then used? Interesting to say the least!

But nevertheless, the flier says 'ANY of the people" and Kaine and Desiree, regardless, are on that flier.

With Dede LE had no public pics of her from a presser. And with that second flier that Dede is on, it coming out weeks after Kyrons disappearance IMO no one knew exactly how Dede appeared those weeks before.
IMO LE taking into consideration Terris noticeable changes in appearAnce, they thought that dedes appearance could possibly have noticeably changed as well. Therefor on the flier you see an array of dedes appearance, from thinner, to ones of her when she was actively running and a more fit appearance, to ones where she is heavier. IMO the reason for this was because it was not known what her exact appearance was on June 4th. Jmo

This is my opinion and view, just as it is an opinion that the pic of Terri that has part of a mouth and nose of the people she was next to(being K and D) were purposely put on the flier for "investigative" reasons.

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The TH support page is not linkable. Do not bring information here from that page please.

Peeps if you cannot link you cannot discuss.
 
Personally, this cruelty to a helpless animal in her care...just defines Dede and by virtue of their closeness, Teri Horman. No one can say now that this woman is not amused by suffering. That she cannot bear to see the helpless in distress. That she is a normal, feeling, caring woman.

No.

This is what she did to some thing helpless in her care. This is how she repaid the trust of the people who let her care for the dog. This is her tolerance, no...her amusement at pain.

Can you doubt she would blink at pain, suffering in a helpless child?

This speaks volumes about these woman and the capacity to inflict and enjoy pain...especially pain of the helpless.

I hope this is widely disseminated on the Internet. It is a window into the soul. Thank you so much for educating me.
 
The TH support page is not linkable. Do not bring information here from that page please.

The TH support page, or the DDS support page...or both? I thought if a page was public we could refer to what's on it...ala TH's page when it was public. Can you please clarify GJ? tia :)
 
The TH support page, or the DDS support page...or both? I thought if a page was public we could refer to what's on it...ala TH's page when it was public. Can you please clarify GJ? tia :)

Is the Dede support page open or set to private? Thanks.
 
OK sorry if it is open you can link to it and discuss but not quote from it. You cannot cut and paste here from FB. 10-4? No quoting.

And I would imagine someone should open a new thread. :biggrin: Since it may be a tad OT here.
 
I'm gonna have to leave it to you guys to wade through the baloney on both DeDe and Terri's facebook support pages. I honestly can't stomach it. I think these two women are two of the most vile human beings to breathe the same air that I do and I can't or won't glorify them by visiting those pages. It's disgusting to me that there are even people around that can support either of them and actually go to the trouble of making a support page for two people who are involved knee deep in the disappearance of a precious little boy. Gag, gag, gag, gag. JMO.
 
Over the past couple of days, there's been a lot of internet activity in regards to Dede Spicher--everything from support groups popping up to defenders posting hither and yon in defense of Dede. It seems almost reactionary.

Some people, here and elsewhere on the net, have said that they think that Staton's press conference last week (in which he announced the task force creation) seemed to indicate that Dede is no longer a suspect. I was not left with that impression, but I do feel that there are some pieces from a couple of recent pressers we've seen that may fit together in one fashion or another. To me, it appears that this investigation has moved from being a net cast wide in the beginning to a more focused investigation today--and I think that Dede remains a subject of the more focused investigation.

First, from mid August, we have MCSO Capt. Jason Gates responding to a question about the flier with Dede's photo: "That is a specific tool that the investigative team is using that was designed for a specific audience."

(Start THIS VIDEO at 7:45 to hear the question and Gates' response.)

Then, a month later (September 16), Staton speaks: We have closed multiple doors and have target areas that we are focusing on. It is not as broad as it was before. We have reached the point where we have closed a lot of questions we've had. ... After the briefing that I had last Friday I am very confident with continuing this investigation along the lines that we've already initiated....I believe that some of the info through some of the discussions--there are going to be concerns, not necessarily cases, there may be cases that come out of this but through the discussion there are going to be issues that the sheriff's office is going to have to address. I believe the Portland Police Bureau will be actively involved in that. A lot of these issues we won't address until we actually do a debrief on this investigation once it's come to a conclusion. There are a lot of issues that have developed. There is a lot of information that our detectives have developed through the course of this investigation that have developed some concerns, and I think that those concerns need to be addressed. Whether it's going to turn into an investigation and or a notification process to other government entities, that still remains to be accessed. (Are we talking criminal?) (Pause) I can't comment on that, not at this point.

Staton video Part 1 and Part 2.

I'd like to discuss this more--whether Dede and co. have gone into defensive mode because of something that's happened in the past couple of weeks. To be honest, things had seemed to died down as far as she was concerned. But just recently, a flurry of internet activity around Dede makes me wonder if something is going on with her again. The people who are posting around the internet on her behalf are doing so with her permission, or so they claim. WHY NOW?

The above quotations make me wonder just what she--or other unnamed potential suspects--were involved in. What would be the specific audience that Gates mentioned? Why would other governmental entities be notified, and especially the Portland Police Bureau?

It may seem like I'm stringing disparate pieces together, but I really don't feel that I am. Targeting a specific audience with a flier, and then stating that the investigation is becoming more focused and may result in other jurisdictions being notified. I won't even add to this the comment of Staton's that closed his presser, about people being surprised...

Any ideas anyone want to share?
I was intrigued by your post when I first read it this morning, Puf. Before answering, I followed your links to the videos from Sept 16th and Aug 11th (thanks for providing them) and reviewed them from start to finish. After doing so, I must say that I'm unable to connect the dots to your line of thinking. Nor do I find Staton's most recent statements to be especially cryptic.

Here are my thoughts:

August 11, 2010

  • The "specific tool" and "specific audience" statement merely refers to the residents of the neighborhoods where the fliers were distributed, or others who might've been in the area(s) at the designated times. I can't infer any other meaning.
September 16, 2010

  • LE initially approached the investigation from every conceivable angle, which is SOP and appropriate. (I was relieved to hear this because I had doubts about whether or not they were taking the "no stone unturned" approach.)
  • During the course of the investigation, LE has interviewed many different people who offered information from the different angles LE was investigating. Their statements spanned a broad spectrum.
  • After evaluating all of the gathered information, LE has concluded that they are on the right track.
"After the briefing that I had last Friday I am very confident with continuing this investigation along the lines that we've already initiated" Staton, 09/16/10​
  • I agree with you that DeDe is still in their crosshairs.
  • I have no idea what are the other issues that the sheriff's office must address, and I can't even speculate based on anything said in the Friday presser.
  • The statement I've placed in red text above tells me that they are not relevant to Kyron.
  • I had trouble hearing the question asked that led to Staton's reply about the "other issues". Was DeDe's name mentioned in the question? If not, then I can't conclude that the "other issues" concern her. But they might.
I haven't read the comments on the DeDe related sites yet (I will now, of course ;)). I might change my mind after I read them, but as it stands now, I don't see a connection between LE's statements and any recent increase of support for DeDe.

Just my thoughts at the moment, always subject to change.
 
Personally, this cruelty to a helpless animal in her care...just defines Dede and by virtue of their closeness, Teri Horman. No one can say now that this woman is not amused by suffering. That she cannot bear to see the helpless in distress. That she is a normal, feeling, caring woman.

No.

This is what she did to some thing helpless in her care. This is how she repaid the trust of the people who let her care for the dog. This is her tolerance, no...her amusement at pain.

Can you doubt she would blink at pain, suffering in a helpless child?

This speaks volumes about these woman and the capacity to inflict and enjoy pain...especially pain of the helpless.

I hope this is widely disseminated on the Internet. It is a window into the soul. Thank you so much for educating me.

I have no idea what cruelty you're referring to (will look into it further) but this post is pure poetry.
 
If you link to a site and it says *********** in the body of it, it has been blocked here for a specific reason. If you continue to refer to it, you can find yourself losing your posting privilege here for a time.

This has been repeated in this forum over and over and over again. If someone would like a link to a fact you've presented, please provide the link. If the link is blocked, please remove your post immediately or alert your post so a mod can do it for you.
 
yeah, well, i'm just saying.......it's a vague statement, and they're on the flier. I didn't create it and it has left a huge question mark.
I just watched the Aug. 11th video and had to chuckle when Capt. Gates stressed the importance of obtaining independent information not subject to suggestion.

I don't for a moment think LE meant to imply anything whatsoever about KH or DY in the flier. But you have doubts, and I have to wonder how many others do, as well. I agree it's vague, and LE was remiss in not completely obliterating DY's and KH's faces from the photos.
 
Can someone provide a link to where it's discussed/proved that Dede was cruel to a dog? I'm so lost.

:/
 
Personally, this cruelty to a helpless animal in her care...just defines Dede and by virtue of their closeness, Teri Horman. No one can say now that this woman is not amused by suffering. That she cannot bear to see the helpless in distress. That she is a normal, feeling, caring woman.

No.

This is what she did to some thing helpless in her care. This is how she repaid the trust of the people who let her care for the dog. This is her tolerance, no...her amusement at pain.

Can you doubt she would blink at pain, suffering in a helpless child?

This speaks volumes about these woman and the capacity to inflict and enjoy pain...especially pain of the helpless.

I hope this is widely disseminated on the Internet. It is a window into the soul. Thank you so much for educating me.

i think cypress (and others) would like a link to this information described above.
 
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