Adult Entertainment Industry: Case related

[genericwhitemale]

$1000.00 is NOT ALOT of money! HELLO!

It isn't? What do you do for work now?

 

[genericwhitemale]

My apologies for getting off topic, but I think this should be addressed.

 

[bessie]

This thread is for questions about the Adult Entertainment Industry as it relates to this case.

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Just be careful how you ask the questions.

 

[genericwhitemale]

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Just be careful how you ask the questions.

Will do. My apologies.

 

[MoonUnderfoot]

I think your heart is in the right place LINative13. I get what you're saying. The devil is in the details, as they say. I am also expanding my views on the subject and widening my perception to new, different possibilities. Money was obviously a big motivator for the victims. I think by Moon referring to her former clientele as "scumbags" she is subconsciously trying to downplay her role in the scenario. Let's keep it real, girl!

I am not playing down my role in anything. I'm WELL aware that my actions as a provider were less than classy, but when I refer to the 'scumbags'... I'm talking about the people you see all over UG, being disrespectful... Not the client who comes in and is a well mannered, gentleman. There is a very clear difference in the 2 types of johns, and I'm sorry that I wasn't clear and seemed as though I was labeling them all as scummy. That wasn't my intention. To me, scumbags are the guys interested in trains, and doing drugs, and being disrespectful. Again, sorry for any confusion. :great: :blushing:

 

[MoonUnderfoot]

Moon: Prostitutes are known to deal drugs to their clients. Do you thiunk that one of the girls could have been selling a bag and getin snatched by the drug addict they were selling too?

Anything is possible LIN13. I don't really know of any girls who have been on the dealer end. They usually tend to be on the addict end of the spectrum, sadly. I don't do any drugs, and I always urged any girls I met to never do drugs with their customers because it instantly puts them at a disadvantage. I cannot stress this enough!! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[MoonUnderfoot]

Perhaps. But $1,000 to those that work an honest job is a lot of cake! Come on now, Justice. Let's be realistic.

But, don't forget, to a good escort, $1,000 is nothing. :therethere::whipper::whip:

 

[MoonUnderfoot]

I bet our perp set up the weekend type dates that others have mentioned already. Build up the trust and then drop the guillotine. Moon, how much was your going rate for a 3 day weekend session?

I would never spend more than a few hours with a customer, I also never worked once the sun went down, never went to a customer, and never went to a hotel of their choice. It was always my way or no way. I can make more money staying at my location and seeing customers then to spend 3 days with someone.

 

[shadowraiths]

I could be wrong but wouldn't CL be one step above street walking? That is, there are escorts who have regular clientele, the sort that do not participate on sites like UG & LIE, and there are those who cast their nets wide, and there are those who fall somewhere in between. From my understanding high end escorts make a great deal of money, while having very few clients, and their services extend beyond sex. And they do not rely upon sites like CL to do so. If I'm wrong here, please feel free to correct.

 

[Just K]

Just to be clear: There doesn't seem to be that big of a difference between the old fashioned SW and the CL or the other many and varied internet site providers. IMO, the term "Escort" is used rather loosely and if we are to be perfectly honest they were not working as arm candy for some lonely businessmen at high-end functions. They were providing sexual services in spaces rented and provided for the sole purpose of selling sex.

I often don't agree with the likes of the scientist members here @ WS but in this case we have to be honest and keep emotions out of the equation.

 

[LINative13]

Anything is possible LIN13. I don't really know of any girls who have been on the dealer end. They usually tend to be on the addict end of the spectrum, sadly. I don't do any drugs, and I always urged any girls I met to never do drugs with their customers because it instantly puts them at a disadvantage. I cannot stress this enough!! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

I know. Alot of the time as somebody gets more and more addicted they will resort to selling it to "get theirs for free". Honestly if AC was doing dope (which it is well documented was her drug of choice) then all normal reasoning can be thrown out the window. Say she was out of dope. She speaks to a John (LISK) that has dope. If she was in withdrawal stage or approaching it and the LISK goes "I got a big bag of dope that we can shoot/sniff and $1500 for you if you spend the night with me and leave your phone at home." She would have done it, with no question.

Those that chase the dragon make poor decisions that usually result in a quick high followed by remorse for the act they just did. Which leads to more chasing the dragon to help them feel better, which then leads to more acts that are not par for the course morally. Its a vicous cycle that is tough to get out of.

 

[Tugela]

I could be wrong but wouldn't CL be one step above street walking? That is, there are escorts who have regular clientele, the sort that do not participate on sites like UG & LIE, and there are those who cast their nets wide, and there are those who fall somewhere in between. From my understanding high end escorts make a great deal of money, while having very few clients, and their services extend beyond sex. And they do not rely upon sites like CL to do so. If I'm wrong here, please feel free to correct.

The upper end streetwalkers of old and the ladies who would operate from clubs in the old days have mostly migrated to CL and similar services. Independent escorts use the online services as well, but you usually wont see the elite girls there. Mid level girls may advertise on CL, but they still operate as escorts, so you will see all sorts. The main dividing line is their fee, that generally determines the level they are and what sort of clients they typically see.

The girls charging 250 or less are the ones that would have been hightrack streetwalkers/bar girls in the old days.

 

[Justiceforever]

Perhaps. But $1,000 to those that work an honest job is a lot of cake! Come on now, Justice. Let's be realistic.

I stand by what I said. $1000.00 is NOT alot of money. I raised three children off of the HONEST income that I made working as an adult entertainer. $1000.00 barely paid the rent and bills for a month, not to mention clothes, food, gas, etc. So no, IMVHO.$1000.00 IS NOT ALOT of money. HELLO! I don't know where $1000.00 is ALOT of money.

 

[Just K]

To a hard working person who is paid $10.00 and hour that is 100 hours of work. To that person, $1,000 is definitely a lot of money. For a person who makes $4,000 a month or $48,000 a year, $1,000 IS 2.1% of their annual income but it is 25% of one month's income. If in one month that person somehow managed to lose that thousand dollars, then you can be assured that he/she would miss it. If he/she were to lose that much each month, then he/she will have lost $12,000 annually or 1/4 of his/her income. $1,000 means the world to a lot of Americans and even more to people in low paying and back breaking jobs.

 

[Justiceforever]

To a hard working person who is paid $10.00 and hour that is 100 hours of work. To that person, $1,000 is definitely a lot of money. For a person who makes $4,000 a month or $48,000 a year, $1,000 IS 2.1% of their annual income but it is 25% of one month's income. If in one month that person somehow managed to lose that thousand dollars, then you can be assured that he/she would miss it. If he/she were to lose that much each month, then he/she will have lost $12,000 annually or 1/4 of his/her income. $1,000 means the world to a lot of Americans and even more to people in low paying and back breaking jobs.

I've had my share of back breaking jobs, I just want to make that clear. I still don't think $1000.00 is alot of money.

I'd also like to add that while the money made in the industry may be "quick" money, it is in no way "easy" money. and certainly not enticing enough to have a train ran on me...would it be to you?? SMDH

 

[Just K]

I wouldn't give a HJ to a stranger for $1,000. So the question is lost on me. I also wouldn't participate in a wet t-shirt contest either. So, obviously (IMO) no amount of money is worth debasing oneself. But there are women and men who take money for very unappealing acts and the question is, who are they and what would they accept for allowing such offensive deeds to be perpetrated on them? I can tell you, that in reading the nastiness on LIE and UG, there are much worse activities being done to and with some women...perhaps with their bidding and for a fee. This gang mentality runs the gammit at those sites.

 

[Justiceforever]

Perhaps. But $1,000 to those that work an honest job is a lot of cake! Come on now, Justice. Let's be realistic.

And behind JustK's question came this. So maybe I can't win this arguement (I don't need to) but I can give my opinion as someone who has worked in the adult entertainment industry for 12 years. Take it or leave it.

 

[Just K]

It sounds to me, based on what I have read here, that most of the women were charging between $150 and $200 for an hour with one client. So that means that to get $1,000 they would have to see at least 5 if not 6.5 customers. In what, 4 or so hours? Really, what is the difference?

 

[Just K]

Aren't we really just splitting hairs, here?

 

[Justiceforever]

Perhaps. But $1,000 to those that work an honest job is a lot of cake! Come on now, Justice. Let's be realistic.

This is the type of arguement that most clients come up with when they can't imagine why a provider won't do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING for their hard earned money. The belief is...I busted my butt for this money, so you should too. I think not buddy!