AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 01 Feb 2012 - #6

[Fishermom]

A person can report their card being compromised, and the bank will reimburse your account for your loss. If you use a disguise to make withdrawals, not only do you get the money from the withdrawal, but you also get the money back from the bank. It's like double dipping.

Agree with AK907 too.

Interesting idea...but doesn't it seem like they STILL would have shut it off? I guess if they were trying to track/catch the thief, perhaps they would have left it on...?

 

[SmoothOperator]

TmC- Tammie counts which is CB-Christopher Bird's mother.
MP-Michael pedarock. Which is Sam's mother's Boyfriend's son.. some may refer to him as Sam's step brother.. MP and CB are also good friends..

 

[ryanemsmom]

Just thinking.. if person A is israel keyes that said he's truck was broke into on the same night and the card was taking by a man wearing a mask,glove hoodie shirt you know everything he had on at the time of the kidnapping so then he looks like a victim not a suspect..

This makes more sense of him having the dam pin

How could he be charged with a crime then? It isn't a crime to use your own debit card...

Maybe I'm just not getting where you are going with it either.

 

[ak907]

Interesting idea...but doesn't it seem like they STILL would have shut it off? I guess if they were trying to track/catch the thief, perhaps they would have left it on...?

I don"t know it seems if i call the police right now and say my card was stolen from my truck they would tell me to cancel it not lets wait and see if they buy anything with it.. I could see the police saying it now ohh they got your bank card please tell me you wrote the pin down for them on it.

 

[ak907]

How could he be charged with a crime then? It isn't a crime to use your own debit card...

Maybe I'm just not getting where you are going with it either.

OK i need sleep i guess!!

He would still have charges if they were following a card that was reported stolen and when they get to him find out the card is still in he's wallet you cant say its a new one because the bank would have gave you one with different numbers and security code..

Maybe i am not making sense to myself either.

what is the connection at first, well the man that took SK had hat,hoody,mask,

guy that broke in to IK( or known as person A) truck had hat,hoody,mask

O look that card that was report stolen by IK is being used SK might be alive
o wait its IK using the card.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

There are no counties or sheriffs or any of that in Alaska. If you saw it in a movie or a book, they got it wrong.

The way the system works here is you have local cops and then state troopers. If a crime occurs in a city area then it is usually within the jurisdiction of the local cops. If it occurs anywhere else it's in the jurisdiction of the troopers. The troopers' jurisdiction is quite extensive as it includes all the little towns and villages that do not have their own police force.

Wanted to say thanks so much for explaining this. I'd imagine with the terrain & weather there, le would have to know more than your average Joe here in Jersey. I mean crime is crime, but crime in such a diverse community with people, as well as terrain, then paired with sub zero freezing heavy weather, well they'd really need to know the comings & goings in their surroundings.

 

[ak81]

TmC- Tammie counts which is CB-Christopher Bird's mother.
MP-Michael pedarock. Which is Sam's mother's Boyfriend's son.. some may refer to him as Sam's step brother.. MP and CB are also good friends..

MP is Michael (Mike) Pedersen. Pedarock is his "rapper name" (just wanted to clarify that)

Also, was it ever completely figured out what Sam's relationship with MP is? (because Sam's mom isn't engaged to MP's dad.. MP's parents are listed as married on FB). Can't remember if that was ever cleared up or not.
Probably isn't important anyway..

 

[Deleted member 718]

That is a definite look-alike. But the bank robbery was March 16th and Keyes was already in jail March 13th?

 

[ak907]

That is a definite look-alike. But the bank robbery was March 16th and Keyes was already in jail March 13th?

Says bank was robbed on feb 17th 2012

correction surveillance video says 2/16/12

 

[Fishermom]

That is a definite look-alike. But the bank robbery was March 16th and Keyes was already in jail March 13th?

Middle picture appears to be dated 2-16-201-

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe LE is hoping that is anyone had seen the truck they might lead in a direction to search for Samantha?

 

[GutFeeling!]

I think it's important to note that he took $1000 out of the ATM before leaving Anchorage and then popped up again in Arizona in a week.

$1,000 is enough to get you to Arizona from Anchorage and a week is enough time to drive there.

But why wouldn't he use the ATM card anywhere in between?

I bolded

Maybe waiting on money. IF this money was coming from a reward fund then the initial deposits go in and "maybe" someone got a litle nervous making withdrawals all the time so waited a couple of days to do one big deposit.

Moo ... I am not sure but I think we will have some big news really soon.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

A person can report their card being compromised, and the bank will reimburse your account for your loss. If you use a disguise to make withdrawals, not only do you get the money from the withdrawal, but you also get the money back from the bank. It's like double dipping.

Agree with AK907 too.

But the bank would shut down the account wouldn't they? If it was reported as stolen nobody would be able to withdraw money.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I don"t know it seems if i call the police right now and say my card was stolen from my truck they would tell me to cancel it not lets wait and see if they buy anything with it.. I could see the police saying it now ohh they got your bank card please tell me you wrote the pin down for them on it.

Ok, lemme speculate for a quick sec...

Man dressed in dark hoodie & cap robs & abducts Sam from work at The Common Grounds. media released statements from le informing suspect's face was hidden. I speculate he could have been wearing a ski mask.

Man witnesses his car being broken into by a dude in a ski mask & dark clothing, yada yada. He calls it into police. Police have seen video of Sam's abduction & say wait a sec, don't deactivate the card, let's track this cat. Behind the scenes le could have been working with the financial institution, which is a credit union (cu's don't play games for anyone that isn't familiar).

Police think maybe there's a chance Sam is alive, so they continue to track this card while also investigating her disappearance.

MO changes, stops wearing ski mask & starts wearing construction dust mask & goggles.

LE asks around about a truck spotted in surveillance. They get lucky. They go to his place of residence & speak with neighbors, find out he's on vacay in TX for a wedding, decide to tail him. They latch onto him by finding that the debits are from withdrawals leading right to TX.

Seems the theft was right after Sam went missing. Could it be drug related? Could he have been a stalker? Could this have been random?

Drug bust from January has the female driver incriminated in the biggest bust in the state's history (where the blow was meant for AK as it's final destination). She snitches to save her azz, she has kid's, etc. This is an educated woman, however she was involved in a sex study through the university which in itself has my hinky meter ringing off the charts! Well that cocaine came from Vegas. In her MS she informs she's stopping in Vegas on her way to TX. She has ties also in UT & WA. Hmmm. So does IK.

Dec 6th is when the guy that was just found in that park in AK went missing. His car was found incinerated. His death was ruled a homicide. He was arrested previously & found guilty on 2 felony drug charges. That's a big deal in AK considering weed is legal, & he was found recently by a snowshoer.

That lil old lady that was murdered the same week Sam was abducted. Did they find her killer? Was she missing anything?

The guy that had his card stolen - what about the PIN? Maybe the authorities worked with him & had it changed to 0000 or 1234 or 8910, something generic that could be hacked easily? Maybe?

If drugs factor in with Sam's disappearance, then I think the supplier/distributor is in Vegas or TX. TX would be easy to obtain the drugs whereas Vegas could be the stopover for the money. Money could easily be laundered in Vegas, not as easy in TX. Then maybe the stops in NM & AZ to rob accts would be to get enough funding so he could purchase his own stash to sell for profit.

IK doesn't look like a drug abuser so I'm thrown off. Could SK have been in a relationship with him & he abducted her out of retaliation bc she wouldn't leave DT? Or could this all be over drugs?

Contractor, works alone, keeps low profile - could very well fit the bill of a dealer and/or distributor. Could also fit the sociopathy associated with a kidnapper, killer.

Creeps me out...

 

[Jersey*Girl]

But the bank would shut down the account wouldn't they? If it was reported as stolen nobody would be able to withdraw money.

Not all the time, though, especially if le is working hand in hand with the financial institution.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I don"t know it seems if i call the police right now and say my card was stolen from my truck they would tell me to cancel it not lets wait and see if they buy anything with it.. I could see the police saying it now ohh they got your bank card please tell me you wrote the pin down for them on it.

Except in this case the owner of the vehicle that was being rummaged through gave a perfect description of Samantha's abductor, & le already had the disguise info in their paperwork. So maybe le put 2 & 2 together & decided to follow it as a lead that connects both cases.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Except in this case the owner of the vehicle that was being rummaged through gave a perfect description of Samantha's abductor, & le already had the disguise info in their paperwork. So maybe le put 2 & 2 together & decided to follow it as a lead that connects both cases.

Yes, I think this is exactly what happened.

But I don't think that is what the OP that you responded to was referring to

 

[ak907]

But the bank would shut down the account wouldn't they? If it was reported as stolen nobody would be able to withdraw money.

If I call the police and say my card was stolen they take my info down and thats it.. I never call and cancel the card...


The card was reported before SK was Reported missing so he's covering Tracks someone broke in to my truck fits the same description as in the video for SK APD watch's the account and see's the card being used they follow it for several days and realize it's IK,,


Like every one has said who the hell is up looking out the window at 3 in the morning and does nothing about someone breaking into there truck and top it off they got the pin and to top it off some more to be able to see the person(mask and all) that just happens to be the one that is GOING to be wanted for kidnapping..

 

[SmoothOperator]

MP is Michael (Mike) Pedersen. Pedarock is his "rapper name" (just wanted to clarify that)

Also, was it ever completely figured out what Sam's relationship with MP is? (because Sam's mom isn't engaged to MP's dad.. MP's parents are listed as married on FB). Can't remember if that was ever cleared up or not.
Probably isn't important anyway..

Thanks regardless of whether its important or not its still info I did not know.. so I greatly appreciate your stating the correct last name.. lol.. Pedarock was the only way I'd seen it

 

[ak907]

I am sorry really to confuse you guys its probably nothing i was just thinking as i was trying to nap about how the hell he knows the pin and the ways he could know it and i thought well if it was he's card he would know the pin so that got me to thinking he called in and made a false report about the card being stolen.


again sorry