AK AK - Steve Keel, 61, missing from hunting trip, from TN - Aug 27, 2022

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Also, it doesn't sound like SK had binoculars with him. Those poles would just blend into the landscape.

I was wondering how big the backpack of meat was, but not that big if he left a trekking pole to mark it.
A trekking pole isn't that big in height either, so it was unlikely he was actually going to see it....but he thought he'd be able to! So that to me indicates scrambled thinking and not judging the territory and distances correctly.

Sure, use a pole to mark something in a garden or small park......not out in the wilderness if the Arctic tundra.
 
I thought it looked like one antler was pressed into the soil - tips up. I'm not sure an antler could naturally dig itself in, and, if it did, seems like that would normally by tip down. IDK though - just what I thought looking at the video.
From the weight of snow, presence of water, mud, wind, silt... An animal sat on it, kicked it, buried it for later...
 
I was wondering how big the backpack of meat was, but not that big if he left a trekking pole to mark it.
A trekking pole isn't that big in height either, so it was unlikely he was actually going to see it....but he thought he'd be able to! So that to me indicates scrambled thinking and not judging the territory and distances correctly.

Sure, use a pole to mark something in a garden or small park......not out in the wilderness if the Arctic tundra.
SK's poles really blend into the landscape, and no one has suggested he tied a bright bandanna to it..
 
Maybe Steve found that first pole and went in wrong direction from there?
Yes, he might have thought he saw the meat pile pole, got out there, and lost sight of the pole nearer camp.... Then scrambled around looking for poles. He might not have wanted to believe he was lost.
Losing the pole, also meant SK lost his prize, the meat. I imagine this would make him panic. Then, instead of getting his buddy to come and help him, he got in a frenzy trying to find it. All the while, getting sweatier, in a setting where "sweaty" is dangerous because it makes you wet... Hypothermia.
 
Yes, he might have thought he saw the meat pile pole, got out there, and lost sight of the pole nearer camp.... Then scrambled around looking for poles. He might not have wanted to believe he was lost.
Losing the pole, also meant SK lost his prize, the meat. I imagine this would make him panic. Then, instead of getting his buddy to come and help him, he got in a frenzy trying to find it. All the while, getting sweatier, in a setting where "sweaty" is dangerous because it makes you wet... Hypothermia.
Add the male pride to the mix... Maybe Steve, a seasoned outdorsman and hunter did not want to admit to himself that he got lost so easily, did not want to look bad in the eyes of his partner and so he tried to find his way back on his own, which ended with him venturing even deeper into tundra.
 
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If he needed a second trekking pole to indicate "direction of travel" to me that indicates the stashed pack was not visible from base camp. it also means (to me) that it was far enough out to easily get lost in this terrain with no trails and minimal guideposts and no GPS. Everything I read here says "complacency" and there are no indications (IMO) of any sort of foul play or self-harm.

In hindsight, the friend should have accompanied him, he should have had a GPS, etc. But this happens all the time, even to very experienced outdoors people, especially when it seems like a very simple task (relative to all the huge treks they had surely been making to actually hunt). I sincerely hope he is found to bring closure and also end any potentially hurtful speculation.
It still doesn't make any sense how Steve has not been spotted in one way or another. If sadly he has passed away then why haven't any sign of him shown up, clothes shredded by scavengers or a hat or anything, something. The backpack he used to carry meat from the cache shouldn't have been that tough for him to carry as he could have rested intermitantly for a short distance and then continued back pausing all the way back to the camp.??????
 
It still doesn't make any sense how Steve has not been spotted in one way or another. If sadly he has passed away then why haven't any sign of him shown up, clothes shredded by scavengers or a hat or anything, something. The backpack he used to carry meat from the cache shouldn't have been that tough for him to carry as he could have rested intermitantly for a short distance and then continued back pausing all the way back to the camp.??????
I know. A lot of questions, yet unanswered. It almost makes me ask if he could have been picked up on the Dalton Highway. Could there have been foul play?
 
I was wondering how big the backpack of meat was, but not that big if he left a trekking pole to mark it.
A trekking pole isn't that big in height either, so it was unlikely he was actually going to see it....but he thought he'd be able to! So that to me indicates scrambled thinking and not judging the territory and distances correctly.

Sure, use a pole to mark something in a garden or small park......not out in the wilderness if the Arctic tundra.
I wonder if there is a confusion here the pole was a makeshift cache/rucksac/pack for their (both of them) stash of caribou meat, it wasn't just Steve's it was also his partners portion also if I'm getting this straight. So as I imagine it this stash was a quarter mile from their camp. I haven't been keeping up with this post lately but has this changed. Obviously they don't want to have all the caribou meat in their main camp nor the van. I would imagine only enough to cook up and eat then and there. Or phowever it is prepared but just that portion for that meal for obvious reasons like wildlife.
 
It still doesn't make any sense how Steve has not been spotted in one way or another. If sadly he has passed away then why haven't any sign of him shown up, clothes shredded by scavengers or a hat or anything, something. The backpack he used to carry meat from the cache shouldn't have been that tough for him to carry as he could have rested intermitantly for a short distance and then continued back pausing all the way back to the camp.??????
The other thing that seems off to me, is that the meat pack was only .6 miles from camp. How did he get lost in such a short distance. That’s almost nothing.
And As in the video on the Search for Steve FB page, the guy could see the Caribou a long distance off. Things don’t add up to me, IMO.
 
From the weight of snow, presence of water, mud, wind, silt... An animal sat on it, kicked it, buried it for later...
I can imagine however it would be difficult for an animal to bury it lik that. The antlers have to be manouvered into the position to stand & stay upright like that. An animal probably wouldn't be able to do it that perfectly. I saw the video of Chet pointing it out.
 
Maybe Steve found that first pole and went in wrong direction from there?
So in other words he couldn't see the second pole from where he was I would have to assume. But the thing I don't understand is apart from the rolling hills the view is not obscured. So if he got to the first pole then if his view wasn't obscured I don't understand how he couldn't see he other pole?
 
I wonder if there is a confusion here the pole was a makeshift cache/rucksac/pack for their (both of them) stash of caribou meat, it wasn't just Steve's it was also his partners portion also if I'm getting this straight. So as I imagine it this stash was a quarter mile from their camp. I haven't been keeping up with this post lately but has this changed. Obviously they don't want to have all the caribou meat in their main camp nor the van. I would imagine only enough to cook up and eat then and there. Or phowever it is prepared but just that portion for that meal for obvious reasons like wildlife.
I get it now. But if one disregards the part about the stash being both of theirs then my points still stand and thus the questions I'm asking. Sorry. I saw the videos and am more caught up now. Thanks.
 
So in other words he couldn't see the second pole from where he was I would have to assume. But the thing I don't understand is apart from the rolling hills the view is not obscured. So if he got to the first pole then if his view wasn't obscured I don't understand how he couldn't see he other pole?
The pole was dark coloured, not that easy to spot. I think Steve saw something dark in a distance, thought it was the near pole and went into it's direction. When he found out this something was not the pole, the first pole was already out of his sight.
 
The pole was dark coloured, not that easy to spot. I think Steve saw something dark in a distance, thought it was the near pole and went into it's direction. When he found out this something was not the pole, the first pole was already out of his sight.
Well, ok if it was a dark color I can understand that being missed. But I wonder what direction the second pole was in? Was it straight ahead or was it at another angle on the path towards the base camp that Stev and his hunting partner were staing at. I would also think if the pole was dark in color could it be that it was low to the ground and missed because it was camoflauged or was it high enough to not be camoflauged?
 
It still doesn't make any sense how Steve has not been spotted in one way or another. If sadly he has passed away then why haven't any sign of him shown up, clothes shredded by scavengers or a hat or anything, something. The backpack he used to carry meat from the cache shouldn't have been that tough for him to carry as he could have rested intermitantly for a short distance and then continued back pausing all the way back to the camp.??????
It doesn’t surprise me at all that searches haven’t found SK. This is true of a high percentage of wilderness missing cases.
 
The pole was dark coloured, not that easy to spot. I think Steve saw something dark in a distance, thought it was the near pole and went into it's direction. When he found out this something was not the pole, the first pole was already out of his sight.
What I think, too. He might even have come to a place where he couldn’t see either.

If he set the compass to go from one pole to the other, there was a high likelihood he’d get lost. Just a direction in degrees between 2 points wouldn’t get him there (per junior high geometry, you could end up in a line parallel that would miss it altogether). You’d need the EXACT point of the cache to get there.
The direction is complicated by the fact that it would be pretty much impossible to walk in a straight line in that terrain.
 
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Well, ok if it was a dark color I can understand that being missed. But I wonder what direction the second pole was in? Was it straight ahead or was it at another angle on the path towards the base camp that Stev and his hunting partner were staing at. I would also think if the pole was dark in color could it be that it was low to the ground and missed because it was camoflauged or was it high enough to not be camoflauged?
There was a photo ^^^^^ of the pole sticking out of the tundra. I suppose, even though they weren’t hunting when they set the pole, they only had camo with them? There wasn’t a colored bandana/shirt/rag tied to the pole in the photo.

If they had tied a bandanna on it, and used their duct tape (standard to carry at least a couple of feet of duct tape) to attach one pole to the other, they’d have had a long pole, and it would be a lot more visible above the vegetation.
 
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