Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, prisoner, & Vicky Sue White (Deceased), CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22 *Reward* #5

[Lexiintoronto]

I searched, but I don’t understand the end timeline. From what I understand:

-suspect vehicle is spotted by LE and followed
-the 911 dispatcher said Vicky was on 911 saying she had her finger on the trigger (when?)
-VW crashes
-CW is pulled from the vehicle and has a slight injury to the head from a gunshot (not apparent in mugshot)
-VW is trapped in the vehicle and when pulled out is unresponsive, dies at hospital

So when she saw she was being pursued she drove into the grass, called 911 (?), shot herself and then crashed? (Possibly LE hit the vehicle.)

 

[FULLOFHOPE]

IDK it’s probably just a coincidence but I have pondered whether he admitted to the murder of CR to get out of prison knowing he was in for 75 years. Knowing he would be transferred to co. jail to meet with lawyers. Better chance of escape, which failed once and was successful the secong time.

Jmo

Could he have read about CR’s murder while in prison.

Jmo

Yeah I feel like given long enough, he will attempt again. What does he have to lose? Do I think he will be successful? No. MOO

 

[bamachick]

I had to sleep on all of this but have something to share from a medical perspective (obviously I am in medicine, let me qualify—not psych med). Still….

Looking at this from medicine:

-She is in her late 50s, Same job same home. Apparently not many (if any) truly close women friends. Maybe more of a loner? Less prone to share feelings or open up
-only married 3 years of those 50+ years. Not long. So no real long term relationships with someone other than her mom
-took care of ex in her own home as he died of Parkinson’s (so I have read here in Alabama). He died in Jan. No doubt that also took a toll
-that job was probably her heart and soul. Everything she had. That was ending
-Everything points to long term clinical depression. The “endings” that had occurred or were occurring. The glance back at her life and maybe feeling very unfulfilled
-bam. Here comes CW and he makes her feel alive for maybe the first time in her life.
-Cut to severe clinical depression, able to feel good about a new “beginning” with CW, maybe even unrealistically believing she and he would be the first ones to ever evade and live happily ever after. She was giddy. Night at hotel prior to leaving. Probably trying on that lingerie and anticipating her nights to come. Buying clothes and dressing him the way she wanted to see him. Etc

When it became painfully obvious that she was not getting her Disney ending and this too was “over” her mind could not take anymore “endings”. So much so that she took that gun and purposefully ended her mental misery.

It would be nice to think that LE would really start to pay more attention to employees facing tragic life event(s) or life changing event(s). Look for signs of depression, making life changing decisions not in their best interest (ie selling her home and land for less than 1/2 value), etc.

If she truly had long term depression what a missed opportunity to help her and maybe avoid this whole thing. That’s just MOO. I am standing by long-standing, deep rooted clinical depression.

Maybe she was an organ donor and this tragic ending gives others new life.

Last, Websleuths everywhere—-you have amazed me! I enjoyed watching this unfold through your eyes. Incredible site!

 

[FULLOFHOPE]

I searched, but I don’t understand the end timeline. From what I understand:

-suspect vehicle is spotted by LE and followed
-the 911 dispatcher said Vicky was on 911 saying she had her finger on the trigger (when?)
-VW crashes
-CW is pulled from the vehicle and has a slight injury to the head from a gunshot (not apparent in mugshot)
-VW is trapped in the vehicle and when pulled out is unresponsive, dies at hospital

So when she saw she was being pursued she drove into the grass, called 911 (?), shot herself and then crashed? (Possibly LE hit the vehicle.)

Same. They evidently had an AR and a shotgun?? (I think) and she shot herself while driving in a high speed chase with a long gun? It just sounds so confusing. MOO

 

[SMK777]

There is a news story out there casting doubt on whether VW pulled the trigger. I am not sure if I'm allowed to mention outside sources - or if you all even *like* this outside source - I'll just say it sounds like The Mailey Dail.

The Sheriff actually proposed the idea.

 

[SMK777]

I think the sheriff publicly stated that she might not have pulled the trigger though, someone posted it last night.

Yes, he did.

 

[Kapua]

We were so sure that this was well planned and that they would be off the grid and well hidden for a good period of time.

How wrong were we??? Lol

It seems that they may have had a bit of a plan but that unravelled quickly.

Buying 3 vehicles and then leaving them in conspicuous places is a head scratcher for sure.

Evansville, Indiana. Huh. Why there? Why a motel? Why stay there and not keep moving? They could have been far away by now. They had the means but I guess no real plan unless someone decided to change the plan.

MOO

Had it been well-planned and executed they could have remained hidden for a good period of time.

I don't know about anyone else, but I was very wrong. The escape itself was relatively well-planned with the exception of the first orange getaway vehicle. They got out of the state before anyone knew they were missing, switched vehicles, and disappeared. I thought for sure she would have rented and stocked a hideout - a little cabin off the beaten path. Why purchase three vehicles and then stay in a motel? When and from whom did they purchase the other two vehicles? Why the green spray paint? And why leave a perfectly good running vehicle in a car wash bay? Did he not notice the camera in the car wash?

And LE in this case dropped the ball more than once, IMHO, from the jailbreak to not taking the car wash operator seriously.

I am glad this criminal is off the streets, but very, very surprised by the outcome.

RIP Vicky

 

[wary]

Same. They evidently had an AR and a shotgun?? (I think) and she shot herself while driving in a high speed chase with a long gun? It just sounds so confusing. MOO

Since they seem to have had at least one handgun, (her duty weapon,) I’d guess that that’s what she used.

 

[concernedmother]

Wonder if at some point she realized that reality was nothing like the fantasy . Maybe that's why they stayed in Evansville. She knew that at some point they would be caught and she couldn't bear facing everyone. Such a sad ending.

 

[passionflower]

Everyone has a boss, who actually was VW’s? I know she was honored as a terrific high postition guard but who did she answer to? IMOO better training and rotate guards around so they can’t get close to inmates

 

[bestill]

I read a few pages back that VW bought all three get away vehicles, is that true? I'm so confused by this. If she owned the F150 and it wasn't a stolen truck why did they dump it in that bizarre way last Tuesday and drive away in their third vehicle? I really have more questions today than I did yesterday. Why stay in Evansville for that long when you literally were a week ahead of LE. It's like they wanted to get caught. You know they had access to TV and internet so they were up to date on the news. For this to have started out with what seemed a well orchistrated plan it sure ended with pfft. Don't get me wrong I'm thankful they were caught and it's over!

 

[orchidaceaes]

Correct, it was a Singleton speculation, which I don't consider him a credible source. I'd take it more seriously if it came from one of the other Sheriffs, the US Marshals, etc.

Sheriff Wedding said on the Today show that she had a gun in her hand when she was found unresponsive in the car:

To me that is more indicative of suicide, I know we'll find out more from the autopsy but I doubt CW would have been quick enough to put the gun in her hand before they were apprehended

 

[LostOldUserName]

Casey has court today at 10 cst Indiana Supreme Court public access case search - MyCase

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Had it been well-planned and executed they could have remained hidden for a good period of time.

I don't know about anyone else, but I was very wrong. The escape itself was relatively well-planned with the exception of the first orange getaway vehicle. They got out of the state before anyone knew they were missing, switched vehicles, and disappeared. I thought for sure she would have rented and stocked a hideout - a little cabin off the beaten path. Why purchase three vehicles and then stay in a motel? When and from whom did they purchase the other two vehicles? Why the green spray paint? And why leave a perfectly good running vehicle in a car wash bay? Did he not notice the camera in the car wash?

And LE in this case dropped the ball more than once, IMHO, from the jailbreak to not taking the car wash operator seriously.

I am glad this criminal is off the streets, but very, very surprised by the outcome.

RIP Vicky

I don't think we know yet what exactly her plan was. She might have wanted to have it end this way. It wouldn't surprise me if they made a suicide pact and that she was more serious about it than he was and didn't try to hard to hide. I do for instance wonder if she had a terminal illness and/or chronic pain, like treating chronic pain that might be why she tanned rather than out of vanity.

 

[waldojabba]

BBM below - Sheriff Singleton is kind of just not stating the facts -
When he says he would not be surprised if VW did not shoot herself he goes on to say
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT


https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1523853599750737921?s=20&t=ftvUSRofL2p9imjYeitC3w

Brian Entin
@BrianEntin

Sheriff Singleton said he would not be surprised if the Vicky White gunshot wound was actually not self inflicted. He says there is no evidence to suggest that -- and he will wait on forensics -- but that it is "possible."


10:33 PM · May 9, 2022·Twitter Web App

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Doesn't it feel just so strange.... we are all feeling like better criminals that they were......
In the end, we see so so so many wrong moves.

One thing (among many) that just sticks in my craw is ... "why oh why did they not change the Tennessee plates on that F150"? Would have been sooooo easy. If Indiana plates, or Florida plates were on it, the car wash guy might never have called it in.

 

[bestill]

I am assuming that any of her personal effects will be returned to her mother including any money that she had once the investigation is complete?

 

[SteveP]

Sheriff Wedding said on the Today show that she had a gun in her hand when she was found unresponsive in the car:

To me that is more indicative of suicide, I know we'll find out more from the autopsy but I doubt CW would have been quick enough to put the gun in her hand before they were apprehended

We will indeed get far more information from the autopsy, but LE surely already knows for certain who fired the shot that killed VW. Even before autopsy, I am certain her hands, and CW's hands, when he was arrested and taken into custody, were swabbed, and I am sure the US Marshall's office surely has the equipment to check for gunshot residue, which would ascertain or eliminate someone as being the shooter. JMO

Gun shot residue is tested by lifting samples off a defendant's hands or clothing and then testing to see if the lifts contain a fused particle of barium, antimony, and lead, which are known to be present in GSR.

 

[orchidaceaes]

I am assuming that any of her personal effects will be returned to her mother including any money that she had once the investigation is complete?

I know you might be talking about money in her accounts here but it reminded me about the tens of thousands that she withdrew. If that was found on her person or in the car would that be seized because of civil forfeiture? I would doubt it would just be given back.

 

[passionflower]

I am assuming that any of her personal effects will be returned to her mother including any money that she had once the investigation is complete?

I would hope so but might be called evidence? Since CW is a lifer and only VW died by her own hand? Will there be a trial of any kind? Or just add to his sentence already?