AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #4

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I checked page 43 of thread 1 and can’t find anything about that but if I’m very interested- anyway you can link to the page with that info?

It is thread #1, post #813 posted by our VI. I have copious notes. lol

I am a long time lurker at WS and this thread has really caught my attention because of how bizarre it is shaping up to be. I have been reluctant to post because this case seems very sticky as far as possibly breaking TOS, so if I do, I apologize. One thing I keep coming back to is what is the motivation behind JDT chronically changing information? What is not being said or done by the JDT family? If JDT had a loving relationship and if TT and DNV were dating when DNV disappeared, why were they so indifferent about getting her phone back as well as waiting so long to report her disappearance under suspicious circumstances? This is incongruent behavior. IMOO, it could possibly be anything from TT/JDT/JDT family involvement in DNV's disappearance to them not being involved but DNV's disappearance is "convenient" as far as custody and their family life and dynamics.

I did not see the CCTV video but I am wondering to anyone who saw the video: how long were car 2 & 3 shown together before the aired CCTV clip ended?
 
Thanks for such a complete local picture of Mobile.

You also bring up some great points about the money to buy car and towing cars in Mobile. We talked alot on an earlier thread about where the money might have come from for the car. DNV supposedly owned a previous Chevy Cruze that was crashed by someone else (believed to be TT) that might have gotten her some insurance money and she had also had a baby in June 2018 that was given up for adoption and this might have resulted in a sizable cash payment as well. By all accounts she was back to working double shifts 2 weeks after giving birth so she was a very hard worker too.

The towing situation in Mobile as you mentioned is interesting too. I've been tracking the cars going to auction to see if DNV car pops up and it hasn't so far so I hope MPD has a BOLO out for car (sadly this has never been confirmed by MPD) and is searching impound lots and independent contractors like you described.

This case is unlike any missing persons case I've seen as there have been next to no searches of locations around the missing site, waterways and rivers, downtown parking garages etc. with the exception of the Dykes house related to JCD arrest. No mention has been made as to whether the Mobile 'family' or friends ever checked local hospitals weekly and impound lots. My guess is that because none of this searching seems to have ever happened that MPD might know who abducted DNV but perhaps don't know where she was taken or her body disposed of. Just a guess but the lack of activity on the ground seach side of a missing case leads me to believe something else is going on here as no police department could be so inept IMO. I'm not sure why local friends and Mobile 'family' haven't mobilized for some simple searching around the Shell site or downtown parking decks? Individuals can do alot in terms of searching but in this case nothing ever seems to happen and I truly don't know why?

Is payment to birth mothers at adoption a thing? That seems...weird.
 
Okay- building from @3dzer0's post

FACTS
  • DNV was occupying 2014 Chevrolet Cruz with a green and white Pearl Motors tag. (Confirmed via Pearl Motors FB page and LE's blog.)
  • Pearl Motors website states they've been in business since 1966. They finance and advertise "your credit is good at Pearl Motors". Anything confirming DNV actually bought the car, either through financing/cash, or was it just the last vehicle she was seen in? It appears all recent articles have moved away from her owning and/or driving the vehicle.
Thank you this summary.
Car Purchase: The only information we have to support car purchase was statement from JDT that she dropped off DVN at Pearl Motors to pick up the car. When asked what time the drop off happened JDT 'couldn't recall'. Pearl Motors posted pictures of the actual DNV vehicle on their website and at one point I believe they had a missing picture posted on their FB page. When I went looking for the car pictures last week I did not see the missing poster but the car pictures were still available on the Pearl Motors FB page. We don't know how DNV was able to afford a car or even if she purchased it herself as LE has released no information. We do know her prior car (also Chevy Cruze) was wrecked so speculation is that money might have been there from any insurance settlement along with savings and any money from 6/18 baby adoption to cover a car purchase. These are all anecdotes and speculation. The short answer is we don't know how she was able to afford a relatively newish used car.
 
Is payment to birth mothers at adoption a thing? That seems...weird.
Yes, depending on the circumstances legal private adoption can bring good medical care and significant cash to birth mothers as can surrogacy arrangements. We have no details on financial arrangements, if any associated with DNV adoption in 6/18.
 
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Is payment to birth mothers at adoption a thing? That seems...weird.

You are definitely not allowed to just pay someone for a baby or I'd have 5 by now. But if a woman agrees to give up her child through an adoption agency, she's often compensated for pregnancy-related expenses. Without getting political at all, many pro-life groups want to encourage adoption so they try to make it easier (financially) for a woman to have that choice.
 
So do yall think this means that DW is being confirmed as car #3???

No, I think JDT knows exactly what we know. LE will not release information to someone who is not next-of-kin or a blood relative to a missing person. I do think she editorializes to make it seem like she knows more than she does but the rules are the rules. JV may actually know something as DNV's mother.
 
No, I think JDT knows exactly what we know. LE will not release information to someone who is not next-of-kin or a blood relative to a missing person. I do think she editorializes to make it seem like she knows more than she does but the rules are the rules. JV may actually know something as DNV's mother.

JV stated in another group last night that evidence from the JCD raid was still being processed, but didn't elaborate further.

Also, my question to the JDT statement- if LE told her that, did they tell her for sure that DW and DNV were the only ones in the vehicles? Going back to my earlier post today- going back through MSM articles- they use phrases like DNV was "occupying the car" or "riding in the car" or "with the car" which still leaves open the possibility that she was not the driver of her car.
 
Although JV decided to speak on one of the closed FB pages I am thankful that she is speaking out. I am also glad how she responded when asked about the discrepancies on DNVs age, etc...stating that she is DNVs mother. This case is all so tragic and I seriously hope there are some answers soon.
 
I cannot remember where I read it for the first time- but I saw something that said there was possibly another surveillance video showing DNV at another location. Has anyone else read this? I didn't know if it was before or after the Shell that may be a lot more helpful in getting public information.
 
Although JV decided to speak on one of the closed FB pages I am thankful that she is speaking out. I am also glad how she responded when asked about the discrepancies on DNVs age, etc...stating that she is DNVs mother. This case is all so tragic and I seriously hope there are some answers soon.

I still find it incredibly odd that she would wait this long to say anything at all. Regardless where she lives she could have easily been VERY active in the ongoing search. She has posted literally a handful of times about her daughter missing. As a parent of 4 daughters I call BS on her actions.
 
I cannot remember where I read it for the first time- but I saw something that said there was possibly another surveillance video showing DNV at another location. Has anyone else read this? I didn't know if it was before or after the Shell that may be a lot more helpful in getting public information.
Yes, there was another report in MSM early in the case that CCTV footage from across the street had been accessed. I unfortunately didn't save the article but that article is now gone along with so many of the early reports that now have broken links. Someone doesn't want those early articles to be seen IMO. LE never confirmed any other CCTV had been found but did say they were looking for additional CCTV. Frustrating situation.
 
I cannot remember where I read it for the first time- but I saw something that said there was possibly another surveillance video showing DNV at another location. Has anyone else read this? I didn't know if it was before or after the Shell that may be a lot more helpful in getting public information.

Mobile woman missing for 43 days now, fundraising events planned to help family

JDT mentions homicide detectives may have additional video of DNV that they haven’t released in the article above:

Quoted from article:

According to police, she was captured on surveillance video leaving, but where she went next is still a mystery.

"Homicide is looking into that. They say they may have some more footage of her but they're not ready to let that out, so we really don't have a starting point to look," Thomas said.
 
I still find it incredibly odd that she would wait this long to say anything at all. Regardless where she lives she could have easily been VERY active in the ongoing search. She has posted literally a handful of times about her daughter missing. As a parent of 4 daughters I call BS on her actions.
The family dynamics certainly seem complicated. But JV allegedly received threats that she reported to LE and there was a very early FB showdown with JDT regarding go fund me which kicked off some very unfortunate FB exchanges.
 
I think we have to all remember that this story was not released by LE. We have no evidence that DW ever spoke to the media. All the MSM stories, including the early live videos, say "The family reports..." "The family says that the friend said..."

DW may have told this to JDT in confidence, not expecting her to post it on social media and start discussion groups to pick it apart. He may have seriously watered down or papered over things that he did not feel comfortable disclosing to a missing woman's ex's mother. He may have told LE a completely different story and we're here analyzing a game of telephone.

Another thought: DW may know very well that DNV was meeting up with unsavory characters and he realizes if they knew he was Car 1 and he was talking to LE, his own life could be in danger. There may be a very good reason LE and MSM have never released his name, and the media has not interviewed him (or complained about not being able to interview him). Constantly posting on social media that witnesses should "come forward" like they owe the peanut gallery an explanation for anything is excruciating to watch.
Thank you Alethea for this important message. It is a long tradition and policy of Websleuths to follow facts and reason. I believe it behooves us to remember that. So far, there appears to be more gossip about Danni's disappearance than factual evidence. When getting bogged down with speculation, I plan to return to Thread #4, post #19 and reread.
 
I still find it incredibly odd that she would wait this long to say anything at all. Regardless where she lives she could have easily been VERY active in the ongoing search. She has posted literally a handful of times about her daughter missing. As a parent of 4 daughters I call BS on her actions.

This stuck out to me too. She evacuated for the hurricane that recently hit per a public post on her FB, but didn't evacuate to Mobile to search for her daughter? There's not very many public posts re: DNV either. Which seriously made me wonder at one point- is DNV with her? With LE being so tight lipped on what they know, it makes you wonder if they really do have a bigger picture in mind. @Alethea shared an article in one of the other threads about LE taking individuals w/criminal activity or certain histories and using them as CI's. Maybe something along those lines?

I guess my confusion on everything is- okay- so you don't want to release the Shell surveillance footage and you don't want to explicitly say where she went other than- Dublins and Shell- why not provide a timeline of the routes she took instead? She traveled from Dublins to the Shell via I65. Using ______, we know that she later left the Shell station and headed north, south, east, west using I65/Government Blvd/Service Rd. at which point we were no longer able to determine her location.

Random questions I came up with after looking at the facts:

She picked up her car that day, did she go to her apartment before meeting up with the trio? Did she go to Heroes alone? Did she go with all three? Did she meet DW/MK first and then go to Heroes?

Did they all leave together or separately? Did she stop on the way to Dublins?

Did she talk to anyone on her phone between picking her car up that day and making to to Dublins? Did she have plans? If so, what were her plans?

Did she drink at either of these locations? If so, how much? If so, what? Alcohol impairs your judgment- depending on what, how much, and how fast you drink it could impair it faster or slower.

Was she alone when she left Dublins? If not, how many people were with her? Did Car 1 leave just to circle back around quickly? Is Car 3 different?

Was she the driver or passenger in any of the vehicles? Did she get out of the car at any point? Allegedly, the last "friend" to see her witnessed her getting back in the car and thought she was following him back to Dublins...is this because she was out looking for her phone or because she was riding with him while someone followed them and she got into the other vehicle?

Was she known to drink or take medication- prescription or otherwise? Did she have regular prescription medicine?

What was her financial situation prior to this? Did she have any large sums of money come in recently? Make any big purchases other than a car? Did she have a bank account and/or debit/credit card? Any activity?

Any activity on her phone during the period in which it was "lost"? Any evidence showing anything was deleted from the phone prior to LE receiving it? Were there huge discrepancies in any of the parties stories?

Allegedly she had a baby in June, who is the father? Where was she mentally with this? Was the baby given up for adoption? If so, was the father mad or supportive? Did the father even know?

Did her apartment appear as though she'd entered it at any point the night she disappeared?

WHERE IS/WAS TT? What was their relationship like? What was the relationship between DNV/JDT like? How frequently did she see her daughter? Was CT out of town during the time of DNV's disappearance? If she was not in the custody of JDT at that time, who was she with?
 
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