Found Deceased AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #6

[cody22]

I'd think Cora could qualify for victim compensation, plus whatever Danni's insurance through PF Chang's was...ie I don't get why anyone should need a ******** for a murder victim's funeral. JMO

If you are a Grandparent raising a Grandchild, you can draw a monthly SS check of approx.$900+ on them until the age of 18. I do not know if you have to have legal custody of the child, though.....moo

 

[theides]

So what I gleaned, and tell me if I'm wrong:

• After CT was about a year old, she was at JDT's house most of the time and has been since, but there was no official custody agreement.
• JDT was to get official custody a week from the day DNV disappeared.
• DNV was actively working to be a bigger part of CT's life.

I must ruminate on this more. It's both kinda suspicious to me and also... not. I could see DNV both being for and against JDT getting legal custody in this situation.

 

[otto]

So what I gleaned, and tell me if I'm wrong:

• After CT was about a year old, she was at JDT's house most of the time and has been since, but there was no official custody agreement.
• JDT was to get official custody a week from the day DNV disappeared.
• DNV was actively working to be a bigger part of CT's life.

I must ruminate on this more. It's both kinda suspicious to me and also... not. I could see DNV both being for and against JDT getting legal custody in this situation.

Would Danni actually believe that she could have her daughter with her 80% of the time while having no legal rights or custody for her daughter?

 

[cedgison]

JV just posted to the Missing: Danniella Vian Group on FB ... I'm not sure what I am allowed to share or post so here is your notice.

Posts from that group cannot be shared here due to it being a closed group.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Would Danni actually believe that she could have her daughter with her 80% of the time while having no legal rights or custody for her daughter?

Could Danni have stated now that she had a car, she may not be so inclined to give up custody in one week?

 

[cedgison]

When police announce that they have identified Danni's body, I hope they tell us how she was identified (e.g.: dental, clothing, DNA).

I think they are doing DNA testing to confirm but I could be wrong.

 

[theides]

Would Danni actually believe that she could have her daughter with her 80% of the time while having no legal rights or custody for her daughter?

Possibly. Most of us, if not all, have never met her, so we can't really speak for her nor can she speak for herself. I don't think any of us actually know without a doubt what her and JDTs and CTs dynamic were. It seems like she tried to be as involved as possible but gave the reins to JDT. I think it's also notable that she said sleepover, as if not having CT actually there most of the time. Not custody, not living there, sleep over. Her goals also stated that she wanted to go back to school and pay off debts, so presumably working full-time and taking classes, which would likely leave CT with JDT often anyways. But as I said, I don't know. It's all conjecture. I haven't seen any direct quotes or thoughts from DNV besides the goals list, which was provided to NBC by JDT. Which also makes me question, why provide that to NBC if there were some struggle/argument over CT? It's already being used as a tool to cast suspicion upon her here, so why do that? Just an oversight?

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Possibly. Most of us, if not all, have never met her, so we can't really speak for her nor can she speak for herself. I don't think any of us actually know without a doubt what her and JDTs and CTs dynamic were. It seems like she tried to be as involved as possible but gave the reins to JDT. I think it's also notable that she said sleepover, as if not having CT actually there most of the time. Not custody, not living there, sleep over. Her goals also stated that she wanted to go back to school and pay off debts, so presumably working full-time and taking classes, which would likely leave CT with JDT often anyways. But as I said, I don't know. It's all conjecture. I haven't seen any direct quotes or thoughts from DNV besides the goals list, which was provided to NBC by JDT. Which also makes me question, why provide that to NBC if there were some struggle/argument over CT? It's already being used as a tool to cast suspicion upon her here, so why do that? Just an oversight?

You are correct we do not know Danni, only what JDT has said, which often changes with the wind. The only real thing we know is the goals list. To me that says a good bit about her. She had goals and it appeared she seemed to be working hard to obtain them. And the night she reaches a big one, her car, she disappears and is found dead in that same car at the bottom of a river.

 

[otto]

Posts from that group cannot be shared here due to it being a closed group.

I'm confident that if there's anything worth knowing about Danni's disappearance and watery grave, it will be released by police.

 

[theides]

You are correct we do not know Danni, only what JDT has said, which often changes with the wind. The only real thing we know is the goals list. To me that says a good bit about her. She had goals and it appeared she seemed to be working hard to obtain them. And the night she reaches a big one, her car, she disappears and is found dead in that same car at the bottom of a river.

Yup. And it could be entirely related, won't deny that, but it also could not be. There's just so many moving parts. I have hangups with literally every theory possible.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Yup. And it could be entirely related, won't deny that, but it also could not be. There's just so many moving parts. I have hangups with literally every theory possible.

I have tried many theories in my head but they all come back to why Danni and her car together? And the big thing for me became the three days it took for Danni to be reported missing. “Family” was notified the very next day that Danni did not show up at Ollie’s and she also did not have her phone. If it was me I would have been at the police station pronto! Especially if she was the mother of my grandchild. Nothing in the world could have made me wait. I would not have had to have her phone. I would have just given LE the name and phone number of the person who called me.

 

[theides]

So, let's say it is all about custody. How do we go from A, Heroes, to B, Bayou Sara?

The person first has to know that she's going to Heroes - could have been by word of mouth, a Facebook post, many ways they could have found that out if DNV expressed it. So from Heroes, they... follow her to Dublin's? And they wait outside? They then get lucky because she happens to lose her phone. From there, they follow DNV, who is following DW, to the Shell for who-knows-what reason - and surely they'd have seen she was following someone else, and then they park slightly off in the distance - close enough to swoop in within a minute of DW pulling out. Had to have been following, right? Because how else would they know to go to the Shell? They see an opportunity, and Car 3 with the person inside of it enters the gas station within a small frame of time after DW leaves. A gas station with security cameras, like many gas stations. They then disable the GPS on the car. There's possibly more than one of them because it's doubtful DNV would have gone willingly after being surprised by them at the Shell. They do something to her to subdue her. One of them gets in her car, the other follows in Car 3. One runs it off the boat ramp. They get in the other car and drive away, and she's been disappeared?

If that was the plan, and it was all planned out, wouldn't there be a much easier way to do that? Why do it in such a risky way? Obviously it panned out thus far because nobody's been named a POI or suspect that we know of, but why do it that way? Why not wait for her somewhere else? Intercept her at her apartment? Something like that?

 

[ChiCubs2016]

So, let's say it is all about custody. How do we go from A, Heroes, to B, Bayou Sara?

The person first has to know that she's going to Heroes - could have been by word of mouth, a Facebook post, many ways they could have found that out if DNV expressed it. So from Heroes, they... follow her to Dublin's? And they wait outside? They then get lucky because she happens to lose her phone. From there, they follow DNV, who is following DW, to the Shell for who-knows-what reason - and surely they'd have seen she was following someone else, and then they park slightly off in the distance - close enough to swoop in within a minute of DW pulling out. Had to have been following, right? Because how else would they know to go to the Shell? They see an opportunity, and Car 3 with the person inside of it enters the gas station within a small frame of time after DW leaves. A gas station with security cameras, like many gas stations. They then disable the GPS on the car. There's possibly more than one of them because it's doubtful DNV would have gone willingly after being surprised by them at the Shell. They do something to her to subdue her. One of them gets in her car, the other follows in Car 3. One runs it off the boat ramp. They get in the other car and drive away, and she's been disappeared?

If that was the plan, and it was all planned out, wouldn't there be a much easier way to do that? Why do it in such a risky way? Obviously it panned out thus far because nobody's been named a POI or suspect that we know of, but why do it that way? Why not wait for her somewhere else? Intercept her at her apartment? Something like that?

It is MOO that the phone being lost was not expected. And yes I think people knew she got a new car and knew she was out celebrating. I do not have a criminal mind so probably could not come up with an exact scenario but I have been shocked when I see the lengths folks go to to get rid of a person in their lives. (I hate saying it that way but struggled to find better terminology).

 

[theides]

It is MOO that the phone being lost was not expected. And yes I think people knew she got a new car and knew she was out celebrating. I do not have a criminal mind so probably could not come up with an exact scenario but I have been shocked when I see the lengths folks go to to get rid of a person in their lives. (I hate saying it that way but struggled to find better terminology).

I don't think in most scenarios the phone being lost was expected. The only way it would have been expected is if A) she dumped it herself for some reason or B) someone that she was with did something to it. I agree that people will go to strange lengths. I just feel like there's holes in literally every theory. One of them has to be right, of the many possibilities, but no matter what there's gonna be coincidence involved, which is hinky, so I can't settle on much.

 

[cody22]

I wonder if her phone had not been lost that night, how much longer it would have taken "her people" to have reported her missing ?....moo

 

[theides]

I wonder if her phone had not been lost that night, how much longer it would have taken "her people" to have reported her missing ?....moo

I wonder how often DNV actually saw her "people." Did she typically go a couple days without seeing anybody? She might have been working a lot to save up for her car, doubles then sleeping. How often did she see CT? It was said she missed a planned visit on Thursday, right? Was that the first time there was a real indication of trouble for them? What time was that visit planned? Does MPD process Missing Person reports 24/7?

I also question things about the phone being returned. By all accounts, it would seem that DW was told to drop it off at PF Chang's, right? Why didn't he? Why'd he keep it until Friday? Did he not make it PF Chang's - too busy? Did he go and just decided not to leave it for whatever reason? Didn't want to leave it unguarded? If DW made it to Ollie's after Dublin, why not give the phone to RC who was, by all accounts, a closer friend?

It doesn't seem like anyone around DNV had a huge sense of urgency.

 

[theides]

I'm adding MPD to the list of lack of urgency. It's been over a week, couldn't they have updated the blog by now or has that just been forgotten? Waiting for details? Just don't want to bother? Could have stated "Car Found." Something. Ask for tips from Saraland folks? I don't know. Just something.

Edit: Or they might already have all of the answers...

 

[ChiCubs2016]

I wonder how often DNV actually saw her "people." Did she typically go a couple days without seeing anybody? She might have been working a lot to save up for her car, doubles then sleeping. How often did she see CT? It was said she missed a planned visit on Thursday, right? Was that the first time there was a real indication of trouble for them? What time was that visit planned? Does MPD process Missing Person reports 24/7?

I also question things about the phone being returned. By all accounts, it would seem that DW was told to drop it off at PF Chang's, right? Why didn't he? Why'd he keep it until Friday? Did he not make it PF Chang's - too busy? Did he go and just decided not to leave it for whatever reason? Didn't want to leave it unguarded? If DW made it to Ollie's after Dublin, why not give the phone to RC who was, by all accounts, a closer friend?

It doesn't seem like anyone around DNV had a huge sense of urgency.

I recall JDT was alerted early the next day. She did tell DW to take the phone to PF Chang’s, we do not know if he tried and maybe did not want to leave it with anyone else. We do not know anything but what JDT has stated. And it was JDT who stated DW called her several times and even stayed DNV should be repeated missing. JDT said he said that as she was headed out the door to the police station (another coincidence). Of course I have no idea what happened but when I ask “who has the most to gain?”, “who tried to control the narrative?” “who knew the details of the new car and the evening plans?”; Those are the people I would have my sights on if I was LE.

Also I I thought DW did something with Danni, the last thing I would do is go through the phone before handing it to LE. I am not even sure I would touch the phone in anyway. He told me he had the phone, I would let LE handle the retrieval of the phone and any information it contained. I would not put myself in the position of being charged with tampering of evidence, because at this point Danni is missing for three days, her phone is evidence.

I agree with you, no one in Danni’s life who should have showed any urgency in reporting her missing. That is sad.

 

[insearchoflight]

So, let's say it is all about custody. How do we go from A, Heroes, to B, Bayou Sara?

The person first has to know that she's going to Heroes - could have been by word of mouth, a Facebook post, many ways they could have found that out if DNV expressed it. So from Heroes, they... follow her to Dublin's? And they wait outside? They then get lucky because she happens to lose her phone. From there, they follow DNV, who is following DW, to the Shell for who-knows-what reason - and surely they'd have seen she was following someone else, and then they park slightly off in the distance - close enough to swoop in within a minute of DW pulling out. Had to have been following, right? Because how else would they know to go to the Shell? They see an opportunity, and Car 3 with the person inside of it enters the gas station within a small frame of time after DW leaves. A gas station with security cameras, like many gas stations. They then disable the GPS on the car. There's possibly more than one of them because it's doubtful DNV would have gone willingly after being surprised by them at the Shell. They do something to her to subdue her. One of them gets in her car, the other follows in Car 3. One runs it off the boat ramp. They get in the other car and drive away, and she's been disappeared?

If that was the plan, and it was all planned out, wouldn't there be a much easier way to do that? Why do it in such a risky way? Obviously it panned out thus far because nobody's been named a POI or suspect that we know of, but why do it that way? Why not wait for her somewhere else? Intercept her at her apartment? Something like that?

Someone could have been following her all night waiting for when she was alone and swooped in. Could be someone known to her so she wasn’t immediately alarmed. She may have been a little intoxicated and a swift blow knocked her out. GPS disabled, shifted her to passenger side. Drove to the bayou and pushed it in. Just speculating a possible scenario

 

[ChiCubs2016]

I'm adding MPD to the list of lack of urgency. It's been over a week, couldn't they have updated the blog by now or has that just been forgotten? Waiting for details? Just don't want to bother? Could have stated "Car Found." Something. Ask for tips from Saraland folks? I don't know. Just something.

Edit: Or they might already have all of the answers...

I hope so. Maybe I will find the blog and ask for an update. In the morning I am going to Tweet the Sheriff!!