AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018

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  • #441
BBM.

This says more to me than anything.
Totally agree. This person has never come forward and has been absent from the search. My bet is that the police are protective of this person for some reason maybe the person is involved with LE as an informant or is active in the drug community etc. IDK but I sense LE protection of this individual as they have never been publically named or even mentioned by the Chief in the PC. Even the family hasn't spoken of this person or called them out publically which leads me to believe they know who it is and for whatever reason are afraid to speak out about them. Few things are making sense to me here and with the way the case is being handled by LE I fear that they are trying to sweep the entire event under the rug for their own reasons. I also fear foul play but don't have much to work with in terms of information so I think I'm going to step away from the case. I hope the family finds their daughter but I don't sense LE will offer up a solution to this case. I also don't believe this case will benefit from missing posters and more media attention. With the CCTV and the fact that the Shell station is in a mixed use neighborhood with many other CCTV options on buildings I believe LE knows exactly what went down but is choosing to do nothing and hopes that this case will simply fade away. I hope that I am wrong but with the amt of CCTV this case should have been solved weeks ago so that the family can have closure.
 
  • #442
Your right nothing makes sense she must of known the area to be able to flash her friend to pull over into the shell garage in time for him not to miss the turning or the ramp - not sure what you call it in USA.

If the friend was flashed by DV and was in front she was following the friend so car number 1 onto the forecourt was the friends because he was leading the way car number 2 was Danniella's, Car number 3. I did find the remnants of an NBC 15 Twitter Tweet with a still
Can you post the still?
 
  • #443
This might be answered by the time I get to the end, I am only on page 2... but which car left the gas station first? The friends? or hers? and whose was the third car that pulled in to the gas station...? Completely unrelated or no?

Where did the friend go after they left the gas station? To Dublins? To their next location? ... Where?
We don't know but it sounded like they were going to continue the party downtown according to the female friend of DV. Others said they were heading back to Dublin Pub. Not sure what to believe. LE has provided no info on which direction the cars turned coming out of the Shell station. This is another reason why I don't believe LE wants the public involved as they have provided next to no information to jog peoples memories.
 
  • #444
This might be answered by the time I get to the end, I am only on page 2... but which car left the gas station first? The friends? or hers? and whose was the third car that pulled in to the gas station...? Completely unrelated or no?

Where did the friend go after they left the gas station? To Dublins? To their next location? ... Where?
We don't exactly know. Guess is the male friend left first followed by VT and then the 3rd car. We don't know who was in 3rd car and we don't have name of person in 1st car.
 
  • #445
If someone is local I wonder if you could say whether the stop at the gas station was on the way from Dublins to the party strip downtown where the group might have been heading based on how locals use the interstates (every city is different in terms of shortcuts used by locals and not being local we wouldn't know these patterns)?

Also was that area near the Shell station a known pickup area for drugs? The Shell station looks like it is located near a number of major roads so it would offer easy on/off access for a quick stop/drug by for one of the people in the 3 cars. Maybe one of the people in the 3 cars was picking up supply to sell to others downtown? Was the Shell station a convenient place to stop to look for phone if that is what was really happening or was this phone story just a cover for what was really going on which was getting drugs?

Without more info from Shell station footage there is no way to know and this is all pure speculation. I do feel sympathy for the family that they are caught in the middle of some situation with the case by local LE. IMO Police Chief did not put on a compelling show that LE was seriously looking for DV or that they even cared too much about DV. The person I have total sympathy for is the small child who honestly deserves better than she is getting from local LE IMO and a father who was in jail for an estimated 5 days around the time her mother went 'missing'? Not sure what else there is to say or add. LE IMO knows what happened and is choosing to do nothing. I hope they will act at some point but I fear it will be too late for DV.
 
  • #446
Can you post the still?
I am trying now I cant find the frigging thing. I saw it 2 or three hours ago a past tweet, found by google photos - today on 2nd September 2018. Memo to ones self take screen shots if participating Web Sleuths
 
  • #447
If someone is local I wonder if you could say whether the stop at the gas station was on the way from Dublins to the party strip downtown where the group might have been heading based on how locals use the interstates (every city is different in terms of shortcuts used by locals and not being local we wouldn't know these patterns)?

Also was that area near the Shell station a known pickup area for drugs? The Shell station looks like it is located near a number of major roads so it would offer easy on/off access for a quick stop/drug by for one of the people in the 3 cars. Maybe one of the people in the 3 cars was picking up supply to sell to others downtown? Was the Shell station a convenient place to stop to look for phone if that is what was really happening or was this phone story just a cover for what was really going on which was getting drugs?

Without more info from Shell station footage there is no way to know and this is all pure speculation. I do feel sympathy for the family that they are caught in the middle of some situation with the case by local LE. IMO Police Chief did not put on a compelling show that LE was seriously looking for DV or that they even cared too much about DV. The person I have total sympathy for is the small child who honestly deserves better than she is getting from local LE IMO and a father who was in jail for an estimated 5 days around the time her mother went 'missing'? Not sure what else there is to say or add. LE IMO knows what happened and is choosing to do nothing. I hope they will act at some point but I fear it will be too late for DV.

With reference to your last. I personally feel the the memo, note or journal was left specifically for the little girl. I don't know why I think that but I do.

KR
Reacher
 
  • #448
was this all an elaborate ruse by the person from whom she purchased the car? I have not read every word in every article yet but has it been reported where she purchased the vehicle?

ETA: Vehicle reported as having "Paper tags from Pearl Motors", so not a private seller. There goes that working idea (pretty much).
They could just be shady operator that preys on young women?
 
  • #449
Dear USA Friends are we looking for a short petite slim person between 5'3 and 5'5. Or a taller Slim female 5'8 as suggested previously on this thread.

The missing posters & police and external offerings say 5'3 perhaps 5'5 my own height but slimmer obviously younger

A 5 ft 8 woman is very distinctive and is taller than most for a female.

KR
Reacher
 
  • #450
Totally agree. This person has never come forward and has been absent from the search. My bet is that the police are protective of this person for some reason maybe the person is involved with LE as an informant or is active in the drug community etc. IDK but I sense LE protection of this individual as they have never been publically named or even mentioned by the Chief in the PC. Even the family hasn't spoken of this person or called them out publically which leads me to believe they know who it is and for whatever reason are afraid to speak out about them. Few things are making sense to me here and with the way the case is being handled by LE I fear that they are trying to sweep the entire event under the rug for their own reasons. I also fear foul play but don't have much to work with in terms of information so I think I'm going to step away from the case. I hope the family finds their daughter but I don't sense LE will offer up a solution to this case. I also don't believe this case will benefit from missing posters and more media attention. With the CCTV and the fact that the Shell station is in a mixed use neighborhood with many other CCTV options on buildings I believe LE knows exactly what went down but is choosing to do nothing and hopes that this case will simply fade away. I hope that I am wrong but with the amt of CCTV this case should have been solved weeks ago so that the family can have closure.

I'm surprised to hear you say that, JoJoJo. Although, I get why. But, I do think, or hope, that the fact that LE are keeping things close to them, means they have something to go on. Something that is too risky to tell us right now. Idk. I could be totally wrong. But it's when LE come out and say help, we have nothing, that's when I worry this isn't going anywhere.
 
  • #451
We don't know but it sounded like they were going to continue the party downtown according to the female friend of DV. Others said they were heading back to Dublin Pub. Not sure what to believe. LE has provided no info on which direction the cars turned coming out of the Shell station. This is another reason why I don't believe LE wants the public involved as they have provided next to no information to jog peoples memories.

Sooooo many cars in this mix for people that were out partying.
 
  • #452
They could just be shady operator that preys on young women?

Yeah, I'm not really sure why the fact it wasn't a private sale would change things. People can be apart of a business and still be creepy. Not that I believe that is an option here.

Right now, I'm going with the "friend." The friend who appears to not being looking for her.
 
  • #453
Dear USA Friends are we looking for a short petite slim person between 5'3 and 5'5. Or a taller Slim female 5'8 as suggested previously on this thread.

The missing posters & police and external offerings say 5'3 perhaps 5'5 my own height but slimmer obviously younger

A 5 ft 8 woman is very distinctive and is taller than most for a female.

KR
Reacher

Hi @Reacher, I would say 5'3-5'5.

Did the 5'8 come from a link?
 
  • #454
Sooooo many cars in this mix for people that were out partying.
Inital explanation from MIL was that DV was heading back to Dublin Pub to look for her phone. Just a guess but she most likely turned in same direction as the 'friend' that she was supposed to be following.

I think what is frustrating is absence of information from LE for public to assist and the 'low energy' 'no info' press conference from the Chief of Police where nothing essential was shared. The fact that the Shell station video was pulled and the TV station complied has me believing there is a bigger case at hand and so finding DV isn't 'mission critical' or LE is covering up for some person that was part of the 3 car group. While I would like to believe the families strategy of posters and billboards will find DV I don't think it will make a difference as so much time has passed. If some business along the various route options somehow posted video with a picture of the cars en route to Dublin Pub or downtown on that night it might change things up in my mind. But absent news this just looks like a small town police dept not doing much IMO. But I do think their decision to not bring in FBI and State LE is a huge mistake. But the fact that local LE is not involving outsiders has me leaning toward the bigger case theory or the cover up and protect someone theory. The family probably doesn't have the means to keep up the search and LE is just counting on them giving up. I hope I'm wrong but its been awhile since I've seen such apathy from local LE. The fact that the family is also covering for the person that returned the phone also has me highly suspicious of the motives of all involved. I hope I am wrong, we shall see.
 
  • #455
I'm surprised to hear you say that, JoJoJo. Although, I get why. But, I do think, or hope, that the fact that LE are keeping things close to them, means they have something to go on. Something that is too risky to tell us right now. Idk. I could be totally wrong. But it's when LE come out and say help, we have nothing, that's when I worry this isn't going anywhere.
The Chief at his press conference seemed to be saying they are out of leads. He also didn't seem to concerned or particularly emotional about that fact though which I why I think it was a ruse. I don't know much about this Chief or Mobile LE for that matter. Perhaps they are just overwhelmed by crime load which looks extreme for such a small place, inept, unskilled looking at CCTV etc. I don't know but I'm not seeing much here to work with at all from a sleuthing standpoint. I feel for the family but I don't get the sense LE is working to bring closure to this case at all.
 
  • #456
The other thing I keep thinking about is the weather situation in the area. My guess is that the network of smallish looking canals that looked dry in the TV footage of the area will rapidly fill up with a large weather event. If DV and/or car was left in one of these canals when dry, I fear that she or car may never be found if the canals fill with water. I realize the network of canals/creeks is vast in the area but I'm surprised that no search effort has ever been undertaken based on MSM reports.
 
  • #457
Inital explanation from MIL was that DV was heading back to Dublin Pub to look for her phone. Just a guess but she most likely turned in same direction as the 'friend' that she was supposed to be following.

I think what is frustrating is absence of information from LE for public to assist and the 'low energy' 'no info' press conference from the Chief of Police where nothing essential was shared. The fact that the Shell station video was pulled and the TV station complied has me believing there is a bigger case at hand and so finding DV isn't 'mission critical' or LE is covering up for some person that was part of the 3 car group. While I would like to believe the families strategy of posters and billboards will find DV I don't think it will make a difference as so much time has passed. If some business along the various route options somehow posted video with a picture of the cars en route to Dublin Pub or downtown on that night it might change things up in my mind. But absent news this just looks like a small town police dept not doing much IMO. But I do think their decision to not bring in FBI and State LE is a huge mistake. But the fact that local LE is not involving outsiders has me leaning toward the bigger case theory or the cover up and protect someone theory. The family probably doesn't have the means to keep up the search and LE is just counting on them giving up. I hope I'm wrong but its been awhile since I've seen such apathy from local LE. The fact that the family is also covering for the person that returned the phone also has me highly suspicious of the motives of all involved. I hope I am wrong, we shall see.

Great points Jo.

What scenario would be possible where both her family/friends and local LE are covering for someone? (Not questioning you, I am genuinely confused about this case).
 
  • #458
Great points Jo.

What scenario would be possible where both her family/friends and local LE are covering for someone? (Not questioning you, I am genuinely confused about this case).

If she was with an active military person perhaps.
 
  • #459
Great points Jo.

What scenario would be possible where both her family/friends and local LE are covering for someone? (Not questioning you, I am genuinely confused about this case).
Hi, jump right in with ideas as I've just been thinking and typing away here debating possibilities etc. and would love your POV! I don't see voluntary missing here as she probably didn't have the cash to just disappear as she just spent all her money on a car. So, that leaves involuntary missing. I am scratching my head at the story of the missing phone and the 'friend' leaving the gas station and never realizing that he wasn't being followed and THEN never checking to see what happened to DV. Really? What kind of friend does this? LE doesn't name this person, family won't name this person and press won't/can't name this person? Mmmm. Why will nobody name this person? Why won't the family even name this person unless they are afraid or told by LE not to do so? I also thought it odd that MIL made the specific point of saying 'friend' was interviewed and cleared by LE and then she won't say anything else about them when asked by press? My personal guess is that this 'friend' is the 'trouble agent' in this case and is somebody nobody wants to mess with for whatever reason.

The gas station scenario involves 3 cars or is it 2? I'm not sure. The 2 cars staying longer doing what? Disabling GPS?, Drug buy? Looking for phone? or something else? The one MSM article said that DV left the gas station in her car and was supposedly heading back to Dublin Pub. Which way would she have turned? Did she in fact do this? We don't know. Did another car follow her or not? How did DV just seem to evaporate into thin air? Or, maybe there was a change of plans and she decided to go to a private residence to party or hang out? We don't know. Could something have happened to her on the way to the private residence or at the private residence and the people involved couldn't or didn't take her to a hospital and just dumped her someplace and junked the car? We don't know. She seems surrounded by people that might have parole issues if found involved in another situation. So, maybe people were scared and chose to walk away and leave her someplace. IDK. Just grasping at straws here with zero information.

Look at who is leading the finding DV case? MIL. Not the husband. Not the 'friend' that ditched her to go back to Dublin pub. Not her mom who has remained in NC. No other family seems present. She seems to have some friends that pitched in at the recent car wash but everything seems driven by the MIL.

I'm baffled. But there are people that know what happened that night and for whatever reason they are sticking to the story of the missing phone and everyone circling back to the Dublin Pub to find it. This story might have been part of the truth but it doesn't seem likely its the entire truth as it wouldn't explain the 2 cars staying longer at the gas station. Disabled GPS, No Phone and Limited Cash. Really wish we knew if GPS was tampered with or just malfunctioning? Has the car been found or do LE know where the car is located? Again we don't know. Press aren't working the story to figure it out either IMO which leads me to believe they have all been told to back off by LE. I feel for the young girl that has no idea where her mother is or if her mother is ever coming home. So far as it seems based on MSM it doesn't seem LE is doing much to work the case. Ideas?
 
  • #460
If she was with an active military person perhaps.
Interesting idea. She comes from that military world. Her husband/baby daddy was supposedly from that world so she must know people. Military person would know how to ditch a car and body too. Possibility?
 
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