AL - Karen Shahan, 53, murdered, Homewood, 23 July 2013 #2

[DTLJ]

We don't sleuth people who are not involved in the crime. Thanks

Not sleuthing the interpreter...but the picture of "the interpreter" of RS - looked like a collegue of RS's that I knew and worked with...I was "sleuthing" the possibility that RS might have used a picture of his collegue from way back and called her the "interpreter" for his mission trip...that he might not have even been on. Someone a couple of posts back suggested that RS may have been asking for donations from churches only to move to be with his "boyfriend" instead of going on the mission trip. .

HOWEVER...

I actually found the PDF from the church newsletters and I did not recognize that person. So, I answered my own question. :nevermind:

But, I'd still like to know if KS had gone with RS on his 2012-2013 mission trip. I think that fact is very important to this case.

 

[CountryGirl]

But, I'd still like to know if KS had gone with RS on his 2012-2013 mission trip. I think that fact is very important to this case.

Snipped by me ...

I haven't seen that mentioned in any of the articles. Hopefully someone in the know can answer that question.

 

[Jewels53]

:bump: ing up!

Wednesday 2/5 is RS preliminary hearning!

 

['Ailina]

:bump: ing up!

Wednesday 2/5 is RS preliminary hearning!

Will it be televised?

 

[ClemiFern]

I am thinking the boyfriend is not local. I am thinking it is an internet. Relationship. I have a gut feeling in this.

IDK if anyone else remembers this but during the press conference announcing RS's arrest in TN, a reporter asked about a boyfriend who worked at a florist in Nashville, TN.

IMO, this person is who RS was planning a life with and since he and Karen lived in TN prior to moving back to AL, it's not unreasonable to suspect that this 'boyfriend' may date back to when they lived there.

If Karen found out about the relationship after all those years, she may have given RS the option of ending it and going on with their life as if nothing had happened. RS may have agreed to go to TN in order to end it in person and also to help his son prepare for a move. He probably never intended on ending the relationship in person, but made hasty plans to come back to Bham and murder Karen.

I don't necessarily believe that the plans to escape and marry the boyfriend were made prior to KS's murder. Rather I tend to believe that those plans might have come about after the murder as a means to escape the US and start a new life.

IMO, boyfriend was probably going to follow RS to Germany at some later date...maybe even a few months down the road so as not to raise suspicions.

All of this is purely speculation and opinion on my part. Just throwing it out there as another possibility.

 

[Sulamith]

IDK if anyone else remembers this but during the press conference announcing RS's arrest in TN, a reporter asked about a boyfriend who worked at a florist in Nashville, TN.

IMO, this person is who RS was planning a life with and since he and Karen lived in TN prior to moving back to AL, it's not unreasonable to suspect that this 'boyfriend' may date back to when they lived there.

If Karen found out about the relationship after all those years, she may have given RS the option of ending it and going on with their life as if nothing had happened. RS may have agreed to go to TN in order to end it in person and also to help his son prepare for a move. He probably never intended on ending the relationship in person, but made hasty plans to come back to Bham and murder Karen.

I don't necessarily believe that the plans to escape and marry the boyfriend were made prior to KS's murder. Rather I tend to believe that those plans might have come about after the murder as a means to escape the US and start a new life.

IMO, boyfriend was probably going to follow RS to Germany at some later date...maybe even a few months down the road so as not to raise suspicions.

All of this is purely speculation and opinion on my part. Just throwing it out there as another possibility.

BBM For all we know the boyfriend could have been on the same plane that RS was intending to board. Wouldn't that be something! I don't think traveling together would raise suspicion. Arrive at the airport in different cars and just ignore each other at the airport and board separately.

You might be right regarding the maybe plans. RS would not have to have divorce papers to marry wherever he was going to get married, he would have the death certificate. I really have no clue what is necessary documents one would have to have. :moo:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

According to my WS Calendar... There is a hearing for Richard Shahan today...

Wednesday - 2-5-14

Does anyone know if this hearing is still scheduled?

And at what time the hearing is scheduled?

TIA...:seeya:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://ww2.wcmh.com/story/24474885/...hahan-was-flying-to-europe-to-marry-boyfriend

Link above reports that:

Quote: "Shahan's preliminary hearing to determine if the case will go to the Jefferson County Grand Jury is scheduled for February 5, 2014."

FYI...:seeya:

 

[CountryGirl]

I asked Carol Robinson yesterday on Twitter:

carol robinson ‏@RobinsonCarol 16h
@ Tomorrow afternoon. One of our court reporters will be covering. Should be interesting!

 

[SCHMAE]

Catch me up ! I have not visited this thread in a bit. RS's boyfriend? Is that a typo ? tia

 

[meanmaryjean]

Catch me up ! I have not visited this thread in a bit. RS's boyfriend? Is that a typo ? tia

Nope, not a typo. Boggles the mind, doesn't it?????

He has a hearing today after being let out on bail (an outrage if you ask me) and remanded to house arrest at his mother's home.

 

[enzeder]

Haley Westbrook - Reporter for ABC 33/40 News
https://twitter.com/HaleyWestbrook

Haley Westbrook ‏@HaleyWestbrook 11m
Covering Richard Shahan's preliminary hearing at 1:30 pm today in Judge Shelly Watkins courtroom- I'll be live at 11:30 am with a preview.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Haley Westbrook - Reporter for ABC 33/40 News
https://twitter.com/HaleyWestbrook

Will any of you wonderful Sleuthers be able to catch the 11:30 preview?

TIA...:seeya:

 

[CountryGirl]

The preliminary hearing for the former Homewood pastor charged with murder in his wife's stabbing is scheduled for 1:30 pm Wednesday before Jefferson County District Court Judge Shelly Watkins.

http://www.abc3340.com/story/246409...y-for-homewood-pastor-charged-in-wifes-murder

 

[SCHMAE]

Nope, not a typo. Boggles the mind, doesn't it?????

He has a hearing today after being let out on bail (an outrage if you ask me) and remanded to house arrest at his mother's home.

W O W ! Tks The plot thickens !!!

 

[CountryGirl]

Just watched the ABC 33/40 preview on streaming. She just recapped the case and said when asked about the prosecution's statement about leaving the country to be with his boyfriend, Richard Shahan's attorney said he would not comment on rumors.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Just watched the ABC 33/40 preview on streaming. She just recapped the case and said when asked about the prosecution's statement about leaving the country to be with his boyfriend, Richard Shahan's attorney said he would not comment on rumors.

Thank you, CountryGirl!

:seeya:

 

[CountryGirl]

Kelsey Stein ‏@kelseymstein 6m
Former Homewood pastor Richard Shahan waives prelim hearing on murder charge. Judge sends case to grand jury. Story to come on @aldotcom

Haley Westbrook ‏@HaleyWestbrook 7m
Richard Shahan has waived his preliminary hearing

https://twitter.com/search?src=typd&q=richard shahan

 

[Flutterflies]

Haley Westbrook ‏@HaleyWestbrook 6m
Richard Shahan has waived his preliminary hearing

https://twitter.com/HaleyWestbrook

 

[CountryGirl]

Shahan's attorneys chose not to hold a preliminary hearing because, under the circumstances, the case was headed to a grand jury whether testimony was presented or not.

"Our understanding is that regardless of what happened today the state of Alabama planned to take the case to a grand jury," John Lentine said after the hearing.

The grand jury will consider the allegations against Shahan and determine whether to issue an indictment. If indicted, Shahan would be arraigned and prepare for a jury trial in circuit court.

Shahan is represented by defense attorneys Wendell Sheffield and John Lentine.