Alec Baldwin fired prop gun, killing 1 on movie set, Oct 2021 #5

[Bekind89]

I am way behind on this thread. But it is almost hard to believe, that in the one week since I last checked in here, AB has managed to dig a hole deeper and deeper and deeper, with his moronic, shocking, ham handed, public declarations.

It seems to be a special gift of his. .
When a person puts a deadly weapon in their hand, they alone are responsible for handling that deadly weapon safely, period. That is just common knowledge and common sense.
His absurd statement about the gun firing would be comical if not for the tragic outcome. Paraphrasing, but it was something like " Bullet then entered the firing chamber and exited the barrel." So, the gun decided all on its own to fire the bullet?
It would be equivalent to a reckless driver driving into a crowd of people and claiming: The vehicle advanced in a southwards direction then sharply swung left into the crowd of pedestrians on the sidewalk."
All own it's own accord!! Don't blame me!!! The vehicle is responsible!!!
Just an insult to his victim and her loved ones, imo.

 

[Dotta]

Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins' lawyers slam Alec Baldwin for saying she told him to shoot | Daily Mail Online

 

[MsMarple]

Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins' lawyers slam Alec Baldwin for saying she told him to shoot | Daily Mail Online

I suspect much of what AB has said in the last 5 months is going to come back and bite him in the butt. Victim blaming rarely goes over well. JMO.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins' parents are trapped in war-torn Ukraine | Daily Mail Online

 

[happyday]

Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins' parents are trapped in war-torn Ukraine | Daily Mail Online

Oh my goodness, this is so sad.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Alec Baldwin preparing to begin filming two Italian films after fatal shooting | Daily Mail Online

 

[shotgun09]

Alec Baldwin preparing to begin filming two Italian films after fatal shooting | Daily Mail Online

Well, the "bloom is off the rose " here in the US I would imagine...

 

[mickey2942]

Alec Baldwin preparing to begin filming two Italian films after fatal shooting | Daily Mail Online

I hope no one gives him any guns to shoot. You know, "Actors are too dumb" for gun safety. Of course. According to AB.

 

[al66pine]

Broken Monitor?

Alec Baldwin preparing to begin filming two Italian films after fatal shooting | Daily Mail Online

@Blondie in Spokane Thanks for your post. The bbm in link* is new to me. Any earlier corroboration from anyone on Rust set?

"'Mr. Baldwin knew that he could never point a firearm at crew members under any circumstances and had a duty of safety to his fellow crew members,' attorney Jason Bowles said in a statement obtained by ABC. 'Yet he did point the gun at Halyna before the fatal incident against all rules and common sense.'

"Bowles added that the monitor on set was broken on the day of the fatal shooting which 'further prevented Hannah from knowing what was going on inside the Church,' ABC reported."

* Alec Baldwin preparing to begin filming two Italian films after fatal shooting | Daily Mail Online

 

[al66pine]

I hope no one gives him any guns to shoot. You know, "Actors are too dumb" for gun safety. Of course. According to AB.

@mickey2942. Wow. Two Christmas movies: Kid Santa and Billie's Magic World.
If AB is required to handle a firearm, I hope gun does not "go off" and shoot Santa Claus.
You know, the way the gun went off by itself on Rust set.

 

[MsMarple]

Alec Baldwin preparing to begin filming two Italian films after fatal shooting | Daily Mail Online

Also, last month AB was filming in the UK - a thriller about an airplane hijacking called 97 Minutes.

Alec Baldwin gets to work as he films new thriller in Hampshire | Daily Mail Online

 

[deugirtni]

Broken Monitor?
@Blondie in Spokane Thanks for your post. The bbm in link* is new to me. Any earlier corroboration from anyone on Rust set?

"'Mr. Baldwin knew that he could never point a firearm at crew members under any circumstances and had a duty of safety to his fellow crew members,' attorney Jason Bowles said in a statement obtained by ABC. 'Yet he did point the gun at Halyna before the fatal incident against all rules and common sense.'

"Bowles added that the monitor on set was broken on the day of the fatal shooting which 'further prevented Hannah from knowing what was going on inside the Church,' ABC reported."

* Alec Baldwin preparing to begin filming two Italian films after fatal shooting | Daily Mail Online

It was noted also in HGR's lawsuit documentation (attached as pdf):

ETA: Or sorry.. did you mean corroboration from anyone OTHER than HGR?

45. Around 7:30 a.m., Hannah noted that the video camera system and app that allowed the
crew to watch scenes going on in real time and store content in the cloud, “Video Village”
was down. As a result, Hannah was unable to view the various camera scenes and what
they were filming. Video Village was always supposed to be up so that Hannah, makeup,
and others on set could see when they were needed and follow what was going on with
filmed scenes as they were happening, for example, inside buildings.
46. Video Village provides several apps, which apparently offer secure cloud storage and the
ability for set crews to watch scenes in real time at a distance and monitor scenes. The
failure of Video Village that day was very significant because no one could see inside the
Church at the time of the impromptu Baldwin gun scene. In effect, the de facto camera
security system on the Rust set was shut down that day.

 

[BeachSky]

Alec Baldwin preparing to begin filming two Italian films after fatal shooting | Daily Mail Online

bbm
….after smearing the victim is what it should say IMO!

Possibly these companies are sick enough to think -AB curiosity- will have ppl watch their film.

MOO

 

[al66pine]

Sinister Thought re the "Rust-sphere"

It was noted also in HGR's lawsuit documentation (attached as pdf):
ETA: Or sorry.. did you mean corroboration from anyone OTHER than HGR?...

@deugirtni sbm Thx for your response. Yes, I meant corroboration from anyone other than HGR,* who presumably is the source of info/allegations in Complaint. My apologies, my post should have been more explicit.

Re ¶ 45,** do Video Village's digital records show whether VV monitoring app was "down" or properly functioning at that time? IOW, was HGR's stmt true?

Re ¶46,*** VV also "apparently" offers app w "secure cloud storage." Did someone in the "Rust-sphere" order VV to delete/erase some data in the cloud?

If so, seems the person receiving the greatest benefit of such a deletion would be AB. my2ct. {ETA. Not saying AB asked VV to delete, not saying VV did delete, just thinking aloud}
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* Afaik MSM coverage has not reported that someone else on Rust set said Video Village's "video camera system and app" were "down" at the crucial time. Afaik, same silence/gap in other Complaints in other Rust related lawsuits.

** Complaint ¶ 45. The Video Village app let "Hannah, makeup, and others on set could see when they were needed," so HGR was not the only one who depended on it.

***Complaint ¶ 46. "Video Village provides several apps, which apparently offer secure cloud storage." bbm

 

[DI_Isokawa]

I did a quick check and none of the other lawsuits seem to mention the VV app being down.

 

[DI_Isokawa]

More on "Video Village:"

Seems to be a generic term rather than a specific product.

 

[al66pine]

Video Village?

More on "Video Village:" ....
Seems to be a generic term rather than a specific product.

@DI_Isokawa Thanks for your post w clarification and enlightening links.
Video Village (w both V's in uppercase) term in HGR's Complaint led me to think it was a single entity. My bad.

If there was a single business entity (whatever the name) providing on-set monitoring service and cloud storage for Rust, I'd still be interested in reviewing the data in that co's records.
Could still be relevant in HGR's lawsuit and other lawsuits to show at the critical times, who handled gun, how it was transferred from one person to another, etc.
Well, that is, if app/system was not down when gun was fired. my2ct.

 

[DI_Isokawa]

Video Village (w both V's in uppercase) term in HGR's Complaint led me to think it was a single entity. My bad.

Not to worry; I had the same reaction. It was only when I went looking for "Video Village LLC " that I stumbled on the real deal.

 

[DI_Isokawa]

It appears that video village (lower case) is just a remote display that lets crew members see what is being recorded on the main camera, not something that monitors an area like a security camera. Since the main camera was changed that day because the union crew left with their equipment, it's plausible that the remote display was not yet connected.

 

[al66pine]

It appears that video village (lower case) is just a remote display that lets crew members see what is being recorded on the main camera, not something that monitors an area like a security camera. Since the main camera was changed that day because the union crew left with their equipment, it's plausible that the remote display was not yet connected.

@DI_Isokawa Thanks for you post re vid village being a "remote display that lets crew members see what is being recorded on the main camera."
So, crew members see (whatever on-set action) on monitors & also hear that thru earbud/equiv./similar.

Iiuc crew may receive direction the same way, i.e., Makeup, you need to powder actor's shiny forehead; Costumer, bring in the red sweater for actress. Or not, I could be wrong. Anyone? @katydid23 ?

But if this ^ is vid village's main(?) purpose, I'm puzzled about vid village also providing "secure cloud storage." Why?

Iiuc, like OP said, this system, under whatever business name, is not a typical security/surveillance system like retail stores or warehouses. I can see the purpose of on-set communication, but why retain that data?

Earlier I was just curious about whether there was any recordings of AB w firearm in hand, or how the gun was transferred from one person to another there on-set. Still wondering. ny2ct.