All Sauvie Island Searches

[Billylee]

I don't know which one you mean, the one on Reeder Rd, which is also a small market?

Here is a link showing the point where the county line is
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=45.72....73018,-122.771251&spn=0.003939,0.009141&z=17

The pdf link I put in the post above has an EXCELLENT map in it.
If you zoom in (enlarge) the map, it shows the actual county line, and
of interest to me the dikes, waterways, etc...
here is the link again- it's at the bottom of the page..
http://www.dfw.state.or.us/resources/visitors/sauvie_island/beach_use_brochure.pdf

yes it's a market and cafe, next to an rv park. They have free wifi there.

 

[Billylee]

It's north of there I guess, here it is Island Cove Cafe & Market.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=45.72...749783,-122.771401&spn=0.001434,0.003449&z=18

 

[freefallzzzz]

yes it's a market and cafe, next to an rv park. They have free wifi there.

I looked at the map and yes, Billylee is correct, that RV Park, market & cafe are north of the county line.

 

[eyes4crime]

If traced, wouldn't the IP address show up of the free wifi being used? TIA

 

[Billylee]

If traced, wouldn't the IP address show up of the free wifi being used? TIA

I'm guessing it would, and that's why we were wondering if TH had her laptop with her on SI. and if that's why they are searching the Reeder Rd. area.

 

[freefallzzzz]

I'm guessing it would, and that's why we were wondering if TH had her laptop with her on SI. and if that's why they are searching the Reeder Rd. area.

Remember to look at todays posts of mine in the scanner thread, Reeder Rd
is not the only area they are at today (or yesterday)_

_I didn't post a lot but it has to stay in the scanner thread since I heard it
over the scanner =)

 

[Billylee]

Remember to look at todays posts of mine in the scanner thread, Reeder Rd
is not the only area they are at today (or yesterday)_

_I didn't post a lot but it has to stay in the scanner thread since I heard it
over the scanner =)

Oh, I'm glad you told me that, I didn't know we couldn't post what you had there here! Thank you!

 

[eyes4crime]

I'm guessing it would, and that's why we were wondering if TH had her laptop with her on SI. and if that's why they are searching the Reeder Rd. area.

I got it! Instead of the pings leading LE to SI it might be the IP address on Terri's computer. Seems that would be far more exact than pings from a cell phone. Also seems someone may have remember seeing her there. Yes? moo mho

 

[citigirl]

I got it! Instead of the pings leading LE to SI it might be the IP address on Terri's computer. Seems that would be far more exact than pings from a cell phone. Also seems someone may have remember seeing her there. Yes? moo mho

I thought it was pretty easy to trace an IP address. Surely the cops have had this information since very early in the investigation. Why now?

 

[Billylee]

I thought it was pretty easy to trace an IP address. Surely the cops have had this information since very early in the investigation. Why now?

Darn good question, whether it's based on pings or IP's why now? Were these the same areas searched before?
Last weeks article alluded to some areas being re-searched and some that hadn't been.

 

[eyes4crime]

I thought it was pretty easy to trace an IP address. Surely the cops have had this information since very early in the investigation. Why now?

Why now - good question?
...maybe because Halloween is coming up bringing families to SI.

...A new tip or new evidence reported.

I have no idea. SI is beautiful and very well regulated to keep it that way. I am at a loss as to why SI would be a place to leave a body. If you're seen digging on SI you will be arrested. Cars parked on the narrow roads risk being seen. Seems one would have to know the island well, the layout and the rules. moo mho

 

[miabellamoure]

Why now - good question?
...maybe because Halloween is coming up bringing families to SI.

...A new tip or new evidence reported.

I have no idea. SI is beautiful and very well regulated to keep it that way. I am at a loss as to why SI would be a place to leave a body. If you're seen digging on SI you will be arrested. Cars parked on the narrow roads risk being seen. Seems one would have to know the island well, the layout and the rules. moo mho

I think it'd be safe to say that Terri makes her own rules.

 

[Kimmer]

Call me crazy, but I have never been able to shake the feeling that the phone was on SI that day but that poor Kryon will be found in a complete opposite direction, with her being a fan of CSI and Dexter I just can't see her taking her cell phone with her to the actual location where she put his remains...God I hate to type that and I also hope that I am wrong in my feeling.

 

[loves2bmom]

My opinion is they learned something new recently that ties to Sauvie Island. It's not big enough to point them to a specific spot or urgent enough to ask for SAR volunteers to take time off of their regular jobs. But the information (or evidence) is enough to point them to the island. I don't think it's cell phones or IP addresses though. Only my speculation.......

 

[Billylee]

I was just looking the places they're searching. It seems like they are searching "everywhere". If the info came from someone who physically saw TH or the truck, then I don't think they'd be searching such a wide area, would they? IDK I think it's either cell pings, or an IP on her laptop told them she was somewhere near a wifi area. Lord, I hope they have more then just cell pings, cuz if I understand correctly how they work, they could be searching forever.

 

[just]

Actually, we were wondering if that's why they're searching Reeder Rd & Retenaar Rd areas. Perhaps it was her computer that lead them there and not a phone ping? Someone more knowledgeable than me about wifi and laptops said she could have accessed the wifi without actually being in the cafe. (I think?)

Yes, I do it all the time (use other people's WiFi when traveling with my laptop). As for why the Island Cafe didn't trace her IP, the cafe probably aren't tech people and they just offer free WiFi to anyone as a convenience. She easily could have sat in their parking lot and used it and they wouldn't know.

So, can all the IP addresses that went through that Island Cafe be logged? Absolutely. Then the LE would have the task of tracing who used the WiFi during what period of time, and as far as I know that can only be done by getting the MAC address (uniquely identifies every computer and cell phone) assuming again she had a laptop or smartphone.

Technology FYI:
An IP address is 'leased' to your computer/smartphone depending on where you are and can change.
A MAC address is a unique identifier to computers/smartphones - think of it like your home address - it doesn't change.

Would this all be time consuming for LE to trace? No, but search warrants I'm sure were involved and then if TH used a smartphone/device that LE couldn't get possession of (think bat phones), they have to tie that to her somehow.

My thoughts are it would be why they keep coming back to SI - because they somehow placed her near this cafe.

Of course, I have no clue, but it does all make sense from a tech perspective. Thanks to BeanE and Loves2Bmom for the interesting thoughts.

 

[Dee10]

IIRC the new searches were not related to a tip, but new information. I am totally speculating that it may come from soil, sand or plant material that maybe unique to the island and matched tires on her truck or clothing. Some tests can take months to come back; don't ask me which ones though :crazy:

 

[loves2bmom]

Is it still raining up there? It's pouring down here and my poor hubby and son are out chasing bambi.

The sun just came out!!!! Forecast still says more rain later today but looking at the dopplar, it seems to have cleared out. Yay! It's a tiny bit chillier than yesterday but not overly cold. Still a few more hours of searching (I think)

 

[Billylee]

Maybe pumpkin seeds in a tire.

 

[eyes4crime]

Yes, I do it all the time (use other people's WiFi when traveling with my laptop). As for why the Island Cafe didn't trace her IP, the cafe probably aren't tech people and they just offer free WiFi to anyone as a convenience. She easily could have sat in their parking lot and used it and they wouldn't know.

So, can all the IP addresses that went through that Island Cafe be logged? Absolutely. Then the LE would have the task of tracing who used the WiFi during what period of time, and as far as I know that can only be done by getting the MAC address (uniquely identifies every computer and cell phone) assuming again she had a laptop or smartphone.

Technology FYI:
An IP address is 'leased' to your computer/smartphone depending on where you are and can change.
A MAC address is a unique identifier to computers/smartphones - think of it like your home address - it doesn't change.

Would this all be time consuming for LE to trace? No, but search warrants I'm sure were involved and then if TH used a smartphone/device that LE couldn't get possession of (think bat phones), they have to tie that to her somehow.

My thoughts are it would be why they keep coming back to SI - because they somehow placed her near this cafe.

Of course, I have no clue, but it does all make sense from a tech perspective. Thanks to BeanE and Loves2Bmom for the interesting thoughts.

Thank you for the valuable information. Pretty sure the house, property, computers, trucks/cars, were searched in the very beginning. No warrants were necessary because Kaine and Terri made everything available to LE for searching...Kaine owns the truck/home/land, he has everything in his name. moo mho

If Island Cafe's IP or MAC address appeared on Terri's computer, and she didn't state being at SI, that would explain the searches. It's all speculation at this point, but logically it explains why LE are searching there. moo mhoo

I am an not very computer literate so excuse me if I didn't interpret your explanation correctly. Thanks again.