All Texas Equusearch-Related Filings #1

[notthatsmart]

They did not hire "experts" to look at the documents. Who would qualify as an expert "volunteer form inspector," anyway? They hired a copy company to copy the documents, which was expressly prohibited by the order. Also, any first-year lawyer would know that when you are granted limited permission to look at confidential documents and "tag" those you want to be released from confidentiality, you can not subcontract that job if you didn't get permission from the judge for yet another "set of eyes" to see those documents.

I have no idea what you mean by a "secure environment." If the docs were sitting in MN's office, that was a "secure environment." If the media was hanging around outside, that changes nothing. I am 100% certain that the media was not in the room with JB, just as I am 100% certain that MN did not fill the room with rabid squirrels. There is a point at which speculation becomes silliness.

I agree that the new judge will take control and end the game playing.

Well thank you, that helps. If you are 100 percent certain that Mn did not let the media in that room, then that is not the reason they left. It was probably just left and planned to come back. No big deal. The press made it sound like it was them that caused them to leave, storming off.

I wonder why Jb would try to send in a sub contractor if he knew that was common knowledge that other eyes were not allowed.

What I mean by an secure environment is an area in which they can look at the docs without being disturbed. simple

How do you think the Judge will go about taking control of the situation?

 

[logicalgirl]

The defense has done that true. The state has done that through sunshine.
In any event, the Judge has to consider Kc's right to a fair trial when making decisions. He may be angry that this is a circus, but he needs to get it under control. Obviously Judge Strickland agreed that the defense should have this option to use the press, otherwise he would have approved a gag order. Is anyone stopping the SA from asking the new Judge for a gag order?

Good Lord! The SA has no issue with not having a gag order. You notice they have had absolutely nothing to say to the press since the beginning of the case.

It was the Defense and JB who DID NOT want a gag order. They can hardly go back to this new judge after their many many TV and press appearances and say - "Uh Judge, this isn't working out the way we thought it was so now we want a gag order".

 

[AZlawyer]

Well thank you, that helps. If you are 100 percent certain that Mn did not let the media in that room, then that is not the reason they left. It was probably just left and planned to come back. No big deal. The press made it sound like it was them that caused them to leave, storming off.

I wonder why Jb would try to send in a sub contractor if he knew that was common knowledge that other eyes were not allowed.

What I mean by an secure environment is an area in which they can look at the docs without being disturbed. simple

How do you think the Judge will go about taking control of the situation?

I would definitely like to know what qualified JB et al's departure as a "storming off" rather than a "leaving calmly with intent to return." Perhaps the local news channels have video?

I wonder why JB would have sent a copy company also. It's almost like he failed to read the order.

Part of being a lawyer on a high-profile case is that you might get "disturbed" by the media. One time I was getting directions from a client to his place of business, then as I was driving I saw 3 TV trucks going the same way. I said, "oh, never mind, I'll just follow this Channel 3 truck" and hung up. :rolling: JB can't provide his client with a proper defense if he's going to be this thin-skinned.

 

[beach]

Who would qualify as an expert "volunteer form inspector," anyway?

omgosh....I just opened this thread and this is the first thing I saw.

You slay me, AZ!!! :floorlaugh:

 

[beach]

Am I the only one who suspects that it might have been the defense that tipped off the media? :innocent:

 

[LambChop]

Am I the only one who suspects that it might have been the defense that tipped off the media? :innocent:

No. Really. I'm shocked, speechless actually.

 

[beach]

Am I the only one who suspects that it might have been the defense that tipped off the media? :innocent:

Excuse me for quoting myself -

I see this thread has been hopping recently! Should have read back a bit further. I see that I am not alone in my suspicions.

The only thing I have to add - it smells like a Cheney Mason strategy to me.

 

[Jay D]

Who would qualify as an expert "volunteer form inspector," anyway?

omgosh....I just opened this thread and this is the first thing I saw.

You slay me, AZ!!! :floorlaugh:

I agree and you're right on Beach, but I liked the following even more.
Matter of fact, I may seek permission to use it as my siggy.

Our beloved AZ is on a roll today!! :dance:

There is a point at which speculation becomes silliness.

 

[Gnatcatcher]

Well thank you, that helps. If you are 100 percent certain that Mn did not let the media in that room, then that is not the reason they left. It was probably just left and planned to come back. No big deal. The press made it sound like it was them that caused them to leave, storming off.

I wonder why Jb would try to send in a sub contractor if he knew that was common knowledge that other eyes were not allowed.

What I mean by an secure environment is an area in which they can look at the docs without being disturbed. simple

How do you think the Judge will go about taking control of the situation?

BBM.

If Mark NeJame had let the media in the room, I'm 100 percent certain it'd be all over the TV before I can finish typing this sentence. Exactly what sense does it make to think Mark NeJame would let the media in the room?

:banghead::banghead:

 

[ZsaZsa]

Well thank you, that helps. If you are 100 percent certain that Mn did not let the media in that room, then that is not the reason they left. It was probably just left and planned to come back. No big deal. The press made it sound like it was them that caused them to leave, storming off.

I wonder why Jb would try to send in a sub contractor if he knew that was common knowledge that other eyes were not allowed.

What I mean by an secure environment is an area in which they can look at the docs without being disturbed. simple

How do you think the Judge will go about taking control of the situation?

I think the Judge will take control of the situation by telling them to read the original order, abide by it, and stop whining and wasting everyones time with ridiculous stories about NeJame.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I am not blaming anyone. I was just stating fact. I am not aware of Jb violating a court order. Is there something wrong with the Judge ordering Tes to provide the documents in a secure environment?

Mr NeJame's office is a 'secure environment' as you call it. His clients have confidential conversations with him everyday.

If Mr Baez is too stupid to pull the blinds or curtains if he feels he is in a room where he can be observed, or ask to move to another room, you can't blame NeJame.
Which is more like Baez' MO- going along to do the work (which he was too lazy and sloppy to do months ago) , quietly and efficiently, or act like an toddler having a tantrum and whine to the media about it? Unfortunately his reputation precedes him .

 

[LambChop]

So, I was just thinking.....what if the files were all indexed with reference numbers and the personal information was removed? What would be the point of looking through the files if all you wanted were names and addresses? Would that make you mad enough to storm off? All defense wants is the search information and location of each searcher, right......? jmo

 

[The World According]

Of course it was the defense who tipped off the media. IMO
In kindergarten I believe they call it show and tell.

I would question the competency of a lawyer feigning confusion over a very uncomplicated judge's order, and then second order reiterating the same simple instructions, if I didn't know the truth. The truth is Jose is not confused, that is certain; because of the fact that he made the appointment to review the docs originally. Moreover, Linda Kenney Baden, Andrea Lyon and Cheney Mason (who have decades of experience) could help with some clues. Even Brad could have given him some sticky notes to tab the documents. Both Brad and Mrs. Drane Burdick reviewed and tabbed the documents, with no problem. What in the world?

So, after being ordered to do so, eight months ago the defense made an appointment to come to review the documents, and then canceled it. After that, they tried to send The Presentation Group (copy company) and were promptly told that would violate the court's order, so NO, they may not do so.

Mark knows that it would be public record when they came to review the documents. It would be known publicly as early as next week at the status hearing so obviously, he would have no reason to call the media.

The record is clear in this case that it is the defense that contacts the media, even gives the media their legal documents before they are served or recorded at the courthouse! That is going to come back to bite them; but that is a whole other show…..I mean issue.

The media learned of the eight months late visit one week earlier than they may have at the status hearing....that cannot be the problem.

Someone was sitting in the room to oversee them reviewing.....that was made clear from jump.....that cannot be the problem.

They knew they were to pay for the costs of Mark having to staff someone to sit in there for the long hours or days it may take to review the documents....that cannot be why they left.

The procedure of how to ask for money from the JAC is very clearly set out for them...they can't feign confusion about the funding.

To go over, as they were ordered and expected to do, knowing the rules and having the judge explain his ruling not only once but twice, to see that the media is photographing them from what I know would be outside of the room the documents are in, perhaps the lobby ....cannot be a legitimate reason that they left. Oh, no... The feigned righteous indignation is going to have to be something new; some freak one in a million circumstance that they are going to present as being harmful or prejudicial to their case.

With all the animosity and allegations going back and forth in this case, if I were the defense I would be shocked to not find someone and something watching my every move in Nejame’s office. Three times, three times, once by Jose, once by Todd, once by Andrea...the defense has tried to report to the court that Mr. Nejame has some potential ethical violation. Of course they were wrong, each time, but the point I am making is they clearly want it known publicly they do not like, trust or respect Mr. Miller, TES and Mr. Nejame. The defense even filed a document, that they knew to be in bad faith, alleging that Mr. Nejame showed the press the TES documents. This was after the reporter, Adam L. contacted Mr. Baez and alerted him that is not at all what happened!!! Damn straight Mr. Nejame is going to safeguard his staff, himself and Mr. Miller, his client, from any nonsense claims made by them about missing pages, altered pages, etc. If I were Mr. Nejame, I would have the videotape recorder, up front and centered and strict instructions to my staff that they are to be a tag team even if one needs to excuse themselves to go to the restroom for five minutes...that the defense lawyers are never to be left unattended, period.

Let's remember...these are the folks that accused the judge of impropriety, asked for the prosecutors to be thrown off the case, asked for sanctions against them, and like I said made false claims of a conflict of interest regarding Mr. Nejame. So if they got offended that there would be an audience....too bad...they set the tone for this. It wouldn't be prudent to leave them alone in a room with trust they have not earned.

We know from their heavily edited videos they are not above taking things out of context and twisting them into a pretzel, and nobody wants to get Kronked.

If Jose is unavailable because he is on holiday, I hope he does get some rest. He will need it . Judge Strickland was nearly a safe bet to convert the jury recommendation of DP into a life sentence for Casey. If I am understanding his record correctly, this judge plays hard ball regarding the DP! Out of all of the lazy, complacent, unintelligent, pitiful mistakes the defense has made, imo, asking for Judge Strickland to step down was the biggest mistake yet, and there have been some woppers!!!This is no time to mess around. They better bring their A game! They have a judge now that is not going to be patient with their learn as you go curve and be polite through utter incompetence as a courtesy to the lawyers. They have papa bear on the bench now and IT"S ON!!!!
Maybe the Skipper and Gilligan had a tiff, he threw down his hat and little buddy stomped off.
You just can't make this stuff up.

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Planned photo op, opening the door to Nejame's office

A money shot (also called a "money-making" shot) is a provocative, sensational, or memorable photo perceived to have value in the media.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/27552747...al-Docs-Notice

 

[ZsaZsa]

So, I was just thinking.....what if the files were all indexed with reference numbers and the personal information was removed? What would be the point of looking through the files if all you wanted were names and addresses? Would that make you mad enough to storm off? All defense wants is the search information and location of each searcher, right......? jmo

That would make me chuckle! I hope that's what it was. They could have given each searcher a code name ....:dance:

 

[LambChop]

That would make me chuckle! I hope that's what it was. They could have given each searcher a code name ....:dance:

A lot of files but maybe that is why MN wants to be reimbursed for his expenses. Take the original file, assign it a number (which it probably already has), make up a new file and put a copy of the search information in the file blacking out any personal info. ID's are secure and defense can focus on the materials instead of the names. Unless it's the names they want. jmo

 

[Gnatcatcher]

I am not blaming anyone. I was just stating fact. I am not aware of Jb violating a court order. Is there something wrong with the Judge ordering Tes to provide the documents in a secure environment?

BBM.

Everyone is aware that JB violated a court order. Everyone. For a perfect explanation of this deliberate defiance on the part of the defense, I encourage everyone to please read post #213 of this thread (brilliantly written by The World According).

 

[ZsaZsa]

A lot of files but maybe that is why MN wants to be reimbursed for his expenses. Take the original file, assign it a number (which it probably already has), make up a new file and put a copy of the search information in the file blacking out any personal info. ID's are secure and defense can focus on the materials instead of the names. Unless it's the names they want. jmo

:clap::clap::clap:

They could hardly start whining about lack of security at the office then, could they? :innocent:

 

[beach]

Of course it was the defense who tipped off the media. IMO
In kindergarten I believe they call it show and tell.

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--repectfully snipped

Just so I'm clear - are you thinking they could be self-aggrandizing media hounds? :innocent:


Great post, TWA! Happy to see you! :hug:

 

[LambChop]

After JB stating in court that MN let BC and a reporter look at the records and how outraged he was......what could he say if MN let him look at files that just pertain to the information he asked for? The names are not relevant at this point in their review of the files, they are only looking for locations of the searchers and their notes. So maybe we will find out Friday. If this is so be prepared to duck. (this IS just a guess) jmo

 

[logicalgirl]

BBM.

If Mark NeJame had let the media in the room, I'm 100 percent certain it'd be all over the TV before I can finish typing this sentence. Exactly what sense does it make to think Mark NeJame would let the media in the room?

:banghead::banghead:

Mark NeJame wouldn't have let the media in the room because then HE would have been defying the very court order he requested on behalf of his client Tim Miller.

The secure environment is Mark NeJame's office is because he is Tim Miller's lawyer and these 4000 documents are the property of Tim Miller.