All Things Britney Spears Part 1

[sandraladeda]

Although I totally agree with this ... I am not so sure that a media portrail is an accurate description of her parenting skills. IN reality we do not know what kind of mom she is.

Point taken. But BS is not oblivious to the media. I would think it would motivate her to behave in an exemplary manner, as all eyes are on her.

I don't see how the media distorts leaving rehab and then going to clubs. That's not spin, that's fact. A mother with addiction issues is dropping the ball as a parent if they visit clubs, imo. Whether it is her fault or she is at the mercy of her illness (addiction) she should not get a free pass to act in this self-destructive manner while maintaining custody of her children.

Whether or not the courts ultimately find her parenting lacking, I do not think it is wrong for KF to question her suitability to maintain custody of these children, given the failed rehab, given the erratic behavior.

I know that if my husband and I split, and he was behaving in this way, I would feel a responsibilty to my children to seek custody. IIRC, KF originally was not fighting for custody, no? Further, he stood by BS when she entered rehab. It is the recent string of odd behavior that has him reconsidering. This is the only responsible thing he can do, given her behavior....

 

[southcitymom]

....I don't see how the media distorts leaving rehab and then going to clubs. That's not spin, that's fact.....

I have no idea whether or not Britney is an addict, but I have read several times that she does not think she is an addict. If someone doesn't think they have a problem, they are not going to take steps to change. To expect her to change a problem she doesn't think she has is asking a bit much, IMHO.

I know several people who have been to rehab and who are not addicts. If she's not an addict, then going from rehab to clubbing is not so odd.

 

[jubie]

I love my children beyond belief and I am very proud to NOT have a list of mistakes that would mirror BS. I have my own mistakes to reflect on and I consider them pretty typical (Are they eating enough vegies, are they over-doing extra activities, are they missing out not ever having a grandfather on either side of the family? and so on....)

Life is good for my kids because as parents WE make it good and I have no problem saying it shows in my kids. They're worth it.

Out clubbing as many nights (obviously wasted) as BS is and all her other humilliating behavior is not mother material. Those boys just lost having their dad living in the same home and seeing their parents together, BS should be with them as much as possible to let them know they're safe and loved.


A couple months ago I felt sorry for her and thought she just needed a bit of time and to get away from KF but now I'm just disgusted and think this is the true BS and I don't see much changing anytime soon.



Jubie

 

[shopper]

I have no idea whether or not Britney is an addict, but I have read several times that she does not think she is an addict. If someone doesn't think they have a problem, they are not going to take steps to change. To expect her to change a problem she doesn't think she has is asking a bit much, IMHO.

I know several people who have been to rehab and who are not addicts. If she's not an addict, then going from rehab to clubbing is not so odd.

But don't you think Kevin is doing the right thing if he clearly thinks she's an addict (or has some other kind of problem, imo mental)? Of course Britney doesn't think she has a problem, so that's what other responsible people are supposed to do, step up.

If Britney wanted to convice Kevin or her family that she doesn't have a problem, if she really doesn't have one, is to stay her butt at home and quit going out to clubs and drink on a nightly basis? If she had no real problem with alcohol or drugs, then staying home wouldn't be a problem. Instead of being on her best behavior with the threat of losing her kids over her, she continues to act out. The fact that she can't see that tells me that something is wrong.

And as far as the media goes, she uses them as much as they use her. If she really wanted to stay out of the tabloids she could. But she makes sure they know where she is and what she's doing at all times. IMO.

 

[southcitymom]

But don't you think Kevin is doing the right thing if he clearly thinks she's an addict (or has some other kind of problem, imo mental)? Of course Britney doesn't think she has a problem, so that's what other responsible people are supposed to do, step up.

If Britney wanted to convice Kevin or her family that she doesn't have a problem, if she really doesn't have one, is to stay her butt at home and quit going out to clubs and drink on a nightly basis? If she had no real problem with alcohol or drugs, then staying home wouldn't be a problem. Instead of being on her best behavior with the threat of losing her kids over her, she continues to act out. The fact that she can't see that tells me that something is wrong.

And as far as the media goes, she uses them as much as they use her. If she really wanted to stay out of the tabloids she could. But she makes sure they know where she is and what she's doing at all times. IMO.

I was actually responding to the post about how the media didn't make up the fact that she went from treatment to clubbing.

I'm not anti-Kevin at all - I never have been. I think he was more prepared to become a father again than she was to become a mother. Shar and Britney both say he is a good father. I've always thought Kevin seemed decent enough.

Yes, if he thinks there is a problem and is concerned about the kids, I deeply respect his desire to do something about that.

It's just that I don't know what is really true - I am highly suspect of the media on the subject of Britney. I think, like most things, the truth of Britney and Kevin's situation is layered, complex, textured - not black and white.

I pray that Kevin and Britney will be able to find the right situation for them and their children. Based on what I know of the situation, I am just not willing to toss stones at either of them. I understand and respect that others feel differently.

 

[jubie]

I was actually responding to the post about how the media didn't make up the fact that she went from treatment to clubbing.

I'm not anti-Kevin at all - I never have been. I think he was more prepared to become a father again than she was to become a mother. Shar and Britney both say he is a good father. I've always thought Kevin seemed decent enough.

Yes, if he thinks there is a problem and is concerned about the kids, I deeply respect his desire to do something about that.

It's just that I don't know what is really true - I am highly suspect of the media on the subject of Britney. I think, like most things, the truth of Britney and Kevin's situation is layered, complex, textured - not black and white.

I pray that Kevin and Britney will be able to find the right situation for them and their children. Based on what I know of the situation, I am just not willing to toss stones at either of them. I understand and respect that others feel differently.

You come across so well spoken and never rude, I just can't see you making the kind of mistakes BS is as a mother. I agree with many of your points I just don't think alot of what you say can support BS behavior much longer.


Jubie

 

[shopper]

I was actually responding to the post about how the media didn't make up the fact that she went from treatment to clubbing.

I'm not anti-Kevin at all - I never have been. I think he was more prepared to become a father again than she was to become a mother. Shar and Britney both say he is a good father. I've always thought Kevin seemed decent enough.

Yes, if he thinks there is a problem and is concerned about the kids, I deeply respect his desire to do something about that.

It's just that I don't know what is really true - I am highly suspect of the media on the subject of Britney. I think, like most things, the truth of Britney and Kevin's situation is layered, complex, textured - not black and white.

I pray that Kevin and Britney will be able to find the right situation for them and their children. Based on what I know of the situation, I am just not willing to toss stones at either of them. I understand and respect that others feel differently.

I think it's a safe assumption that we all want what's best for her. If she's an addict or something mental going on, she needs help. Sometimes it takes a few times at trying or rock bottom to realize it. (And I know you don't need me to tell you that). But most of all, I want those babies to be in a safe, stable, loving home with whoever can provide that.

It's hard for me to be sympathetic past a certain point when it appears that something is amiss. It's frustrating that she can't see what her life has become and may get worse and that's a shortcoming on my end, that I can't be more sympathetic.

I totally understand and appreciate where you're coming from and your point of view.

 

[southcitymom]

You come across so well spoken and never rude, I just can't see you making the kind of mistakes BS is as a mother. I agree with many of your points I just don't think alot of what you say can support BS behavior much longer.


Jubie

You are so sweet, jubie.

I didn't make the exact mistakes she has made because I was an older more mature mother - and I had done a lot of good growing and settling into my path before becoming a mother. But the fact that I got some growth in before and not after children was the luck of the gods - and nothing planned on my part, I promise.

And after the birth of my second child, I spent a year making some awful unhealthy choices - even with some growth and maturity under my belt, my transition into motherhood was not entirely graceful! And it's still not!

But at Britney's age, had I had children (and even though I didn't, believe me when I say that I could have), I know I would have made the exact same blunders.

I am not saying Britney is mother of the year. I truly am not. I do think she has some things to work out and it is fairly obvious that she is struggling in numerous ways.

I just empathize, that's all. That is really all I am trying to say. I feel for Britney and Kevin and the kids, in equal measure. And I realize continually that I don't have all of the information to judge. I just don't.

If Kevin and Britney get into a custody battle, I will trust someone who does have all the information to make legal decisions. But still, I will feel compassion for this young confused woman who is trying to make her way as a mother - and I will pray that she finds her footing. And I will be hopeful that it will all work out exactly as it should.

While we all have our crosses to bear in this life, I suspect that these two young boys could have ended up in worse hands than Kevin and Britney's.

 

[southcitymom]

I think it's a safe assumption that we all want what's best for her. If she's an addict or something mental going on, she needs help. Sometimes it takes a few times at trying or rock bottom to realize it. (And I know you don't need me to tell you that). But most of all, I want those babies to be in a safe, stable, loving home with whoever can provide that.

It's hard for me to be sympathetic past a certain point when it appears that something is amiss. It's frustrating that she can't see what her life has become and may get worse and that's a shortcoming on my end, that I can't be more sympathetic.

I totally understand and appreciate where you're coming from and your point of view.

Shopper,

I too respect your opinion immensely - as well as the other opinions here questioning her judgment and mothering.

Maybe she is an addict. I do not know. Maybe she is like I was in my early 20s - I could party until the break of dawn, gulp down some quick sleep and get up and be successful at a high-stress job. Maybe she parties all night, mothers all day - and escapes again when the kids are in bed with a nanny at home. I simply do not know.

I do know that there is a huge burnout factor in that kind of lifestyle that will catch up with most people eventually. I also know how difficult, lonely and overwhelming I often found early motherhood (and that was with a supportive involved husband, a solid spiritual foundation, some financial security and a gaggle of loving supportive mommy friends in my life)!

I remember what it was like to want to escape the burdens of motherhood and to feel like I was in over my head. Sometimes I still feel like I want to escape today! I could lie and say I don't go out and party like a rockstar because I am sacrificing for my kids and that is the noble thing to do.

But the real reason that I don't do that is because it hurts me (I am ultimatetly very selfish) and because I do not want the type of mental, spiritual, physical and emotional fallout that accompanies such behavior. But that's me at age 40 talking. In my early 20s this was simply not a perspective I possessed.

I'm happy being me today and happy with my choices. But I still have not forgotten the 20-year-old me who thought she knew it all and could do it all and who couldn't listen to anyone else and who felt confused and lonely sometimes but couldn't admit that....and I didn't even have kids added to that equation! Gah!

God bless mothers (and fathers) everywhere! And yes, I believe that ultimately, everyone on this thread wants peace for Britney et al!

 

[Boyzmomee]

I think this explains our divergent sensibilities on the subject. It's awesome that you can make this blanket statement, but I can't.

Some days I can - some days I am proud of the way I parent. But there are just as many days where I wonder what in the world God was thinking to set the task before me.

I've been a parent for seven years and I still haven't figured spit out! I just strive to trust God and the process because I'm winging it every step of the way!

My oldest son will be 18 next year. He is a wonderful and hardworking young man.

My 10 year old is a sweetie.

Yes, I am very proud.

 

[Boyzmomee]

I agree with boysmomee, I too am proud of the way I parent. I put a great deal of thought and care and self-sacrifice into parenting. This is not to say I have not made any mistakes. But I am sorry for any mistakes I make and take steps to avoid making the same mistakes. To say that "We are all human" makes a nice sound bite, but I doubt there is a parent here at WS who has made the mistakes BS has been making and appears intent on continuing to make.

What has BS done to be proud of her parenting? Gave birth? Has money? What sacrifices is she making?

There is being human (we all make mistakes) and there is facing mistakes, and making changes to avoid repeating those mistakes, and to do what is best for our children. What has she done to make positive changes? Where is the maturity? Where is the sense of right and wrong?

imho

Great post. :clap:

 

[Boyzmomee]

Exactly!

Her family has expressed concern about the boys safety.

 

[Texana]

I think with Brittney and her parenting, it's an obvious example of "where's there's smoke, there's fire."

 

[cheko1]

I am not & never have been a fan of BS. I'm not sure either what is true or not about her.

Tonight I seen where she had her kids at a restaurant & it was after 10 pm & they were saying her kids should of been home & in bed. Then it showed as she was putting her kids in the car they took a pix of her underwear. Its gotta be hard living under such close scrutany. I'd hate & resent it.

 

[southcitymom]

My oldest son will be 18 next year. He is a wonderful and hardworking young man.

My 10 year old is a sweetie.

Yes, I am very proud.

And that is awesome and you should be. My boys are 4 and 6 - I love them so much my heart aches and am proud of them! Proud of my mothering on some days....maybe my perspective will change when they are a little older! I can't even imagine having a 10 or 18 year old!

 

[southcitymom]

I am not & never have been a fan of BS. I'm not sure either what is true or not about her.

Tonight I seen where she had her kids at a restaurant & it was after 10 pm & they were saying her kids should of been home & in bed. Then it showed as she was putting her kids in the car they took a pix of her underwear. Its gotta be hard living under such close scrutany. I'd hate & resent it.

Me too, cheko1. What a gruesome existence....not enough money in the world, IMHO.

 

[shopper]

I am not & never have been a fan of BS. I'm not sure either what is true or not about her.

Tonight I seen where she had her kids at a restaurant & it was after 10 pm & they were saying her kids should of been home & in bed. Then it showed as she was putting her kids in the car they took a pix of her underwear. Its gotta be hard living under such close scrutany. I'd hate & resent it.

I would hate and resent it too, but Britney courts the paps. She can't have it both ways with the paps. She makes sure they know what she's doing at all times. When she delivered that letter to her mother, she asked the paps if they knew where Lynne was, knowing full well they would follow her. Was that really necessary? As if she couldn't find out where her own mother was. And instead of calling her mother to the car or going inside the trailer, she got out and bitched her mother out in front of the cameras.


She could avoid them if she really, really wanted to. There are plenty of famous people who work and avoid all the constant scrutiny. At this point, the only thing keeping her famous is her crazy behavior because she sure hasn't worked in a long, long time.

 

[cheko1]

I would hate and resent it too, but Britney courts the paps. She can't have it both ways with the paps. She makes sure they know what she's doing at all times. When she delivered that letter to her mother, she asked the paps if they knew where Lynne was, knowing full well they would follow her. Was that really necessary? As if she couldn't find out where her own mother was. And instead of calling her mother to the car or going inside the trailer, she got out and bitched her mother out in front of the cameras.


She could avoid them if she really, really wanted to. There are plenty of famous people who work and avoid all the constant scrutiny. At this point, the only thing keeping her famous is her crazy behavior because she sure hasn't worked in a long, long time.

I as stated, am NOT a BS fan. Granted she is a accident waiting to happen. Yes she plays the role of a nut case very well.

Yes she should & could avoid the paps. She needs to get her chit together! Anything she has done gets a world of attention. Nothing she has done to date has been necessary. I would hate to see her loose her kids over the paps deciding she is unfit & thats what appears to be happening.

I'm certainly not saying her behavior is honorable becuse its far from it. I think she needs a beech slap to wake her up. But Hollywood does thrive on gossip.

 

[indallas2]

Look who was photographed with Britney at 4am in the morning going into a Beverly Hills hotel:

http://www.tmz.com/2007/08/16/britney-gets-her-freak-on-with-new-dude/


STAY FAR AWAY FROM BRITNEY, CRISS!!!!

 

[CarpeDiem]

Look who was photographed with Britney at 4am in the morning going into a Beverly Hills hotel:

http://www.tmz.com/2007/08/16/britney-gets-her-freak-on-with-new-dude/


STAY FAR AWAY FROM BRITNEY, CRISS!!!!

They both look so gross. It's a match made in Hell. I hope the hotel burned the bedding.:sick: