Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#11

[Katody]

I guess because you know enough about it to tell SMK she is wrong. You must have proof then, right? :facepalm:

The anonymous post that started the rumor still lives on the internet. So yes, I know what I'm talking about.:seeya:

 

[Katody]

OK, so they pulled the story out of thin air???

I believe so. I remember how the story evolved among the more feverish... pro guilt commenters.

 

[Myvice]

The anonymous post that started the rumor still lives on the internet. So yes, I know what I'm talking about.:seeya:

If it's anonymous how do you know who did or didn't post it?

 

[Myvice]

I believe so. I remember how the story evolved among the more feverish... pro guilt commenters.

If it was pulled out of thin air, why did she explain it? Was she under great pressure like she was when she named Patrick?

 

[SMK]

I believe so. I remember how the story evolved among the more feverish... pro guilt commenters.

So they just happen to concoct a story which was actually rooted in the truth? Rooted in Amanda's past? They must be psychic....... :waitasec:

 

[Katody]

So they just happen to concoct a story which was actually rooted in the truth? Rooted in Amanda's past? They must be psychic....... :waitasec:

No, the story they concocted out of a single anonymous post on some blog has nothing to do with what she describes. The only common root I see is a college prank.

 

[SMK]

No, the story they concocted out of a single anonymous post on some blog has nothing to do with what she describes. The only common root I see is a college prank.

Well, if they intuited a college prank, and that it had something to do with staging a robbery, then they had very sharp perception, indeed.

 

[SMK]

Amanda Knox: I’ll Be A Fugitive If They Convict Me

An Italian newspaper says the babyfaced Seattle native vowed to go on the lam if an appellate court upholds her conviction in the trial of the murder of Meredith Kercher.

01.09.14 by Barbie Latza Nadeau

If there is a rule book—and surely there is—listing all the things you shouldn’t say if you are on trial for murder, one would think that “If they convict me, I’ll become a fugitive” must be somewhere near the top of the list. The second thing on the list might well be, “When all of this is over, I want to visit the victim’s parents.”

But that’s exactly what Amanda Knox, the now 26-year-old Seattle native who is appealing her 2009 conviction for the murder of her British roommate Meredith Kercher, told Italy’s top national newspaper La Repubblica ahead of the last day of defense closing arguments in her second appellate trial, now being held in Florence.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ox-i-ll-be-a-fugitive-if-they-convict-me.html

 

[Katody]

Well, if they intuited a college prank, and that it had something to do with staging a robbery, then they had very sharp perception, indeed.

What the second hand prank story evolved into was a group rape in ski masks.

 

[Katody]

Here's the actual Skype interview with Meo Ponte published today.
http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2014/01/09/news/l_ultima_battaglia_di_amanda_knox_stavolta_sar_assolta_poi_incontrer_i_genitori_di_meredith-75463481/

 

[Myvice]

What the second hand prank story evolved into was a group rape in ski masks.

But that doesn't alter the fact that she had been involved in a staged burglary in the past, prank or not.

It was still a mental reference point.

Not having read the blog you refer to, it's still interesting without the embellishment. JMO

 

[SMK]

What the second hand prank story evolved into was a group rape in ski masks.

OK, well, that is definitely an exaggeration and untrue. And rightly never used in any of the trials.

 

[Katody]

But that doesn't alter the fact that she had been involved in a staged burglary in the past, prank or not.

It was still a mental reference point.

Not having read the blog you refer to, it's still interesting without the embellishment. JMO

It doesn't make the staging theory stronger.

Having some experience in staging burglaries she would have at least staged the theft of the laptops. JMO.

 

[aa9511]

Other evidence convince me he murdered alone. It's a curious fact that is not fully proven but it is not a problem for my scenario.



I believe they are innocent and the evidence supports it. Is this a problem?

The evidence that Guede murdered is aplenty. The wounded hand is an element for which there is no absolute proof and on it's own it proves nothing. If there was Guede's blood on the sheets or the handbag for example, that would make this element much stronger.

Ok. The thing is, I am used to debating with you over elements of Rudy which are in question in the guilty scenario, such as climbing inn through the window. Or elements which might include Amanda and RS, such as how he restrained Meredith, or the clean-up.

The cut finger, IMO, is not in question in the guilty scenario, nor does it involve anything to do with Amanda or RS. Meaning, it is a kind of independent data point, which I don't really see as an element of debate between the two sides, since like I said, it doesn't really have anything to do with Amanda or RS.

That's why I was just puzzled.

 

[aa9511]

Just wanting to give this addendum while Amanda's prank is on my mind:

She does say clearly that she "apologized for the distress caused" - to my thinking, an April Fool's prank should be funny , and not aimed at causing any distress. So there is something odd there, just noting it now..... :waitasec:

Thanks for your wonderful notation, SMK.

 

[aa9511]

I thought Guede's cut hand was more or less generic fact.

And that he had said something about being cut with the knife of the guy who said "black man found, found guilty" -

guess I am missing the point of the argument.... :waitasec:

Yes, I agree. But I see what they are pointing to in that picture, how come there is no arrow going towards the purplish part at the crook of his finger? I would think that would be from where he got cut when the knife would have slipped from his grip, at least that is what I was thinking this whole time. Where is that scratch head icon.....

 

[aa9511]

I think there would be a distinct set of drops, for example on the bed sheets where he left the purse with his DNA or on the purse itself. There was a mass of blood on the floor, yes, but they tested individually a lot of isolated blood traces on various items. No Guede's blood was found. Also, the blood on the handle and the light switch is Meredith's, not Guede's.

It seems to me he either wasn't bleeding that much (fingertips bleed profusely, the part that he cut, not necessarily so much) or wrapped his hand with something immediately.

If he had gloves, that he took off before, he could have put a glove on, too.

There's also the possibility that the cut is unrelated, happened later and Guede added it into the story.

Yes, you may be right on the above points. Except the last, I don't agree, I don't think it is unrelated. It is definately related to the murder, IMO.

 

[SMK]

It doesn't make the staging theory stronger.

Having some experience in staging burglaries she would have at least staged the theft of the laptops. JMO.

Well, it might explain how a prank escalated into an altercation. I think its quite illuminating, myself.

 

[Katody]

Well, it might explain how a prank escalated into an altercation. I think its quite illuminating, myself.

I'd love to see that explanation.

 

[SMK]

Yes, I agree. But I see what they are pointing to in that picture, how come there is no arrow going towards the purplish part at the crook of his finger? I would think that would be from where he got cut when the knife would have slipped from his grip, at least that is what I was thinking this whole time. Where is that scratch head icon.....

it's up in the icons--- click on the smiley face next to the font icon