Re entering her into Namus, do we need to get the local LE on board to do this? They're not responding to my emails re Helen Darlene so I'm not sure where to go from here? ThanksVery easy to enter her
Re entering her into Namus, do we need to get the local LE on board to do this? They're not responding to my emails re Helen Darlene so I'm not sure where to go from here? ThanksVery easy to enter her
Re entering her into Namus, do we need to get the local LE on board to do this? They're not responding to my emails re Helen Darlene so I'm not sure where to go from here? Thanks
whoa! Someone should show that to Carl !
Roselvr have you shown your friend Paula a pic of EDJD? I saw this pic she posted recently on her page and thought there was maybe some resemblance. I started looking back through her shots but only got as far back as May 2016 (there are a lot), will keep looking unless someone has already gone through this process?
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Thanks for sharing that.Just for those who still believe that Jackie Leslie is Or could be Eldorado Jane Doe. I was convinced to I was the one who submitted the match . I've talked to Todd Matthews of Namus she's in codis so is Jane Doe .They would have matched utomatically
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Do you mean this?
yes I mean YES RL!!!!!! where is that pic from ....that's her !!!!!
Are you serious?! That is huge coming from you Sloane.
I found it on Roselvr's friend Paula's photography facebook page. Comments on the photo and another one of her from the same page indicate she was maybe a dancer at the Black Garter club in Staten Island - I don't know what year it's from or anything. Roselvr, would you message Paula to ask if she knows any more about this woman? I am happy to do it if you don't have time, just thought I'd check with you first since she's your friend.
Are you serious?! That is huge coming from you Sloane.
I found it on Roselvr's friend Paula's photography facebook page. Comments on the photo and another one of her from the same page indicate she was maybe a dancer at the Black Garter club in Staten Island - I don't know what year it's from or anything. Roselvr, would you message Paula to ask if she knows any more about this woman? I am happy to do it if you don't have time, just thought I'd check with you first since she's your friend.
yes I mean YES RL!!!!!! where is that pic from ....that's her !!!!!
Pulling out a few more key items; topics for thought and discussion
** JM tends to point the finger at Tyrone for all the bad things they did, just an observation seems as thou this is a diffuse and deflect tactic to shift blame. Another observation is the fact he throws off anyone whom calls about EDJD as someone looking for a reward is this also a tactic to keep others off of the case. Once she is identified he no longer has a cow to cash in own.
JD - Dallas - Left JD for Tyrone
*A little confused, are their 2 people a JD and a JJ and somehow the initials were mixed up
Tyrone - Florida - Left Tyrone for JM)
Gail - ? - Gail is connected to Tyrone
JM - Dallas/Florida/Shreveport, Louisiana/Arkansas
Children
JM Letters - 12/20/15
*20 years he has wondered what happened to her children. They were left with someone in Ft Worth, TX.
(JM did not know whom they were left with, See letter 12/23/15)
*Tried FB when he got of prison but nothing there
(Was he searching by their names or some other random search)
*He already knew who they were (EDJD family) from what Mercedes had told him about there location names etc..
*I believe they wanted to be sure it was her b/c it has been so long since they had seen her.
(Her sister and mother supposedly visited them not too long before she passed, he and they had only been together a year and he had met them.
*Her family convicted me a long time ago
JM Letters - 12/23/15
*We left the kids in Ft Worth with every intention of going back
(1st the kids were left with someone that to me sounded as if JM did not know whom it was from his 1st letter. This letter states "we" left them in FW contradicting).
*I've been convicted by her family (Again) one would think the person convicted by family was EDJD however JM tends to repeat her family convicted him.
(IMO there something here that is bothersome b/c the family convicted him therefore he would do whatever he could to separate EDJD from them.
JM Letters - 1/1/15
*She was running with Tyrone
JM Letters - 1/26/16
*JM can't completely remember her name; it could be Helen or Julie
*EDJD showed JM an issue of Outlaw Biker from 1989 w/EDJD topless w/a biker gang
*Places where she may have stated her real name; Dallas - Life Foundation (Mar 1991), Shreveport Human Services (Mar 1991), Trailways Bus Ticket (Jun 1991).
(Interesting that EDJD purchased a bus ticket in Jun right before her passing assume this was the proof of the true intent to leave JM. This may have been found out by JM and was the reason for EDJD fatal ending.)
*Tyrone's last name was only mentioned in passing and I don't want to guess an be incorrect.
JM Letters Jan-16
*Gives the name Helen Stenner to a cell mate
*JM and EDJD were only together a little over a year (May,Apr 1990 - Jul 1991)
Really wonder what issue she was in and where she was. Wonder if she was at bike week or on the east coast. My friend Paula took pics for the mags, she's been putting a lot of the pics online
Outlaw Biker from 1989
Working timelines, Roselvr you brought up a very good point it could have been bike week.
• EDJD had been on the streets since she was 16 - EDJD had to have gone to school prior to being on the streets she would have been recognizable as being much taller than her classmates.
Virginia – Norfolk/Virginia Beach – (Late 1980’s)
• Menu – The Raven; Virginia Beach
• Menu – Worrell Bros; Virginia Beach
• Menu – The Trolley; Virginia Beach
• Menu – Metropol Market; Norfolk
• Menu – Phillips Waterside; Norfolk
1989 – Outlaw Biker Magazine - Showed photo of her in Outlaw Biker Mag
Arkansas – Little Rock – (1990)
• EDJD told friend her name was Kelly Carr runaway from Florida
• Possibly acquired the ID of Cheryl Wick while working as an exotic dancer. Prime Time now called Paper Moon.
Aug 16-17, 1990 – Staying with Gail, wanted to get to Texas to work mentions being in love. Tyrone gave Gail $ 100 and could not get the VW Volkswagen to work she was ready to get to Texas and get to work. (Possibly in Arkansas?)
Texas – Dallas/Irving – (1990-1991)
•(Mid – Late 1990) Stayed with the S family for a brief time, is the S’s connected to Tyrone and Gail or JM? * Jun – Dec 1990
•Told the S’s she was a runaway from Louisiana that recently moved from Minnesota she gave her name as Cheryl Wick
•Worked at KFC used the name Cheryl Wick (Was EDJD living with the S's while working here?
•Menu - Hooters
•(Mar, Apr, May 1990) - Met JM in Dallas, 1990
•(Dec 31, 1990 / Dec 19, 1990) – Arrested for prostitution, Cheryl Ann Wick –
La Casita Motel – 4300 Harry Hines Blvd. Dallas, TX. 75219
Served 13 days in jail; was given 20 days good time
•(Jan 26, 1991) – Arrested in Dallas gave associated name Catherine Marie w/ DOB 1/31/1970
•(Feb 8, 1991) - Arrested for public lewdness, Cheryl Ann Wick
Carousel Motel - 3211 Forest Ln. Garland, TX 75042
•(Mar 1991) – Life Homeless Shelter
Louisiana – Shreveport – (Mar 1991)
•(Mar 1991) - Visited Human Services - mental health, addictive disorder, and developmental disability services. (What was the reason for the stop and stay?)
Arkansas – El Dorado – (Mar 1991 – Jul 1991)
•(Mar 1991) – Salvation Army, told volunteer a child had been taken away from her by social services at the time she used another name and could not get the child back
•Received medical attention at the hospital for abuse
•(May 1991) - Arrested bad checks under Cheryl Ann Wick
•(Jun 1991) - Purchased Trailways Bus ticket - Where was she going?
•(Jun 1991) - Moved in with friend AC
•Told AC her mom was raising her (2) kids; (1) girl the other unknown
•Told AC she had previously been a stripper
•Told persons she had been to Virginia Beach
•Frequented the video store across the street from the motel
•DM stated they had been in FL, didn’t think EDJD had much of an accent.
•Detective located a letter to the FBI stating her name given was Kelly Lee Carr (24) and was wanted in Virginia and along the east coast for bank robberies.
•(Jul 10, 1991) - Final day on earth
Florida
•JM said he met EDJD mother and sister they lived in Florida
•EDJD told friend in Little Rock she was a run away from Florida
•JM told DM that they had been in Florida
•Detectives believe EDJD’s pimp was Tyrone in Florida
Oklahoma
•Once told JM she was from Oklahoma
I wonder if it was really 1987 or 88 for the mag. If she was at bike week, Paula may have pics on her page. Someone can PM her with EDJD's photo to ask her if she recalls taking pics of her in the late 80's. You can give her the names she used too. She may and she may not.
Here are some of her albums, this one is on her FB profile Vintage Daytona Photos by Pulsating Paula. She has tons of albums on her profile, I believe most are public.
Paula's Daytona album
Early 80's Harley Rendezvous Pattersonville, NY 3 day event
AM-JAM Classic Photos
Here is the cover January 1991 - Topless Tats at the Go-Go Rama. I don't see that I have a copy of the Black Garter on my FB, will look on my hard drive to see if I scanned the pages so I can see what date it was
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Are you serious?! That is huge coming from you Sloane.
I found it on Roselvr's friend Paula's photography facebook page. Comments on the photo and another one of her from the same page indicate she was maybe a dancer at the Black Garter club in Staten Island - I don't know what year it's from or anything. Roselvr, would you message Paula to ask if she knows any more about this woman? I am happy to do it if you don't have time, just thought I'd check with you first since she's your friend.
Roselvr have you shown your friend Paula a pic of EDJD? I saw this pic she posted recently on her page and thought there was maybe some resemblance. I started looking back through her shots but only got as far back as May 2016 (there are a lot), will keep looking unless someone has already gone through this process?
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Sunny where did this come from??????