Aruba - Natalee Holloway, 18, Oranjestad, 30 May 2005 #2

[Tadpole12]

[video=youtube;rurTdHoag0s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rurTdHoag0s[/video]
Inside Edition

 

[Tadpole12]

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comparison to possible burial site

https://www.flickr.com/photos/38745550@N04/shares/s5G58H

 

[Tadpole12]

Sero Preto http://google-maps.pro/satellite/Aruba#12.450500,-69.907904,16
Savaneta http://google-maps.pro/satellite/Aruba#12.462568,-69.937687,15
Urataca (Urataka) http://google-maps.pro/satellite/Aruba#12.506699,-69.968340,15

 

[Bently]

Great episode last night. I feel the info they have is genuine and I really like the forensics guy they brought in. I think this will be it. Praying for her family

I'm too and praying for the family. But perhaps for different reasons.

I had to take myself off this thread for posting because after the first 10 minutes of the first episode( I transcribed the entire first episode here) I saw where it was headed imho.

This whole Fiasco, I think it's horrible.

To me, it's intuitively obvious to the most casual Observer this whole thing is a farce.

ullhair: my heart bleeds for her father.

:moo: :cow:

 

[NJ Lawyer]

gabriel is on fb right now live https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/vb.100006046668726/1936366496574887/?type=2&theater

 

[neesaki]

Gruesome Twosome

@5:47 JL's notarized statement:

"In early morning hours of May 30, 2005,
the Kalpoe brothers dropped Joran and Natalee off along the road between the Marriott hotel and Mamba Beach Bar.
Joran and her eventually walked down to an isolated stretch of beach, North of Marriott Beach.
Once Natalee started to foam at the mouth and was incoherent he knew something was going wrong with his usual pick up routine
So he called his father Paulus who came to pick up, pick him up.

Once they got back to Joran's house they carried her into Joran's guest house because the guest house and the house were separate.
You know that's where they took all the girls to go party and basically like in the documentary that's where they took all the girls to get raped basically 'cause that's what ... did ...
Once they got back to Joran's house they carried her into Joran's guest house which separated from the family's house.
They strip her down and then Joran had his turn
...Joran did, took his turn with her
then Paulus followed.
His own father followed right in back of Joran.
?

Joran said she's dead
..... He was very upset with her overdosing.
Paulus told Joran that he did a little research and this situation is already from bad to worse, as far as her vitals go.
So as Natalee was laying there, they,
he goes on the computer and he's,
wants to find out, you know, how, if she's that drunk, can she die. what if ... she overdose.

But she was not dead, she was still alive,
She still had a pulse, at the time.
...Trying to get her medical attention would surely lead to an investigation. That's what Paulus told van der Sloot, his son.
And with GHB in her system and Joran being the last one she was seen with and his dna and his father's dna may be found on her,

left them with one solution one solution and one solution only:
Make her disappear.

She was then smothered, she was still alive.
She was smothered. She was basically killed.
She was smothered by Paulus.
He went ahead and put his hand over her mouth, and nose.
At the point she could barely had a pulse, so then, so she never felt it coming.

Then they had to fold her body in half to fit her in a burlap.
The burlap sack was concealed within a blue tarp.
Then, they then hid her body in a location Aruba Desert,
just before dawn on May 30 2005.
That is where she remained until Spring 2010 when Joran had enlisted my help."


That's when John came into play and he helped van der Sloot to dispose of her in a certain way which I can not say because it's part of the documentary.

Whoa... is this from the Oxygen series? Re: bolded.... Ok, I'm sick, disgusted, outraged, I have no words.

 

[neesaki]

gabriel is on fb right now live https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/vb.100006046668726/1936366496574887/?type=2&theater

Wow, I don't believe it. I don't know what to believe anymore, it's starting to look like a dog and pony show.

 

[MissLaura]

I'm going to watch episode 3 tonight. That statement from John is just sickening to read. It's hard to believe anything that comes out of his mouth. He's sick enough to come up with it all on his own. WTH is that YT video? How does this guy have a girlfriend?

 

[NJ Lawyer]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cP1CTHkvKJw&feature=share

I can comprehend one or two heartless people in a case besides the perp, but this case is just swarming with heartless, sociopathic opportunists. The last statement in the video is unthinkable.

 

[Tadpole12]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cP1CTHkvKJw&feature=share

I can comprehend one or two heartless people in a case besides the perp, but this case is just swarming with heartless, sociopathic opportunists. The last statement in the video is unthinkable.

Whoa, he's a creepy creepster.

 

[Tadpole12]

[video=youtube;cP1CTHkvKJw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP1CTHkvKJw&feature=share&app=desktop[/video]

JL/ G:
Just cause I said something in the
first few episodes, that don't mean it's true.
I told many, many lies in this story.
More than one. So.
Saying she was cremated, no, didn't happen,
didn't happen at all.

 

[Tadpole12]

hmm, dude deleted his previous Crazy adventures;
erectile dysfunction and car wreck.

Global Rebranding.

 

[margarita25]

[video=youtube;cP1CTHkvKJw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP1CTHkvKJw&feature=share&app=desktop[/video]

JL/ G:
Just cause I said something in the
first few episodes, that don't mean it's true.
I told many, many lies in this story.
More than one. So.
Saying she was cremated, no, didn't happen,
didn't happen at all.

(Marking.)

 

[Tadpole12]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0P-j2Tkf3Y

The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway: Producer Confidential (Season 1, Episode 4) | Oxygen

home?, communications tower, water tank, hill?
hill = Hooiberg ''Jamanota, a hill located in the Arikok National Park stands at 189 meters above sea level, and is the true highest point of Aruba. Although the exact origin of its name is not known, it is believed that Hooiberg came by its name due to its resemblance to a "hooiberg" the Dutch word for haystack."
https://www.visitaruba.com/things-to-do/sightseeing/hooiberg-aruba/

 

[Tadpole12]

https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/McDo...2ee72367da!2m2!1d-69.9944874!2d12.5169855!3e0

 

[Tadpole12]

Sombre, Urataka, Route 7 ?

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/So...bd97679550e5638!8m2!3d12.5125337!4d-69.963524

http://google-maps.pro/satellite/Aruba#12.508511,-69.966913,17

 

[Tadpole12]

gabriel is on fb right now live https://www.facebook.com/100006046668726/videos/vb.100006046668726/1936366496574887/?type=2&theater

Can someone possibly screen capture the FB info?

 

[Tadpole12]

http://www.ocregister.com/2016/01/06/5-tips-for-safely-comfortably-handling-cactus-sharp-succulents/

[h=1]5 tips for safely, comfortably handling cactus, sharp succulents [/h]
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If the oxygen film crew is being stuck by cactus spines and quills during daylight hours, how did PVS manage the task in darkness?

 

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Wonder when AVS posted the pic of the water tank.

 

[Tadpole12]

more JL/G ...
Natalee Holloway john ludwick breaks silence part 2
Sept13 2017


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