ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 7

[LambChop]

I saw a body language analyst right after the first GG interview with RR. About all I remember is that when GG started talking he pulled his lips in....that meant he was not wanting to reveal anything...which I thought sort of went without saying. I think his body language says arrogant, just like his sidekick of late.

Veering off a titch, Does Geraldo post is interviews?

I know there is a link on his site to a video but I was not able to view it. I guess you need a secret decoder ring or something. But the video is there, I just could not see it.

 

[LambChop]

Not to mention the customers are looking for much younger women - adult female prostitutes are $20 a dozen.

Wow....I didn't know that. That's a little more than the cost of a box of donuts.

 

[neesaki]

Is he smiling?

Must've found something funny about the situation, as he appears on the verge of laughter. JMO.

 

[neesaki]

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I know this was said in the Geraldo inteview:

One of the 3 of them GG, JB, or GR in that Geraldo show said that they went into the water to feed the fish.

That might not be so far from the truth...if Robyn's body was left in the water.

This is one of those questions, among many, which has been brought up that these interviewers mysteriously ignore and don't bother to get answers to. I find it strange that the cut to the commercial break happens right at that moment the crucial question or point is brought out, then when the break is over, it's as though it never happened. What is with that? I am just about fed up with these "exclusive interviews" and their BS. If they were true investigative journalists, they would get the answers to all these questions, they would not just ignore them.

I personally believe that Baez has put a stranglehold on them. He's not about to consent to these interviews unless it's according to his own very specific terms.

Just think about it, Baez even stopped GG when he was talking in the Geraldo interview, saying he was giving "too much detail". Why, what could he possibly say wrong if he's innocent?! And this he did, in front of the whole world! It looked as if he knew GG was guilty but he didn't want him to give it away. Again, IJMO

 

[neesaki]

I haven't read the entire group of postings regarding the show/program, so I don't know if this was discussed or not:

This case has something to do with GG's camera and the "beyond pornographic" images of Robyn, as said in the news, plus all of the evidence leading up to the disappearance that GG and RG met on an "adult" website.

IMO, one of the manipulations in this interview was to have the 3 children present hearing everything. That way, RF was prevented from discussing any sexual content pertaining to this case. If he had brought it up, they would have accused him of subjecting children to this material.

Totally agree. There is a very obvious ulterior motive for using his children and that is most likely it. Not in just one, but two interviews. How disgusting, slimy and smarmy can you get, GG and Jose Baez? God, I'm not sure which one makes me the most :sick:

 

[katydid23]

Totally agree. There is a very obvious ulterior motive for using his children and that is most likely it. Not in just one, but two interviews. How disgusting, slimy and smarmy can you get, GG and Jose Baez? God, I'm not sure which one makes me the most :sick:

I thought it was very telling when the older son said he had gone snorkeling with his father 'many times' and wanted us all to know what an expert snorkeler his dad was. One would think, if that were true, that he would not have lost a snorkeling mate like that in the ocean. The way GG tells the story, his wet tennis shoes were so DANGEROUS, and his buoyancy was so off, he was in a life and death struggle. That is just laughable, especially if someone has years of snorkeling experience. An experienced snorkeler would not have left his partner like that, without even looking back once. A rip tide does not make it impossible to turn your head and look back.

 

[neesaki]

There was a comment upthread about the rocks on Nanki Beach being sharp and jagged. That doesn't appear to be the case. My expectation is that salt water will cause volcanic rock to become smoother. Would you expect salt water to cause rocks to become sharp and jagged?

Well, GG definitely claimed that Robyn cut her foot on a rock, so if this were true, this would lead one to believe that the rocks are sharp and jagged. If the rocks are actually smooth, and not sharp and jagged, then one could conclude that she probably would not cut her foot on a rock. So, if you're saying that you don't think the conditions are such to support GG's story/lie about Robyn cutting her toe, that sounds very logical to me.

 

[neesaki]

You missed The Master in action by not following that case.

I watched it with live commentry from Bill Schaeffer who clearly thought Burdick and Ashton were going to walk away with the badge, as did the majority of people as well.

But Jose Baez masterfully out smartered both of them with strokes of pure genius.

Also live was a blog that Schaeffer was on and when I repeatedly said that Jose had them beat, I was set upon.

Baez is '"The Master" in action'? :floorlaugh:
IJMO, that Baez looked like a bumbling fool compared to Ashton and Burdick. This case was lost because he created an elaborate lie in his opening statement and for some unknown reason to me, he was allowed to get away with it. And, because they had the most dumb downed jury in the history of criminal court cases, again, JMO.
But 'nough said about Baez and why you think he's so great, don't ya think? Let's try to stick to the topic at hand. TIA :seeya:

 

[neesaki]

I've seen the video with the underwater camera where GG claims they went into the water. It is very clear why he had to get those sneakers wet. In order to say he was in the water he had to get into the water and looking at the rocky area between the beach road and the water there is no way you could walk stone cold sober through there without shoes. So how did she get into the water barefooted, under the influence of sleeping pills and drinking vodka, if he couldn't without sneakers when he's saying he was sober? The server said she was tipsy. How would he answer that question???? My guess is he can't. jmo

Yet another one of those questions that aren't being asked in these "exclusive interviews". JMO

 

[neesaki]

I thought it was very telling when the older son said he had gone snorkeling with his father 'many times' and wanted us all to know what an expert snorkeler his dad was. One would think, if that were true, that he would not have lost a snorkeling mate like that in the ocean. The way GG tells the story, his wet tennis shoes were so DANGEROUS, and his buoyancy was so off, he was in a life and death struggle. That is just laughable, especially if someone has years of snorkeling experience. An experienced snorkeler would not have left his partner like that, without even looking back once. A rip tide does not make it impossible to turn your head and look back.

Right. And an expert snorkeler wouldn't snorkel in heavy athletic shoes instead of fins. BTW, didn't he say he had fins, Robyn did not, but they both had masks, in the interview? So if he had fins, this raises an even bigger question as to why would he claim to have gone "snorkeling" in those heavey leather athletic shoes.
It makes absolutely no sense. JMO

 

[Saracen]

Since the legal circus of Baez has moved to the USA two things have happened,1; it has bought more people to this thread which is a good thing because of the different opinions that can be obtained and 2; it has taken the focus of what this thread is all about which is a woman called Robyn.So the main feed should be ,where is she?.. If she has been trafficked where too, if she has died where is the body? bodies do not evaporate..

 

[LambChop]

This was listed over on Caylee's thread:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...interview.html
posted by halboedeker on December, 5 2011 9:08 AM

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In a live interview, Gardner boyfriend Richard Forester called Giordano “a selfish coward.” He also dismissed the idea that Gardner would go into the water, saying she had hair extensions and feared the ocean.
Then Baez called in to answer Forester and warn that he was “dangerously close to defmation.” Baez also threatened to release an FBI report on the Gardner-Forester relationship.
This should be Forester’s last interview, Baez warned.

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Baez would do better to tell Giordano that. Was Baez, with his threats, trying to take the attention off what Forester was saying? Forester had some interesting questions: Why did Giordano wear tennis shoes into the ocean? Why did Giordano have his three sons along for the interview?
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First of all I do not know how JB would have access to FBI files on in an ongoing investigati on???? How would that be possible when GG has not been charged with anything nor was he arrested. FBI just does not hand over files to my knowledge so what would he be talking about? If it's a threat to keep him quiet, isn't that a bit unethical on JB's part. Very interesting to say the least. He sounds like a little boy. If you don't play my way I'm taking my toys home. jmo

 

[LambChop]

This was listed in the news thread on Caylee's Thread

http://abcnews.go.com/US/gary-giorda...4#.TtorTFsweSo
By OLIVIA KATRANDJIAN and COLLEEN CURRY - Dec. 4, 2011

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Gary Giordano, the lone suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, said he believes human traffickers may be behind it, but he couldn't explain how they might have made off with the woman.

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Giordano told "GMA" last week that Gardner may have been kidnapped as part of a human trafficking crime.

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"......There's plenty of fodder going on and plenty of nonsense and stories ... but there's absolutely nothing that indicates that Gary is guilty of anything," Giordano's attorney, Jose Baez, said today.

 

[vlpate]

I suppose just by changing the content and doing one per day it would be exclusive.

Well every interview so far qualifies as an exclusive if changing the story...err...content every day is the criteria

 

[LambChop]

Since the legal circus of Baez has moved to the USA two things have happened,1; it has bought more people to this thread which is a good thing because of the different opinions that can be obtained and 2; it has taken the focus of what this thread is all about which is a woman called Robyn.So the main feed should be ,where is she?.. If she has been trafficked where too, if she has died where is the body? bodies do not evaporate..

No, but in the water it's like a needle in a haystack. GG is implying that RG was scooped up from the water by some devious fisherman who was fishing out a sea that day and sold. Not sure why a human trafficer would want someone who drowned because he claims she disappeared in the water while right beside him. It's just a tangled web he is weaving. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Well every interview so far qualifies as an exclusive if changing the story...err...content every day is the criteria

And I'm sure JB is upset with GR but we all know what lengths GR will go to for an exclusive and he lets no one get in his way. Not even the US government with his little "map in the sand" exclusive...... jmo

 

[vlpate]

This was listed in the news thread on Caylee's Thread

http://abcnews.go.com/US/gary-giorda...4#.TtorTFsweSo
By OLIVIA KATRANDJIAN and COLLEEN CURRY - Dec. 4, 2011

Quote:
Gary Giordano, the lone suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, said he believes human traffickers may be behind it, but he couldn't explain how they might have made off with the woman.

Quote:
Giordano told "GMA" last week that Gardner may have been kidnapped as part of a human trafficking crime.

Quote:
"......There's plenty of fodder going on and plenty of nonsense and stories ... but there's absolutely nothing that indicates that Gary is guilty of anything," Giordano's attorney, Jose Baez, said today.

BEM: Yeah, cuz we know lying like a dirty toupee and changing your story (she drowned, no - drug traffickers snatched her out of the water,-no - I left her with a whale named Zoby on that rock), will buy you a few years.

 

[vlpate]

No, but in the water it's like a needle in a haystack. GG is implying that RG was scooped up from the water by some devious fisherman who was fishing out a sea that day and sold. Not sure why a human trafficer would want someone who drowned because he claims she disappeared in the water while right beside him. It's just a tangled web he is weaving. jmo

Perhaps, and I don't want to give anyone ideas, but perhaps they were necrophylliacs from the island of necropolis(?)

 

[LambChop]

Perhaps, and I don't want to give anyone ideas, but perhaps they were necrophylliacs from the island of necropolis(?)

I'm not familiar with them. Can they hold their breath underwater without causing bubbles? If he starts to blame aliens, I'm out. lol

 

[vlpate]

This was listed over on Caylee's thread:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...interview.html
posted by halboedeker on December, 5 2011 9:08 AM

Quote:
In a live interview, Gardner boyfriend Richard Forester called Giordano “a selfish coward.” He also dismissed the idea that Gardner would go into the water, saying she had hair extensions and feared the ocean.
Then Baez called in to answer Forester and warn that he was “dangerously close to defmation.” Baez also threatened to release an FBI report on the Gardner-Forester relationship.

Richard Forester put him in his place and he gave one of his typical, juvenile responses.

<snipped respectfully>

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Baez would do better to tell Giordano that. Was Baez, with his threats, trying to take the attention off what Forester was saying? Forester had some interesting questions: Why did Giordano wear tennis shoes into the ocean? Why did Giordano have his three sons along for the interview?

Exactly
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First of all I do not know how JB would have access to FBI files on in an ongoing investigati on???? How would that be possible when GG has not been charged with anything nor was he arrested. FBI just does not hand over files to my knowledge so what would he be talking about? If it's a threat to keep him quiet, isn't that a bit unethical on JB's part. Very interesting to say the least. He sounds like a little boy. If you don't play my way I'm taking my toys home. jmo

Forester handed him his big boy panties and he didn't like it. You're right, JB would have no access to any files whatsoever because he is basically GG's media ride.