Attorney Seeks To Spare Casey Anthony From Death Penalty

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  • #181
Won't the Therapist deposition/testimony be revealing or will she claim Dr./Patient confidentiality? How could a grandmother allow KC to take Caylee especially knowing she had no where to go....it doesn't make sense.
 
  • #182
In order to prove PPD there would need to be more then we have seen so far.
I wonder if she was taking anti-depressants? In all the miles and miles of photos we have seen so far I can't think of one where she looked depressed. Quite the contrary, she is always smiling broadly.
This won't fly with a jury, IMHO, because of all the photo's we have of her partying.
OTOH she has some serious mental problems that are evident by her behavior. But I think the defense could probably come up with evidence of her being that way long before the birth of Caylee.
 
  • #183
"New" technology does not mean it's invalid. I agree. I think they've thrown the gauntlet...They want to work out a deal.

They want to work out a deal? OK lethal injection or the chair?
 
  • #184
Uh--sure does look like it to me. He's acknowledging it by his qualification that it (filicide) "was not cold, calculated and premeditated".

Definitely appears to be setting the ground work for an insanity / mental illness plea.

Can't be............All the Anthonys say she is still alive and it is just a matter of days before they find her. GA has "been watching" them.

I bet CA is LIVID over this.........can't you just hear her now? She had no idea it was coming because that is KC's attorney NOT HERS..........I can't help but laugh.
 
  • #185
I don't believe that Casey's 'irrationality' is being offered as a defense for the murder charges. The defense is saying that Casey wasn't a cold-hearted unfeeling murdering mother......she was confused. Therefore, she should not be sentenced to death - IF found guilty.
 
  • #186
First off I have to say that I find this quite a coincidence that they do this RIGHT before the new doc dump is coming out. WHAT could those docs say that will paint Casey in a worse light?!

Second of all, the psych defense is NOT going to fly! Her other lawyer (not Baiz, but the one that went on national tv and said JG got fired from LE because of mental issues.) He said that Casey was perfectly sane and that she was a smart and very intelligent woman,.. blah blah blah. So if her lawyer says she is not mental, how the heck can they use that as a defense? And I agree with everyone that says how can they say she was acting irrational when ALL OF THE INTERVIEWS say she was acting normal? NICE TRY BAIZ!

Now I have a question. If they do end up giving Casey a deal, and she has to tell what happened and where Caylee is buried, will WE ever hear it? Or will we only hear it if it goes to trial?
 
  • #187
Won't the Therapist deposition/testimony be revealing or will she claim Dr./Patient confidentiality? How could a grandmother allow KC to take Caylee especially knowing she had no where to go....it doesn't make sense.

No therapist, ect. could find out enough about her in an evaluation that was that brief to make a valid diagnosis..IMO
 
  • #188
I don't believe that Casey's 'irrationality' is being offered as a defense for the murder charges. The defense is saying that Casey wasn't a cold-hearted unfeeling murdering mother......she was confused. Therefore, she should not be sentenced to death - IF found guilty.

I think that someone (defense attorney) is pretty sure that the body will be found this weekend. I'm starting to believe this even though before I was highly doubtful.
 
  • #189
WOW.....so are they going for the mental illness defense now? They sure don't seem to be proclaiming her innocence in this piece, huh. I also find it connfusing that they choose to send this at this particular time. It makes her sound guilty.

Seems a little odd to me. Her own mother said Casey would ge the MOTY award. If they put Cindy on the stand & she says, yeah, Casey has been acting nutty for awhile now, she will be torn up for doing nothing to protect Caylee. If she talks about what a good mom KC was, she gets torn up because she is saying she doesnt think KC was mentally ill. It's sure a lose lose for Cindy.
I think CIndy will be furious at the defense if they present KC as mentally ill.
She wants the world to see them as a "normal" family, with no issues, that sit downs to dinner together every night. Heck, maybe they are, I'm not at their home. She will not want her daughter to be presented as unstable. Of course she doesnt want her presented as a killer either. I think she will still say it was the fault of her "new" friends who were into bad stuff.
 
  • #190
They included baby photos of KC in this document! (Talk about too little, too late.) I doubt that we'll see one of Caylee in there.
 
  • #191
Thank you, Chilly!! As someone who suffered from post-partum depression after the birth of my twins, I can assure everyone here it 'ain't' no party!
Panic attacks when my husband would leave to go to work (mom would come over at 7 am) heck, I was afraid to DRIVE let alone drive to a bar, grocery store, Target for some push up bras. You get my drift. My goal seemed to be just trying to make it through a day and feed, diaper, snuggle my boys!

I never had PPD, but I have worked with young women who have and it is NOT pretty, like you say.

It sure is not about going out to clubs every night, or bedding down all the men you can find. The cases I have seen, the women struggle just to get a shower each day and survive to the next day. They sure don't drink and text 20 hours out of 24 because they barely have the energy to stay out of bed for the daytime hours.

That will never wash.
 
  • #192
I think that someone (defense attorney) is pretty sure that the body will be found this weekend. I'm starting to believe this even though before I was highly doubtful.

IIRC the ping maps were not out when they were here before Fay? Those are very telling for the searches.
 
  • #193
Andrea Yates was legally mentally ill. Casey is nowhere near that, I don't care how much "emotional distress" she's had since Caylee's birth.
How distressing it must have been, to have her mother there to care for Caylee and pay all the bills. Boo hoo.

You can say that twice and mean it. KC has no clue what it is like to be actually flat azz broke with a baby, that is emotional distress.:furious:
 
  • #194
Seems a little odd to me. Her own mother said Casey would ge the MOTY award. If they put Cindy on the stand & she says, yeah, Casey has been acting nutty for awhile now, she will be torn up for doing nothing to protect Caylee. If she talks about what a good mom KC was, she gets torn up because she is saying she doesnt think KC was mentally ill. It's sure a lose lose for Cindy.
I think CIndy will be furious at the defense if they present KC as mentally ill.
She wants the world to see them as a "normal" family, with no issues, that sit downs to dinner together every night. Heck, maybe they are, I'm not at their home. She will not want her daughter to be presented as unstable. Of course she doesnt want her presented as a killer either. I think she will still say it was the fault of her "new" friends who were into bad stuff.
Cindy should have kept her mouth shut "from day one". She's done more damage to her daughter's case than anyone else. If the trial goes forward, you can count on seeing lots and lots of video/audio of Cindy and the information/lies she has given (mostly incriminating).
 
  • #195
I think that someone (defense attorney) is pretty sure that the body will be found this weekend. I'm starting to believe this even though before I was highly doubtful.

He is getting out ahead of the finding of the body..........Another possibility is GA told them where it is...........
 
  • #196
Yup...but that happened right before she left the house...which the therapist also advised her (CA) to do (kick her out). So obviously no one saw it as a threat that Casey would leave with Caylee...unless they never believed Casey would.


Cindy did not kick Casey out and she did not leave with Caylee, other than to take her to the imaginary babysitter.
 
  • #197
I never had PPD, but I have worked with people who have and it is NOT pretty, like you say.

It sure is not about going out to clubs every night, or bedding down all the men you can find. The cases I have seen, the women struggle just to get a shower each day and survive to the next day. They sure don't drink and text 20 hours out of 24 because they barely have the energy to stay out of bed for the daytime hours.

That will never wash.

Nothing's gonna wash, except the truth!
 
  • #198
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-death110508,0,6113475.story

Submitted by defense to prosecution outlining why prosecution should not seek death penalty, in part reads:

"The crime was not cold, calculated and premeditated. In the months leading up to Caylee's disappearance, Anthony's behavior was described by friends and family as "erratic and not entirely rational."

He wrote that filicide – the act of a parent killing a child – is different than other homicides. The underlying reasons why mothers kill are complex and can be divided into various categories. For example, one type is a parent who kills under influence of mental illness. Another type suggests a parent's motive may be to save the child from real or imagined harm.

Juries are more likely to show mothers mercy. He mentioned Andrea Yates – a Texas mother who drowned all five children – was sentenced to life in prison. Susan Smith, the Arkansas mother who pushed her car with her two children inside in a lake, got life in prison."


Is this an acknowledgement of Caylee's murder??


ETA: Changed thread title that was my question I was asking per request from mod.


Andrea Yates was mentally ill. In my opinion she is not in the same category as Susan Smith or Casey Anthony.
 
  • #199
Should have been more specific with my previous comment....I was referring to Cindy's therapist who suggested that she get custody of Caylee. The therapist must have sufficient information to tell her to take action. Wonder if those records will ever be released due to confidentiality laws.
 
  • #200
Your guess is as good as mine. I think the defense has realized that they are soooooooooooooo far up the creek without a paddle that they better start looking for a deal. Whether the air samples are too new a technology to be accepted in court, there is a PLETHORA of evidence that they cannot spin their way out of.
Let me see...chloroform in the trunk...chloroform on the computer...hmmmmm!
 
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