Attorney Seeks To Spare Casey Anthony From Death Penalty

[ellieit]

here is another thing to ponder!
If they are going to say that casey had a mental illness then one would think that they are going to have to show a history.
Medical records - treatment - medication-

and it would have to be severe and if it was such then why would she have custody of Caylee and not CA who is a RN and should have know or seen signs of a mental illness? or she was temp insane and in that case she would not have covered up the crime as that shows she new right from wrong.

 

[Pink Panther]

So how does a document like this "leak"? It looks like the whole thing has just been handed over. Everyone has it. What's the purpose of letting this out?

 

[BetsyB]

Good heavens. Time to pick a story, guys.

They're going to have a tough row to hoe if they are contemplating diminished mental capacity. Casey's post-disappearance behaviors show that she was fully aware of the consequences for her actions.

She's a sociopath. There's no get out of jail free card for that.

Cindy and George must be beside themselves at this point.

 

[BeanE]

This defense team had better figure out ONE story and stick to it.

If they are going to say that Caylee is alive and was kidnapped, they had better stick with that story until the end of time. Even is Caylee is found, they had better stick with the kidnapping story to establish any sort of reasonable doubt.

If, however, they are going to throw out something about accidental overdoses (or some other hooey that they are making up), then they had better pick that defense and GO WITH IT.

And they can't change their minds after Caylee is found. If Casey sticks to the kidnapping story until Caylee is found and then changes to "Oops, it was an accident" no person in their right mind would believe her.

If, however, she says it was an accident now and tells them where the body is, I think she could get life instead of the death penalty. And, a miracle worker might be able to convince a jury of a mental illness defense.

If we find that baby without Casey's help, I personally think she has ruined any chances for herself. People are already angry. She is just asking for the dp if she throws out an accident excuse after we find Caylee. If, however, she starts talking and tells us where Caylee is, she could go with the mental illness or accident defense and she might have a chance at survival.

I agree so much, on every point. Good post!

One and only one feasible, believable story, and give the truthful location of Caylee's body.

 

[Pink Panther]

Given that her life is on the line, she might be willing to provide some information now...

It does sound like the defence is putting "feelers" out to see if some sort of deal can still be worked out.

Remember her best friend Ryan said that she would never talk unless there was something in it for her. Maybe DP off the table could represent this to her?

 

[Lanie]

I wish I could be there with you. I look at my husband from time to time in all of this and say I have GOT to get to Florida! I need to go to Florida! Can you find a way for me to go to Florida? I am in Virginia and have 5 children at home and one out on his own with a new grand-baby, so my leaving for even an evening gives my family the "shakes", but I do so wish that I could be there with you and I will have you upmost in my thoughts and in my prayers that you will be led by that Spirit of Light and that the Light will shine upon our Caylee...Blessings to you and all the others who will search with you!:clap:

Just a suggestion, but here is what I did. I live in TX, and wanted to go to FL for previous searches, and could have gone to FL, but then I figured it was kind of silly for me to spend all that money to add one person to the search, so I sent in a donation of what I figured it would cost me round trip, and for a few days stay. I just thought that would actually be more of a benefit to them than just me showing up to search.
Lanie

 

[BeanE]

So how does a document like this "leak"? It looks like the whole thing has just been handed over. Everyone has it. What's the purpose of letting this out?

I've been wondering that too, PP. Right now I'm thinking the DP penalty attorney feels a moral or ethical obligation to his client is not being met, and leaked the document in an attempt to get it met.

Looking at the elephant that's *not* in the paper (the kidnapped-Caylee-is-alive story), I think after looking everything over, that as a defense has the DP penalty attorney tearing his hair out. He's got walls all around him blocking him from doing anything sensible about it (Baez, Casey, Cindy), although I'm sure he's pleaded his case (so to speak) with every one of them.

Not having been able to get through any of their thick skulls, and with time to trial being short, he did what he could short of quitting: he leaked it so pressure could be applied from the outside and see if that will get through their thick skulls.

My understanding is that it's not easy to quit as an attorney on a DP case. I think he has to get the judge's permission to quit, doesn't he? And the judge can say no?

All MOO.

Just when ya think there can't possibly be any more twists and turns to this case...

 

[Capri]

So how does a document like this "leak"? It looks like the whole thing has just been handed over. Everyone has it. What's the purpose of letting this out?

bumping up tyo see if anyone knows what benefit it would be for the defense to leak this?

 

[BeanE]

Just a suggestion, but here is what I did. I live in TX, and wanted to go to FL for previous searches, and could have gone to FL, but then I figured it was kind of silly for me to spend all that money to add one person to the search, so I sent in a donation of what I figured it would cost me round trip, and for a few days stay. I just thought that would actually be more of a benefit to them than just me showing up to search.
Lanie

Excellent idea, Lanie! I think I'll do the same thing

Thanks!

 

[Lanie]

She just BURNS ME UP! on ALL levels. I was a mother at the tender age of 17 years and 1 day. I had no mother of my own, and no support system to speak of. I ROSE to the challenge of being my sons mother, and then one by one, all of my other children's mother, and this without ANY assistance or support system from extended family. I have 2 children with diagnosed autism in the midst of the 6 that I had, and to hear and see the things that this spoiled little BRAT princess has done WITH an apparently FIRM and SECURE support system just chaps my you know what to no end! I am 20 years her senior, and I have a son OLDER than she is and have seen a LOT in life, and her pathetic excuse for BEING a mother is no excuse to me. I KNOW what it IS to BE a mother, and I could not imagine tricking my family into thinking that I had a job for 3 years so that I could escape them for 8 to 10 hours 5 days a week so I could go and do NOTHING important. She just is over the top in the narcism department and I for one cannot tolerate her! Rant over...for now...I think...:furious:

ABSOLUTELY!!!! I, too, had a child at 17, no support system, etc. etc. I HAD to go back to my REAL job 2 weeks after my child was born, 70 hours a week, just to barely scrape by and pay the rent and bills. I have no sympathy for this woman whatsoever.
Lanie

 

[BeanE]

I wonder whose bright idea it was to throw in the childhood pictures?

They make me crazy. I'm glad for the santa outfit pic though. The big fake smile, the big dead eyes. Sociopath as a child. Scary and sad, but interesting to see.

 

[Lanie]

On at a time.

Not unless the State can link the child sites to the formation of a plan to commit murder, rather than just web surfing. I have looked at those sites, you too probably.

Not unless the State can prove that KC poisoned Caylee with chloroform.

Well, JIMO, of course, chloroform searches by mother + mother's missing child + chloroform and evidence of decomp and death band hair matching said missing child's mDNA found in trunk of mother's car = premeditated murder beyond a reasonable doubt.
Lanie

 

[mom2chloe]

Respectfully snipped
Only reason I can come up with is that they are preparing to drop the gauntlet IF Caylee is found and Casey is in a position of having to admit to something in order to be spared the DP (e.g., we still don't know how Caylee died, so what if Casey's worried about there being more than soft tissue injnuries, etc.)

(bolded by me)

Do we know if the prosecution could offer her a deal for LWOP on the contingency that she truthfully disclose the method of death as well as the location of the remains, only to go back to the DP if they find KC lies again regarding this?

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

bumping up tyo see if anyone knows what benefit it would be for the defense to leak this?

IMO, to garner sympathy???

From the start, this family has claimed and still do that Caylee is alive, now that this is leaked (by defense??) makes me think Casey could have confessed this or is very worried about the DP. I also feel that visit from that minister may have got this ball rolling...

Casey is not depressed, at least not by the partying photos after Caylee went "missing". I believe she had flouised after that. She was free from the parental responsiblities and free from Cindy. She may be depressed now being locked up with no friends, no cell phone to call or text anyone, but at the time of the offense, no..

She had too much evidence against her, could be the defense doesn't want this to look like it was pre-mediated but LE have her searches on her computer which could definately buy her the DP.

If there is mental illness it needs to be well documented to use as a defense. Casey is not mentally ill, she is just pure evil...she comes first.

Then the TES search is soon to resume. Casey is becoming unglued knowing Caylee will be found. If she decides to give the location on where she placed Caylee, then I feel the prosecutor will go along with taking the DP off the table (even though they haven't decided if they will even go after that)!

Either way, Caylee will be found, with or without Princess LiesALot's help.

JMHO!

 

[belimom]

As mentioned above, personality disorders and mood disorders are mental illnesses. The majority of people probably suffer from some form of one or the other, or even both. However, they do not necessarily mean someone is insane. The difference lies in whether or not someone has a psychosis - has lost touch with reality. (And, yes, psychosis is a "class" of mental illness, not just a symptom: there are neuroses and psychoses). As far as being a sociopath, I'd bet a good many folks who are in prison for serious crimes are sociopaths. Doesn't equate to insanity.

 

[concentric]

Now we have our defense.............but isn't it a little late for post birth event trauma? Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Lenamon wrote that experts will likely agree that Anthony as "suffering from episodes of extreme emotional distress and disturbance since her daughter's birth." Even the lack of emotion after her child's disappearance and arrest "is not normal," he wrote.

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Maybe they are going to add to PPD, the supposed "miscarriage," which can cause similar symptoms to PPD. And we don't know how many pregnancies there were, i.e. when Cindy said something to the effect of: "not again."

Also, maybe add in that she had severe menstrual problems around the time that Caylee disappeared?

 

[Lanie]

The whole grabbing the money thing just rubs me the wrong way. I don't know. I guess it must be the only way they can come up with a chunk of change to try to keep Casey from going to death row. I try and put myself in their shoes and think how I would feel. Caylee is gone. Do I help my daughter get a defense team to spare her life or do I watch her go to jail and maybe die also. Just can't wrap my head around it. My son would not have ever been allowed to do the things that Casey did with or without a baby of his own.

And therein lies the crux of the matter. For all of us parents here who raised our children with discipline and consequences, led by example, taught them the difference between right and wrong, what we would now do if our children did this horrible thing is moot. Our mindset has been completely different from the A's for way too long to be able to put ourselves in their shoes. For them, this is just SOP.
Lanie

 

[Marina2]

From the memo sent by Lenamon to SA office.

Second paragraph starts:
"You will see that death is not appropriate for this young woman for many reasons. First, the evidence certainly cannot support death aggravators, moreover, several evidentiary problems exist in the case. Second, at most, only one of 15 aggravators applies in the circumstances of this case."

He is most likely referring to the age of the victim aggravator but he forgot this one:

(12)The victim of the capital felony was particularly vulnerable due to disability, or because the defendant stood in a position of familial or custodial authority over the victim
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/aggravating-factors-capital-punishment-state

To me, this is the most aggravating factor of all. Poor little Caylee never had a chance against her own mother and he chose to ignore it.
Incidently, according to this site, there are 17 aggravating factors, not 15.

 

[Lanie]

It took me 10 minutes to figure out what NGBRI means, I'll have you know.

LOL, I know what you mean. I got that one right away, but PPD threw me for quite a while.
Lanie

 

[Merry1]

I don't understand how your laws work ? as in how can you convict someone of Murder when there is no body? dont get me wrong I think Caylee is dead and I think Casey did it.. (or knows who did but i am more inclined to think it was her - but not premeditated)
But I still dont even know how someone can be convicted with out hard evidence or witnesses or a body ?

Don't mean to get off topic, but when I read Jane's post, I immediately thought of a fairly famous case in Australia, and looked the information up in Wikipedia:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Azaria Chantel Loren Chamberlain (born 11 June 1980 in Mount Isa, Queensland) was a ten-week-old Australian baby who disappeared on the night of 17 August 1980 on a camping trip to Uluru with her family.
Her parents, Lindy and Michael Chamberlain, reported that she had been taken from their tent by a dingo. An initial inquest, highly critical of the police investigation, supported this assertion. The findings of the inquest were broadcast live on television — a first in Australia. Subsequently, after a further investigation and second inquest, Azaria's mother, Lindy Chamberlain, was tried and convicted of her murder, on 29 October 1982 and sentenced to life imprisonment. Azaria's father, Michael Chamberlain, was convicted as an accessory after the fact and given a suspended sentence.

Maybe JB could add the "dingo defense" to the list.