Attorney Seeks To Spare Casey Anthony From Death Penalty

[mom2chloe]

I wonder whose bright idea it was to throw in the childhood pictures?

I love the idea of the childhood photos. Then, the prosecution can put up photos of Caylee and maybe the last sound and picture those jurors hear and see before beginning deliberations will be the video clip of Caylee snuggled into her great grandpa, singing "...please don't take my sunshine away ".:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

 

[suspicious mind]

An ex boyfriend once told me, while I was showing him a photo album of me when I was a child, that people do that when they feel guilty about something b/c they want them to see them as innocent as they were when they were a child. That could have been true, b/c I was cheating on him at the time. (!) I know, I was 18 so.....

 

[Lanie]

here is another thing to ponder!
If they are going to say that casey had a mental illness then one would think that they are going to have to show a history.
Medical records - treatment - medication-

and it would have to be severe and if it was such then why would she have custody of Caylee and not CA who is a RN and should have know or seen signs of a mental illness? or she was temp insane and in that case she would not have covered up the crime as that shows she new right from wrong.

Would this be the same RN who should have known or seen signs of a pregnancy?
Lanie

 

[Truth Seeker]

"The death penalty-qualified attorney, who is helping Jose Baez, said he wanted Casey to be evaluated by a nationally known psychologist who was involved in the Unabomber and the Elizabeth Smart cases. The attorney thinks Casey is mentally ill, but we’re told Baez rejected his suggestion."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17914492/detail.html

This doesn't even make sense!!

 

[itsjustmecherri]

Isn't 2 1/2 years a little late PPD.

I have a friend who had it after the birth of both of her children... The first child, I don't think she seeked medical help for it but did overcome it by herself by the time her daughter was 6 months old. With her last one, her father actually called her obgyn and "told" on her, they medicated her and was over it by the time the baby was 5 months old. And she was SEVERELY depressed after the last one. So I would think 2 1/2 years would be an extreme case of depression... one that would have resulted in harm way before it actually did. And honestly, I don't think depression would result in her acting so caloused afterwards... I would think that she would be extremely emotional, not no emotion at all. But then again, I am not a medical profressional so this is all just my opinion. :crazy:

 

[summermood32]

They need to leave the DP there on the table, KC Does have A mental Illness regardless how all this goes down BUT just because you have a mental Illness does not mean that you dont no right from wrong. If KC would have done the right thing and just say I cant or I dont want to be a mom anymore and walk away left her with her mom a friend etc. She did not have to do it. The reason she did it because she was MAD at her mom she was being selfish. CMA was only 2 A post Partum depression something would of happened sooner and when you are depressed you dont want to get your a@@ out of bed or even take care of yourself and cindy being a nurse would of seen the signs, I don't by it she did this it was not an accident period....

 

[Marina2]

I love the idea of the childhood photos. Then, the prosecution can put up photos of Caylee and maybe the last sound and picture those jurors hear and see before beginning deliberations will be the video clip of Caylee snuggled into her great grandpa, singing "...please don't take my sunshine away ".:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Bold is mine.

And Caylee singing it back to him. :cry:
If I were a juror that would cost Casey her life. Good thing I'm not.

 

[future criminologist]

I don't understand. So...she was taken in the park by the nanny, OR, she might have been accidentally poisoned. which is it? you can't have it both ways - you can't claim that she was taken and still alive AND killed accidentally. are these attorneys retarded? you can't be both alive and dead at the same time!

 

[future criminologist]

They need to leave the DP there on the table, KC Does have A mental Illness regardless how all this goes down BUT just because you have a mental Illness does not mean that you dont no right from wrong. If KC would have done the right thing and just say I cant or I dont want to be a mom anymore and walk away left her with her mom a friend etc. She did not have to do it. The reason she did it because she was MAD at her mom she was being selfish. CMA was only 2 A post Partum depression something would of happened sooner and when you are depressed you dont want to get your a@@ out of bed or even take care of yourself and cindy being a nurse would of seen the signs, I don't by it she did this it was not an accident period....

I agree, there is NO WAY this is PPD. I dont' think this would get past a jury - you would actually have to show some signs of being depressed before the crime is committed, and I don't think partying and stealing your friend's checks show that - sorry, Casey, cross that defense off the list...

 

[future criminologist]

An ex boyfriend once told me, while I was showing him a photo album of me when I was a child, that people do that when they feel guilty about something b/c they want them to see them as innocent as they were when they were a child. That could have been true, b/c I was cheating on him at the time. (!) I know, I was 18 so.....

wow - I hope you broke up with that guy! he sounds more than a little paranoid and/or manipulative...

 

[concentric]

I think all of the PPD, PMS, PMD "post miscarriage", could be said by the defense as undiagnosed and untreated and used as "diminished responsbility" to lower to murder charge to manslaughter, or to avoid the dp.

 

[future criminologist]

Don't mean to get off topic, but when I read Jane's post, I immediately thought of a fairly famous case in Australia, and looked the information up in Wikipedia:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Azaria Chantel Loren Chamberlain (born 11 June 1980 in Mount Isa, Queensland) was a ten-week-old Australian baby who disappeared on the night of 17 August 1980 on a camping trip to Uluru with her family.
Her parents, Lindy and Michael Chamberlain, reported that she had been taken from their tent by a dingo. An initial inquest, highly critical of the police investigation, supported this assertion. The findings of the inquest were broadcast live on television — a first in Australia. Subsequently, after a further investigation and second inquest, Azaria's mother, Lindy Chamberlain, was tried and convicted of her murder, on 29 October 1982 and sentenced to life imprisonment. Azaria's father, Michael Chamberlain, was convicted as an accessory after the fact and given a suspended sentence.

Maybe JB could add the "dingo defense" to the list.

"Maybe the dingo ate your baybay!" - Elaine from Seinfeld

sorry, I couldn't resist

 

[Lanie]

I haven't commented much on the 30 page memo because I am still trying to wrap my head about what it means.
Question for the legal eagles in here, please. Is this memo something that could be presented in court by the prosecution?
Thanks in advance,
Lanie

 

[Macushla]

"The death penalty-qualified attorney, who is helping Jose Baez, said he wanted Casey to be evaluated by a nationally known psychologist who was involved in the Unabomber and the Elizabeth Smart cases. The attorney thinks Casey is mentally ill, but we’re told Baez rejected his suggestion."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17914492/detail.html

This doesn't even make sense!!

I said this earlier in this thread, but I think Casey does not want to go with a mental illness defense. She KNOWS there is nothing wrong with her While the DP attorney might think this is their best shot at a defense, Baez has to go with what his client wants - and I doubt Casey will ever consent to any type of defense that will make her look bad. She will want to stick to the Nanny took her story - until she is convicted. THEN she will come up with another story, just before sentencing. I believe this is the only way we might ever know where Caylee is.

As to the 'leak' of the document - this is one time Cindy can not blame LE for 'leaking things' - it HAD to come from someone on the defense side of the table. Why that someone leaked it, that I don't know, wish I knew the logic behind it. Can't help wondering what Cindy is thinking and saying right now.

 

[butwhatif?]

Don't mean to get off topic, but when I read Jane's post, I immediately thought of a fairly famous case in Australia, and looked the information up in Wikipedia:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Azaria Chantel Loren Chamberlain (born 11 June 1980 in Mount Isa, Queensland) was a ten-week-old Australian baby who disappeared on the night of 17 August 1980 on a camping trip to Uluru with her family.
Her parents, Lindy and Michael Chamberlain, reported that she had been taken from their tent by a dingo. An initial inquest, highly critical of the police investigation, supported this assertion. The findings of the inquest were broadcast live on television — a first in Australia. Subsequently, after a further investigation and second inquest, Azaria's mother, Lindy Chamberlain, was tried and convicted of her murder, on 29 October 1982 and sentenced to life imprisonment. Azaria's father, Michael Chamberlain, was convicted as an accessory after the fact and given a suspended sentence.

Maybe JB could add the "dingo defense" to the list.

LOL...why would they do that when they could use the 'a squirrel stole my baby' defence?

 

[Pink Panther]

Documents have been released!

 

[Anais]

ABSOLUTELY!!!! I, too, had a child at 17, no support system, etc. etc. I HAD to go back to my REAL job 2 weeks after my child was born, 70 hours a week, just to barely scrape by and pay the rent and bills. I have no sympathy for this woman whatsoever.
Lanie

I am/was a very young mom myself also. Although I did have the support of the father. Regardless I was very young, had no immediate family help or support as we had been estranged. In any case I not only worked, but went to school and with the father's help made a good life for our son!

I have no compassion or empathy for Casey Anthony. She is shameless and IMO a sociopath who is always looking for excuses for her behavior. There is no excusing this and I truly do not believe that she was insane per se. However I can see in her a remarkable similarity to my sister in law who suffered from Bipolar depression. Which in essence means that whether or not she intended to kill her daughter she knew that what she was doing was dead wrong!

I am not surprised by this leak from the defense team and feel it is just trying to garner sympathy from a prospective jury pool. Who knows? I am disgusted with the entire situation and feel it is about time for the A's to quit this confounded charade already!!!!

 

[Celt1997]

Bold is mine.

And Caylee singing it back to him. :cry:
If I were a juror that would cost Casey her life. Good thing I'm not.

I think all of us would have some sort of adverse reaction to that video. But, that's why they tell the Jurors you should not try someone based on emotion, but the facts. Most of us on here have become emotionally invested in this case, so none of us would probably make for a fair jury.

On a side note, I also think it is pretty low and dirty when prosecutors & defense attorneys use emotional "tricks" on the jury, but that's just MHO.

 

[Lanie]

I said this earlier in this thread, but I think Casey does not want to go with a mental illness defense. She KNOWS there is nothing wrong with her While the DP attorney might think this is their best shot at a defense, Baez has to go with what his client wants - and I doubt Casey will ever consent to any type of defense that will make her look bad. She will want to stick to the Nanny took her story - until she is convicted. THEN she will come up with another story, just before sentencing. I believe this is the only way we might ever know where Caylee is.

As to the 'leak' of the document - this is one time Cindy can not blame LE for 'leaking things' - it HAD to come from someone on the defense side of the table. Why that someone leaked it, that I don't know, wish I knew the logic behind it. Can't help wondering what Cindy is thinking and saying right now.

Here is my theory, based on the prosecution NOT being able to use this memo at trial.
I agree with everything you say about Casey not consenting to insanity defense, etc. IMO, the leak of the document was to get public opinion to take back to Casey to use as a tool to convince her to give up the location of Caylee's body. If they can show enough people saying they think that would be a good bargaining chip for Casey to use to get the DP off the table, maybe they can persuade her to come clean before the body is found by someone else, and the clock is ticking on that.
I think this was a desperate act by the defense to try to save a client who is probably fighting them every step of the way.
Lanie

 

[concentric]

I think all of the PPD, PMS, PMD "post miscarriage", could be said by the defense as undiagnosed and untreated and used as "diminished responsbility" to lower to murder charge to manslaughter, or to avoid the dp.

or, could be documented--We don't know what her medical records are yet.